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CIA confirms WMD - Fox news alert (reported at DU)
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Posted on 05/28/2003 9:02:39 AM PDT by epluribus_2

can anyone confirm this? Their heads are exploding.


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second hand but could be hugh.
1 posted on 05/28/2003 9:02:39 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: epluribus_2
BTTT for confirmation
2 posted on 05/28/2003 9:04:09 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: epluribus_2
could be hugh

maybe even series

3 posted on 05/28/2003 9:04:30 AM PDT by putupon (nothing more to read here, move along)
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To: epluribus_2
It doesn't take an awful lot to send that crowd into a snot-slinging hissy fit. Me, I'll just wait for the "they planted it" stories to start popping up - that will constitute better confirmation than any CIA report. BTT.
4 posted on 05/28/2003 9:04:37 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: epluribus_2
The DUmpster divers watch Fox? Who knew?
5 posted on 05/28/2003 9:04:48 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: epluribus_2
Sorry, I was in the shower. Is there and update?
6 posted on 05/28/2003 9:04:53 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: epluribus_2
What are they saying at DU?
I can't go there it makes my hair fall out.
7 posted on 05/28/2003 9:04:58 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: epluribus_2
If this is true, most of the left wing media will need to be put on suicide watch and the 9 dwarfs who want to replace Bush might need to go into hiding
8 posted on 05/28/2003 9:05:09 AM PDT by MJY1288 ("4" more in "04")
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To: epluribus_2
I always figured that if there were WMD it would be reported right before the meeting with pooty poot and the G8.

pooty gave blair a hard time with the "Where is YOUR WMD?" line.

9 posted on 05/28/2003 9:05:46 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: epluribus_2
I just heard one of the Fox News Babes read at the top of the hour news the mobile labs that were found are indeed WMD. Probably parts of a BIGGER WMD program.
10 posted on 05/28/2003 9:06:08 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: MJY1288
Sooooooo tired of this...hope it is finally true.
11 posted on 05/28/2003 9:06:38 AM PDT by 50sDad (Close the door! Are we cooling the entire neighborhood? And clean your room!)
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To: Billthedrill
"snot-slinging hissy fit"

ROFLMAO, That's one hell of a visual

12 posted on 05/28/2003 9:06:50 AM PDT by MJY1288 ("4" more in "04")
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To: Sir Gawain
The DUmpster divers watch Fox? Who knew?

Well, I have switched to MSNBC and CNN a few times lately since Fox is on a "24-hour Scott Peterson news" kick.

13 posted on 05/28/2003 9:07:00 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: netmilsmom
What are they saying at DU? I can't go there it makes my hair fall out.

Thanks! I haven't had my sinuses flushed with an efervescent beverage in a long time :p

pretty funny.

14 posted on 05/28/2003 9:08:12 AM PDT by Connservative
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To: bigfootbob
I thought those mobile labs had been "scrubbed" of any traces, then buried.

Anything a tad more concrete? I was really looking forward to watching a couple of the liberal squacking heads around here where I work, explode.

15 posted on 05/28/2003 9:09:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: bigfootbob

CIA confident Iraq trailer used for bio-weapons

No traces of biological warfare (BW) agents have been detected in a specially equipped tractor-trailer found in Iraq but US intelligence has concluded that production of biological warfare agents was its "only consistent logical purpose," the CIA has said.

Analysis of samples taken from the trailer, which was seized in April in northern Iraq, was "negative for five standard BW agents, including Bacillus anthracis, and for growth media for those agents," the Central Intelligence Agency report said.

"We suspect that the Iraqis thoroughly decontaminated the vehicle to remove evidence of BW agent production," the report said.

"Despite the lack of confirmatory samples, we nevertheless are confident that this trailer is a mobile BW production plant because of the source's description, equipment, and design," it said.

The report noted that an Iraqi source had alerted US intelligence before this year's war that led to the downfall of Saddam Hussein to the existence of similar mobile facilities for making biological warfare agents.

Experts who examined the trailer were unable to identify any legitimate industrial use that would justify the expense of a mobile production capacity, the report said.

"We have investigated what other industrial processes may require such equipment - a fermentor, refrigeration, and a gas capture system - and agree with the experts that BW agent production is the only consistent, logical purpose for these vehicles," it said.


16 posted on 05/28/2003 9:09:51 AM PDT by michigander
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To: Constitution Day
I've switched from Fox many times in the past few weeks because of the Peterson insanity also.

I hope the news about WMD's is true and we don't have to listen to the lib nonsense anymore.
17 posted on 05/28/2003 9:09:54 AM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: epluribus_2
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=3&u=/ap/20030528/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_weapons_hunt

By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Two trucks found in northern Iraq (news - web sites) filled with laboratory equipment are the strongest evidence yet that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) had a biological weapons program, the CIA (news - web sites) and Defense Intelligence Agency said in a report Wednesday.

No actual prohibited weapons were found in the trucks, but intelligence officials say the vehicles fit the description of a mobile biological weapons laboratory received from an Iraqi source. That source, a chemical engineer who claims to have managed one of the mobile labs, identified photographs of the captured trailers, the new intelligence report says.

The report comes as U.S. military forces in Iraq search for proof of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs that the Bush administration said was justification for the war that overthrew Saddam's regime last month.

Earlier this month, Pentagon (news - web sites) officials said the discovery of the first trailer — seized at a checkpoint near the northern Iraqi city of Mosul on April 19 — could prove Iraq had active programs to produce weapons of mass destruction.

It and a second lab found in May have already been inspected by U.S. and British technical experts and a group of scientists from coalition countries. Another team of international experts arrived in Iraq Saturday to inspect the evidence and will likely need a few more days, U.S. officials in Iraq said Monday.

While the new report describes the trailers "as the strongest evidence to date that Iraq was hiding a biological warfare program," U.S. officials have not reported finding any proof that Iraq had such weapons ready for use.

The report says the first truck was captured by Kurdish allies in late April and turned over to U.S. forces. The second, though already looted, was found by U.S. forces in early May at the al-Kindi Research, Testing, Development and Engineering facility in Mosul.

Both contained equipment, such as fermenters, that could be used to make biological weapons, the report says.

"Examination of the trailers reveals that all of the equipment is permanently installed and interconnected, creating an ingeniously simple, self-contained bioprocessing system," the report says. "The trailers probably are part of a two- or possibly three-trailer unit. Both trailers we have found probably are designed to produce BW agent in unconcentrated liquid slurry."

A third trailer, found in Baghdad, is a mobile toxicology laboratory from the 1980s, the report says. It could have legitimate uses or be part of a weapons program.

The report dismisses alternate explanations for the trailers.

Captured Iraqi scientists have claimed the vehicles were for producing hydrogen for weather balloons that would support conventional artillery. The report acknowledges the trailers could be used to make hydrogen but says it would be inefficient compared to widely available commercial hydrogen generation systems.

"BW (Biological weapon) agent production is the only consistent, logical purpose for these vehicles," the report says.

The reports about the trailers, based largely on the Iraqi engineer's description, were a key component of Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites)'s February 2003 presentation to the United Nations (news - web sites) regarding Iraq's alleged weapons programs.

On the Net:

CIA/DIA report: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/iraqi_mobile_plants/index.html
18 posted on 05/28/2003 9:10:31 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: epluribus_2
Maybe a on joke on 'DU'?
19 posted on 05/28/2003 9:10:47 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Constitution Day
My God, enough already!!! As soon as I was reading your post, FNC started in on a LP murder trial update with Geraldo.

Aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuugggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!

I can't take it any more!!!!

20 posted on 05/28/2003 9:11:09 AM PDT by In God I trust
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To: epluribus_2
This is what should be making dumbocrats heads explode. My in-laws, lifelong democrat voters and union members, LOVE George W Bush. They LOVE his tough stance on terrorism and rogue nations. They LOVED (especially my f-i-l who served on an aircraft carrier) the carrier landing. And they LOVE FNC!

Last week they were in town where my m-i-l had hip replacement surgery. The hospital she was in only had one cable news channel, CNN. They couldn't wait to get home and back to FNC.

If these folks can have thier minds changed by a great President, so can many others!

21 posted on 05/28/2003 9:12:55 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: epluribus_2
What do they think WMD stands for anyway? You could be overestimating their abilities. W mugs dems? Women Make Donuts?

There's no telling what they think. I've read some of their posts and send them to my sis who teaches abnormal psych.
23 posted on 05/28/2003 9:14:31 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Using pretentious arcane words to buttress your argument means you don't have one)
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To: Mears; In God I trust
Re: Peterson insanity -
It has infected FR just as badly as FNC, too.

But to get back on topic, I also hope this news is true.
If they don't find it, the Dems will beat GWB over the head with that issue in '04.

24 posted on 05/28/2003 9:16:21 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: finnman69
No actual prohibited weapons were found in the trucks, but intelligence officials say the vehicles fit the description of a mobile biological weapons laboratory received from an Iraqi source.

Good enough for us. Not enough to be anything new though. Just confirmation of what we had first suspected.

25 posted on 05/28/2003 9:17:41 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: finnman69; sheltonmac
No actual prohibited weapons were found in the trucks, but intelligence officials say the vehicles fit the description of a mobile biological weapons laboratory received from an Iraqi source

Same ol' same ol', just repackaging it in a different form. No WMDs. Of course these are the same 'officials' that stated WMDs were so aplenty in Iraq that they were practically lying in the streets because of no room for storage. Everyone knows how thousands of tons of chemical weapons can go missing overnight. Who'd thunk it? Anyway, no time now, we've got to start listening for the all informative 'story' the administration is going to use for their next foray into nation building, finding the WMDs, freeing the peoples of Iraq, making the world safe for democracy, whatever the neocons say the new reason is

26 posted on 05/28/2003 9:18:23 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: In God I trust
As soon as I was reading your post, FNC started in on a LP murder trial update with Geraldo

The old Bait and Switch trick.

27 posted on 05/28/2003 9:18:45 AM PDT by McGruff (Trust but verify.)
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To: OpusatFR
As a repressive Islamic country, it is doubtful that there are any Women Making Donuts (WMD) there. If in fact such women are found, we can be sure that they were trained by the US military (in conjunction with Krispy Kreme).
28 posted on 05/28/2003 9:20:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: epluribus_2
ok; read more; no joke. . .but no doubt will be received by the Libs as 'no real evidence'.

Of course, any sane person knows by now, the Iraquis MO on this; but would be nice to find a few giant loaded missiles buried in the sand somehwere. . .

29 posted on 05/28/2003 9:21:16 AM PDT by cricket
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To: In God I trust
My God, enough already!!!

In other news, little Elian started shaving today...

30 posted on 05/28/2003 9:21:26 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: OpusatFR
What do they think WMD stands for anyway?

Weebles Must Die?
Weird Mouse Disease?
When Moose Divorce?
Water My Dandelions?
Wankers Make Democrats?

31 posted on 05/28/2003 9:21:41 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: billbears
So, let's say you were banned from owning twinkies. I raid your house looking for twinkies. I find an open twinkies wrapper, I find a reciept for a twinkie, I find money in a twinkie fund, and all your neighbors tell me that they saw you eat a twinkie yesterday.

Would I have to conclude that I was wrong in thinking that you violated the twinkie ban since I did not find an actual twinkie?

32 posted on 05/28/2003 9:22:40 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Billthedrill
snot-slinging hissy fit

Love the phrasing.

33 posted on 05/28/2003 9:24:01 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Sir Gawain
The DUmpster divers watch Fox?

Yes, but they have to be heavily medicated and monitored.

34 posted on 05/28/2003 9:25:44 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Rodney King
Would I have to conclude that I was wrong in thinking that you violated the twinkie ban since I did not find an actual twinkie?

If you are a lawyer or a democrat, then yes. If you are a clear thinking individual, then no.

35 posted on 05/28/2003 9:26:53 AM PDT by Snowy (My golden retriever can lick your honor student)
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To: tbpiper
they watch fox so they know which advertisers to boycott.
36 posted on 05/28/2003 9:29:26 AM PDT by smadurski
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To: Rodney King
Let's say you gave me that twinkie originally, heck you helped get me hooked on twinkies because one of my neighbors was bothering you at the time. Would you have to conclude and admit you were somewhat at fault to my neighbors and the town for getting me hooked on twinkies? Or do you take the high road and deny all culpability for some, not all, of the twinkies being in my house in the first place

However if all your argument entails is that you found a twinkie wrapper in my house and not any twinkie at all, I'd say you need to get the heck out of my house and quit leaving your garbage everywhere

37 posted on 05/28/2003 9:30:12 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: netmilsmom; Constitution Day
I've been contemplating whether or not I should create an account with DU so I can torment them to death.
That would be fu-u-u-un. *grins evily*
38 posted on 05/28/2003 9:30:19 AM PDT by 4mycountry (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid.)
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To: epluribus_2
Man, that Democratic Underground place - it could be fun to troll...
39 posted on 05/28/2003 9:30:26 AM PDT by IvanT
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To: epluribus_2
Like Dennis Miller said: " Anyone who thinks Iraq doesn't have WMD needs to go take a sip out of the Tigris."
40 posted on 05/28/2003 9:31:25 AM PDT by AdA$tra (Tagline maintenance in progress......)
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To: this_ol_patriot
Wankers Make Democrats?

Too, too funny!

41 posted on 05/28/2003 9:31:38 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: Constitution Day
Well, I have switched to MSNBC and CNN a few times lately since Fox is on a "24-hour Scott Peterson news" kick.

Same goes for me. Gritta is obsessed, not that I could stomach her before Peterson. We've been enjoying Scarborough. Last night they aired the news conference from Atlanta on the capture of the alledged Louisiana serial killer. Just for fun we switched back over to Fox to see what they were up to and sure enough, there they were, interviewing Laci's family or something.

42 posted on 05/28/2003 9:31:48 AM PDT by mommybain (not Walmart greeter material)
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To: putupon
Where's the cheese?
43 posted on 05/28/2003 9:31:57 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: MJY1288
""snot-slinging hissy fit"

A perfect description of bull riding, or what democrats do when republicans have the upper hand. Great line.
44 posted on 05/28/2003 9:32:52 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: epluribus_2
Took em long enough to finally plant the stuff, which I support, btw. geez. get it together, spooks.
45 posted on 05/28/2003 9:32:58 AM PDT by galt-jw (guess what? you've been had!)
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To: 4mycountry
I did that once a long time ago.
After I got summarily banned, I felt like I needed to take a bath with a wire brush and some Clorox.

Nasty, nasty people. They're dead to me now.

46 posted on 05/28/2003 9:33:07 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Mears
I hope the news about WMD's is true and we don't have to listen to the lib nonsense anymore.

I hate to say it but NOTHING will dispell LIBERALS from spouting nonsense, BUSH planted the WMD, didn't you know that?LOL!

47 posted on 05/28/2003 9:33:25 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: michigander
"We have investigated what other industrial processes may require such equipment - a fermentor, refrigeration, and a gas capture system - and agree with the experts that BW agent production is the only consistent, logical purpose for these vehicles," it said

Nonsense, it's an Iraqi mobile homebrew beer factory ( /sarcasm...)

LQ, married to homebrew-obsessed DH

48 posted on 05/28/2003 9:33:30 AM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: 4mycountry
it's really easy to get banned from DU.
49 posted on 05/28/2003 9:35:11 AM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: LizardQueen
MMMMM... Homebrew... got a couple of cases of American Pale Ale in ferment as we speak...
50 posted on 05/28/2003 9:35:23 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (It's not nice to fool Mr. Rumsfeld!)
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