Gory Revelations Stun Iraqi's

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 06/01/03 | Anna Badhken

[Stuckathome]

Baghdad -- Like so many Iraqis these days, Chedha al Awsi feels betrayed and confused.

On a computer screen before her, poorly recorded footage shows half a dozen laughing soldiers of Saddam Hussein's elite Republican Guard as they beat and kick civilian men kneeling on the ground, their hands bound behind their backs.

[Stuckathome]

I was surprised to read this in the traditionally very liberal San Francisco Chronicle, on the front page no less. Usually this paper gives accounts of how the war may have been bad for the Iraqi people. Very chilling to read and further adds to the other numerous posts here at freep about the true Iraqi regime.

[finnman69]

But the libs still say it was an illegal war...

[Imal]

Excuse me, but I thought this article was going to be about a speech to the Iraqis by this man:

"I want the Iraqi people to know how tirelessly and fiercely I opposed the war and the removal of Saddam Hussein!"

[7 x 77]

"It's very important now that LIBERALS come to grips with Iraqi history, with their own history. It is true that a lot of LIBERALS believed the propaganda of this government. It's easy to deny the past. To build false local histories of what happened."

[bart99]

Stunning. Perhaps freedom of the press in Iraq will help them, and the US action, forever. We can hope.

[aposiopetic]

I agree. And at the risk of having to don an asbestos suit, this seems a fitting occasion to call to mind that one of the most prominent voices raised in 1989-1990 against normalization of contacts with China in the wake of the Tianmen Square massacre was none other than Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).

I'm not sure what happened in the meantime.

[blackdog]

Unjust war. Republican lies. Just the Shrub CYA'n.

Now who's on American Idol this week?

[ikka]

With a MILLION people dead, how could the small nation of Iraq not know. My guess is that the person in the article chose not to know; just like 50% of Americans chose not to know that Clinton and Gore were frauds.

[ffusco]

The SF Chron is just kicking the NYT when its down.

[Texas Eagle]

....then the screen shows soldiers tying dynamite to the chests of their prisoners and blowing them up, one by one. Pieces of human flesh and bone fly in all directions. Al Awsi jolts in her seat, her face distorted by a grimace of pain.

Nyaaaaaaah. So what? Where are the weapons of mass destruction ! ! ! ? ? ?

This war was unjustified! Put Saddam back in power!

[Rennes Templar]

Great Post. Eventually GWB will be recognized as nothing less than heroic to have gone against much world opinion to thwart Saddam. Even if the issue of mass weapons is not resolved, the terror fomenting cancer of the Hussein regime, if it had not been stopped, would have eventually become a threat to all things civilized, both in the Middle East and abroad. Bush has done nothing less than take a first giant step toward make the world a more civilized place.

[azhenfud]

"...just like 50% of Americans chose not to know that Clinton and Gore were frauds."

Oh no, they weren't frauds - they were VERY ORIGINAL....

[SouthernFreebird]

And al Awsi has heard a theory, which she admits she somewhat believes, that Hussein was an agent of the CIA -- "because why would a true Iraqi want to kill his own people?"

They will always look for a way to blame us.....idjits every last one of 'em.

[7 x 77]

With a MILLION people dead, how could the small nation of Iraq not know. My guess is that the person in the article chose not to know; just like 50% of Americans chose not to know that Clinton and Gore were frauds.

I was wondering this too since some of the embedded reporters were saying that it seemed every family had a member who was killed or vanished. Maybe it depends on what part of the country or society your talking to.

[seenenuf]

Please.. would someone sell me one of those $3 CD's to send to the NYT!

[BagCamAddict]

And whether you're a Sunni or a Kurd or a Shi'ite. Big difference in your perspective. Like the difference between being a German or a Jew in WW2 Germany. Plus, if you have propaganda shoved in your face, 24/7, for 30 years, and NO outside information that contradicts that propaganda, you have no reason to believe anything different.

The earth was flat for a long time, despite scientific proof and eye witnesses to the fact that it was round. Many people would refuse to believe something as silly as a round earth, after all, everyone knows it is flat.

All Iraqi Sunnis know that Saddam was a good man, right?

[Imal]

With a MILLION people dead, how could the small nation of Iraq not know. My guess is that the person in the article chose not to know; just like 50% of Americans chose not to know that Clinton and Gore were frauds.

This assertion may be far more poignant than any of us know.

We must never underestimate the incredible power that we human beings have to deceive ourselves.

[LouD]

I feel deceived

Yeah, right. That's what the Germans said when Patton marched them through Dachau.

[the_Watchman]

I agree. And at the risk of having to don an asbestos suit, this seems a fitting occasion to call to mind that one of the most prominent voices raised in 1989-1990 against normalization of contacts with China in the wake of the Tianmen Square massacre was none other than Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).

I'm not sure what happened in the meantime.

May I suggest, totally off the wall, that she recognized the economic advantages of normalization with China and did not want these advantages to occur under a Republican president? This cynical guess could be bolstered if we could determine when she changed her tune.

[tomahawk]

Tom Daschle: "I'm deeply saddened [that this has been discovered]."