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Homosexual Groups Admit ‘10%’ Figure Is Wrong
Traditional Values Coalition ^ | Friday, May 09 @ 15:27:45 CDT | Traditional Values Coalition

Posted on 05/12/2003 9:23:01 AM PDT by Remedy

Summary: In fighting to overturn a Texas law against homosexual sodomy, homosexual activists have quietly admitted that their claim that 10% of the population is homosexual is wrong.

In what will go down as one of the most underreported stories of the year, homosexual activists fighting against a sodomy law in Texas have admitted in a legal brief that 10% of the population is not homosexual.

The 10% claim has been used for more than 20 years to push the homosexual agenda—and to recruit public school children into the homosexual deathstyle.

The admission that the 10% figure is wrong appeared in an obscure footnote in a legal brief filed by a coalition of homosexual groups in the Lawrence v. Texas case now before the Supreme Court.

The coalition consisted of 31 groups including: Human Rights Campaign, National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, Parents, Families, & Friends of Lesbians and Gays, The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, and the People for the Way Foundation.

In a footnote on page 16 of this homosexual coalition’s legal brief, they admit that "2.8% percent of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."

Our thanks to the Family Research Council for pointing out this footnote and exposing the fact that homosexuals are finally telling the truth about their numbers. To read FRC’s analysis of this controversy, click here: Family Research Council: CultureFacts: Culture Facts - April 4, 2003

Read TVC’s Homosexual Urban Legend, published last year on this subject: Exposed: The Myth That "10% Are Homosexual".


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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OTHER Briefs filed at the United States Supreme Court - John G. Lawrence, et al. v. Texas, No. 02-102, Alabama, South Carolina, and Utah (State Attorneys General) American Center for Law and JusticeJay Alan Sekulow, Counsel of Record American Family AssociationStephen M. Crampton, Counsel of Record Center for Arizona PolicyThis brief refutes the errors expressed in the opposing amicus submitted by the American Psychology Association. Len L. Munsil, Counsel of Record Center for Law and Justice InternationalPat Monaghan, Counsel of Record Center for the Original Intent of the ConstitutionMichael P. Farris, Counsel of Record Concerned Women for AmericaJanet M. LaRue, Counsel of Record Family Research Council & Focus on the FamilyRobert P. George, Counsel of Record Legislators, State of TexasKelly Shackelford, Counsel of Record Liberty CounselMathew D. Staver, Counsel of Record Pro Family Law CenterRichard Ackerman, Counsel of Record Texas Eagle Forum; Daughters of Liberty Republican Women of Houston, Texas; Spirit of Freedom Republican Women's ClubTeresa Stanton Collett, Counsel for Amici Curiae Texas Physicians Resource Council, Christian Medical and Dental Association, Catholic Medical Association Glen Lavy, Counsel of Record United Families International
1 posted on 05/12/2003 9:23:01 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
and I am not buying the 2.8% claim either- nature does not make that many mistakes in a species (one out of 50???) and survive
2 posted on 05/12/2003 9:24:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (I'm formidable with that)
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To: Remedy
I had bought the 10% figure. Didn't really matter to me since I am not against gays per se, just their politics. But I feel like an idiot for believing the figure in the first place, of COURSE they would make statistics up to support their cause...
3 posted on 05/12/2003 9:28:46 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: Mr. K
Take out the bisexuals and my guess is that the number of "pure" homosexuals would drop below 1%.
4 posted on 05/12/2003 9:28:57 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Mr. K
What Is "A Homosexual" Kinsey's published data reveal that homosexuals are much more willing to "try it" with an animal, a child, a man, many women, or for that matter "something completely different."

Family Research Report - May-Jun 2002 Omnisexual -Webster's dictionary4 defines 'homosexual' by "sexual attraction toward [or relations with] a person of the same sex" (p. 464). Yet as both the FRI and the Kinsey studies demonstrate, sexual flexibility rather than a fixed interest in or exclusive performance with members of the same sex is characteristic of 'homosexuals.' Almost all 'homosexuals,' in fact, manage to have sex with the opposite sex.

The term [homosexual]certainly does not seem to fit ex-homosexuals, many of whom express no further interest in sex with their sex. Further, the sexual flexibility that the great majority of 'homosexuals' exhibit over their lifetimes does not fit the 'compulsive' nuances associated with the term 'homosexual' either

5 posted on 05/12/2003 9:29:48 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
BUMP!
6 posted on 05/12/2003 9:30:45 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government.)
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To: Remedy
They're a well-organized and vociferous bunch, no matter their true number.
7 posted on 05/12/2003 9:30:52 AM PDT by onyx
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To: Paradox
  1. Homosexual Propaganda Campaign Based On Hitler's 'Big Lie' Technique
  2. Gay Rights Strategies Involve Conscious Deception And Wholesale Manipulation of Public Opinion
  3. New Book Guides Journalists in Reporting of Homosexual Issues
  4. Selling Homosexuality To America
  5. Homosexual minority dominates mainstream America

8 posted on 05/12/2003 9:31:00 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Mr. K
Homosexual = 1.75% Lesbian = 1.56% This has been the number that statisticians have been coming up for years. In 1998, I think, some researchers decided to find out where the 10% figure came from and it turns out that it was Alfred Kinsey. What they discovered was that Kinsey had used prison populations for his samples, rather than the general populace, as he had claimed.

I'll leave it to the student to determine the impact of Kinsey's report on American society for the last 50 years. It's disgusting.

9 posted on 05/12/2003 9:31:44 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore
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To: Mr. K
"2.8% percent of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."

Of the 2.8% (admittedly without ANY data to back up my guess) I would venture to guess that a majority would say they were bi-sexual, thus the true homosexual community would be a fraction of the 2.8%.

10 posted on 05/12/2003 9:31:56 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Remedy
Conservatives have been saying this for years. Glad to see we finally "outed" the rats (pun intended).

Bump!

:) ttt

11 posted on 05/12/2003 9:36:04 AM PDT by detsaoT (Socialism Is Bankruptcy - just ask Kalifornia)
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To: robertpaulsen
"Take out the bisexuals and my guess is that the number of "pure" homosexuals would drop below 1%."

Bisexuals are probably not homosexuals at all. Just whores... They would "do it" with a rock pile if they thought there was a snake in it.
12 posted on 05/12/2003 9:37:10 AM PDT by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Hodar; robertpaulsen
Take out the bisexuals and my guess is that the number of "pure" homosexuals would drop below 1%

I would venture to guess that a majority would say they were bi-sexual, thus the true homosexual community would be a fraction of the 2.8%

Nope. 2.8% of the population "identifies themselves" as "homosexual".

13 posted on 05/12/2003 9:37:43 AM PDT by JoshGray
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To: Hodar
The blurred lines between bi & homo are intentional as purists in that community can't exist.
14 posted on 05/12/2003 9:38:06 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: Remedy
I have a gay Uncle that teaches at William & Mary. He is writing a book "Weathering Change: Gays and Lesbians, Christian Conservatives, and Everyday Hostilities."

The more I learn about how the Homosexual agenda is ruining this country the more what he does ticks me off. Guess I need to send him some truth about what is wrong with things and lies his piers are putting forward. This article may help.

15 posted on 05/12/2003 9:38:26 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: TexanToTheCore
Isn't there a documentary coming out soon on his (Kinsey's)life and work?
16 posted on 05/12/2003 9:39:15 AM PDT by my4kidsdad
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To: Remedy
Surveying The Arts, one could get the impression that about 87.4% are homosexual.

Dan
17 posted on 05/12/2003 9:40:55 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: JoshGray
Nope. 2.8% of the population "identifies themselves" as "homosexual".

From the article, again "2.8% percent of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."

18 posted on 05/12/2003 9:41:39 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: JoshGray
The Family Research Institute
1. Newsweek, 2/15/93, p. 46: "For years, the gay-rights movement has sought safety in numbers. Its leaders have long claimed that homosexuals constitute 10 percent of the American population. They cited Alfred Kinsey, who interviewed thousands of men and women for landmark studies on human sexuality in the 1940s and 1950s. Activists seized on the double digits to strengthen their political message–that millions of citizens are excluded from the mainstream by anti-gay discrimination. Policymakers and the press (including NEWSWEEK) adopted the estimate–despite protests from skeptical conservatives–citing it time and again.
2. Fortune, 1991, p. 42: "Kinsey’s classic 1948 studies suggest that about 10% of American adults are homosexual, a figure that more recent surveys support."
3. Washington Times, 11/19/91, p. A3: "10 percent of American men are homosexual and 5 percent of women are lesbian."
4. Professional journals like the Family Therapy Networker, 1991: "from Kinsey’s historic study in the 1940s to the present, surveys consistently show that 10 percent of the population is either gay or lesbian–that’s 25 million people."
5. Even the head of the American Psychological Association, Bryant Welch, testified on 2/6/89 that the APA had found "in fact all the research supported the conclusion that homosexuality... is a sexual orientation found consistently in about ten percent of the male population and approximately 5 percent of the female population.... research showed that across different historical eras and in totally different cultures the incidence of homosexuality remained the same irrespective of public attitudes and prohibitions."

19 posted on 05/12/2003 9:41:53 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Hodar
You're right; my mistake.
20 posted on 05/12/2003 9:42:53 AM PDT by JoshGray
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