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CBS Documentary.
Posted on 05/20/2003 8:54:43 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: longtermmemmory
Thank you for this scrupulously documented response; historical scholarship regarding the origins of Hitler's National Socialism is improving dramatically. Many of the politically correct taboos inhibiting this type of historical research are gradually being removed with the passge of time.
In my own view National Socialism and Hitler's personal philosophies are organically related to the anti-rational aspects of German Romanticism with Wagner, Nietchze, Rilke and Pagan German Mythology informing parts of Hitler's "Weltanschaung".
The TV docudrama of course never touches on these apsects of Hitler's philosophy instead choosing to present Hitler as a demagogue who sprang ex nihilo from German culture. The recent movies "Max" and "The Empty Mirror" did a much better job of tracing these deep cultural roots that underlay Hitler's philosophy.
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posted on
05/21/2003 11:41:04 AM PDT
by
ggekko
To: Fred Mertz
history is repeat itself
To: neither-nor
Fuehrer is an acceptable term in India and there is at least one company in India that includes the word Fuehrer. I know from first hand experience. And it's an Indian company run by Indians.
To: follow the money
"history is repeat itself"
And that could be series.
To: montag813
The term was not coined until decades later. That's what I assumed, but Websters says the term started in 1795.
Merriam-Webster: Terrorist
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posted on
05/21/2003 12:33:43 PM PDT
by
TankerKC
(Take the time it takes, so it takes less time.)
To: risk
Comparing them en-masse to Nazis does a disservice for the Republican party's image, and it fails to recognize the complexities of the American political landscape.Amen.
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posted on
05/21/2003 12:41:30 PM PDT
by
TankerKC
(Take the time it takes, so it takes less time.)
To: montag813
You're right!
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posted on
05/21/2003 6:09:48 PM PDT
by
nonliberal
(Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
To: Cathryn Crawford
Actually, I think everyone in the world does this everyday: makes a decision on how to live, what priorities to put first, whether or not they want to have close relationships or if they want to be ultimately powerful. Hitler was not, in my opinion, crazed. He simply made his decision.Well, there's a lot of truth in that, but I don't think that there's necessarily a conflict between having power and having close relationships except where the power, like Hitler's, is dependent upon fear, terror and paranoia. In fact, power that is dependent upon respect, trust and persuasion can actually require close relationships.
And there's another wrinkle to the exercise of power based upon ruthlessness, violence and terror. It's like a one-way street. You can't unwind it; you can't mature, mellow out and retire. There's no way out but death. So, it's no accident that people like this all seem a bit paranoid. LOL
But, yeah, I guess you could say he chose all that. ;-)
To: JIM O
So far as racism is concerned, even anti-semitism, Hitler was a creature of his times.
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posted on
05/21/2003 7:08:17 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
(uks)
To: Scenic Sounds
I would agree that there is a thread between relationships and power; that's why I threw the word ultimate in there. Ultimate power requires and demands ruthlessness. Ultimate power is based in fear and mistrust, rather than in love and respect. I would also agree that ruthlessness, as you say, breeds paranioa - the nature of it requires that will to succeed and live unique to all dictators.
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posted on
05/21/2003 7:12:35 PM PDT
by
Cathryn Crawford
(Kill all the lawyers - except for mine.)
To: ConservativeMan55
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...All the tricks of HITLER's National Socialist Party's to gain control of Germany in the last Century... ...are now being put to use here in this one =
...BLOCK Everything until you get what you want (From tonight's 'HITLER') =
...Today's Texas Legislature (Democrats walk-out) and U.S. Senate (Democrats block Judges).
Pray and Prepare.
We are living in interesting times.
May America survive the Clintons in the
new Mini-Series...
Hitler Act II
To: ConservativeMan55
Hitler then started using tactics which can be compared to modern day liberals. When his party could not get their way in the Reichstag (The Congress) they would walk out. Sound familiar?
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posted on
05/22/2003 12:55:22 AM PDT
by
lowbridge
(Rob: I have a five letter word: F-R-E-E-P. Freep. Jerry: Freep? What's that? -Dick Van Dyke Show)
To: neither-nor; risk
I don't know the origin of the swastika, but it was used as a reverse punch design on Greek coins 2500 years ago.
To: ConservativeMan55
A key aspect which very few realize about Hitler...he wheeled and dealed power...all based on a small school in a remote section of Austria where his only real talent was art. He never had any other influence in life other than the beer garden years in Munich and his buddies who pumped him up and made him feel good. Pretty good considering that if the art school had just accepted him at 18....he never would have done anything other than paint pretty pictures of women and landscapes.
To: kinghorse
Fuehrer is an acceptable term in India and there is at least one company in India that includes the word Fuehrer. I know from first hand experience. And it's an Indian company run by Indians. I didnt think so (sarcasm off). I live in India and havent come across the term in usage, or in the name of a company. Could you tell me where/how it is being used( again: I want to know, genuinely).
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