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DFU COMMENTARY ON THE AWOL ISSUE
dfu | 5-4-03 | dfu

Posted on 05/04/2003 7:39:38 PM PDT by doug from upland

There have been some discussions lately by leftist pukes who supported a psychopath but apparently loathe a decent man. The discussion have been about an "AWOL" issue. I thought it is about time that I clarify the AWOL issue.

Actually, it is a series of AWOL issues. When a Bush hater wants to discuss it, you may choose any of the following to help englighten him:

1. Bill Clinton's father, whomever that may have been in the back seat of the that '43 Ford with his bar-hopping mom, died before he was born. He was raised by a stepfather who apparently abused the mom and kids. In fact, a weapon was actually discharged in the home during an argument. His stepfather was no role model, and his mom taught him to lie. So it was during his childhood that Bill's conscience went AWOL.

2. As a young man, Bill was supposed to report to the induction center because, although he has lied about it, he really did receive a draft notice. He got help from RAT insiders who intervened on his behalf, and he was AWOL when called up to report for his physical. Actually, he really had nothing to fear. Lacking both gonads and a spine, he certainly would have been classified 4F.

3. Bill was supposed to report for duty at the U of Arkansas and join the ROTC when he came back from England. At least that is what he promised an honorable man and hero, Col. Eugene Holmes who was a survivor of Bataan. Bill, of course, was AWOL when he was to report for the ROTC. He thought it was really funny that he lied to Col. Holmes. He played a trick on him and finally admitted that he really loathed the military. When the draft lottery came through, Bill received a number high enough that he was never in jeopardy of being drafted. So, he submitted himself to the draft. Pretty clever, huh?

4. When Bill's class in Oxford was graduating, he was AWOL. That was not his choice, of course. He had been kicked out of the university and the country for raping Eileen Wellstone whom he had met at a pub. It would have been devastating publicity for a Rhodes Scholar to be charged with rape, so he was simply quietly removed from the country.

5. When it was time to provide armored support in Mogadishu, Bill was AWOL. We know the result. 19 Rangers dead; 76 wounded. Some of the wounded refused to have their picture taken with him at Walter Reed Hospital, not wanting to bring disgrace on their uniform.

6. When it was time to respond to the first attack on the World Trade Center, Bill was AWOL. Islamist terror was of no interest to him.

7. When it was time to respond to the bombings of our foreign embassies, Bill was AWOL. What was he supposed to do about it, be a commander in chief or something?

8. When it came time to respond to the bombing of the USS COLE, Bill was AWOL. Their lives meant little to him. After all, they were the people he told Col. Holmes that he loathed. He proved it for 8 years.

9. When it was time to be discussing Mideast peace in the Rose Garden with foreign leaders, Bill was temporarily AWOL. He was busy playing with an intern, cigar, and a sink.

10. When he was supposed to be upholding his oath and providing for the defense of this nation, for eight years he was AWOL. Islamist terrorists were allowed to raise money, gather weapons, and plan without fear.

So, RAT b*stards, if you want to talk about AWOL, bring it on.


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1 posted on 05/04/2003 7:39:39 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Good stuff...this is going on my favorites list.
2 posted on 05/04/2003 7:47:57 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Winning isn't everything, but losing is nothing.)
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To: doug from upland
I hope the RAT b*stards are monitoring FR as they often do, and post this for RAT commentary.
3 posted on 05/04/2003 7:48:36 PM PDT by Sender
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Oh, yes. The NOW gang was AWOL when it was time to confront an elected official for his vicious biting and raping of a victim. His wife was also AWOL when it came to standing up for the victim.
4 posted on 05/04/2003 7:48:56 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: doug from upland
Thanks Doug. Bookmarked for future reference!!
5 posted on 05/04/2003 7:49:26 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: doug from upland
bookmark
6 posted on 05/04/2003 7:50:26 PM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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To: doug from upland
Good work, Doug
7 posted on 05/04/2003 7:50:51 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: doug from upland
So, RAT b*stards, if you want to talk about AWOL, bring it on.

Your posts are usually insightfull and backed with strong facts. But,Doug, with all due respect, this does not serve as a defense of George Bush. It merely confirms that which we already know, about Clinton.

8 posted on 05/04/2003 7:52:42 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (one of these days I will come up with something clever to put here)
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To: doug from upland
RATS, I was hoping that this was really about clearing up the AWOL issue raised about GW. My thread seeking information to rebut letters to the editor in our local rag about this issue was pulled by FR. I am so tired of those letters, but have nothing tangible to refute them with and do not know how factual the AWOL issue is.
9 posted on 05/04/2003 7:57:43 PM PDT by waRNmother.armyboots
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To: Michael.SF.
This was one more chance for me to engage in some of my favorite recreational activity --- sticking it to the left. I didn't intend it to be a defense of President Bush.

I will say this much, however. Those who are wealthy get breaks that others don't. It is a fact of life and is done on both sides of the political aisle. I admire John Kennedy, who came from wealth, for his heroic service in WWII. Did Bush and others get into the Guard ahead of others? Certainly. It was the way things were done and how many things are still done. Could he have been cut some slack and allowed to leave the service early? Perhaps. Did he get an honorable discharge? Yes. Has he proven, like Clinton, that he loathes the military? Absolutely not. He loves them and they love and respect him. That is what drives the Bush haters crazy. He is a great commander in chief. No matter how hard they try to attack this president, they cannot revive the legacy of a failed commander in chief who was responsible for Mogadishu and really did show for 8 long years his loathing for the warriors who protect this nation's freedom. It is a non-issue that they think is a big issue.

10 posted on 05/04/2003 8:04:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
I hope No. 10 explains some of it. He received an honorable discharge, and he may have been excused early from service. Let them delude themselves that they have an issue. It is a non-starter. America recognizes him as a great commander in chief. Clinton could never have done what Bush is doing. They are as jealous as Maureen Dowd is of Catherine Zeta Jones every night as she lies alone in her bed and cries. Bush's success bothers them every single day.
11 posted on 05/04/2003 8:11:18 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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This is not an issue and we should not allow them to make it an issue. The agenda is going to set by this commander in chief, not by them.
12 posted on 05/04/2003 8:18:59 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: doug from upland
good posting,great.
13 posted on 05/04/2003 9:36:06 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: waRNmother.armyboots
Check this out: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030411.html it's by someone who is obviously not a Bush fan, and concludes by saying,"Bush's enemies say all this proves he was a cowardly deserter. Nonsense. He was a pampered rich kid who took advantage. Why wasn't he called on it in a serious way during the 2000 election? Probably because Democrats figured they'd get Clinton's draft-dodging thing thrown back at them. Not that it matters. If history judges Bush harshly--and it probably will--it won't be for screwing up as a young smart aleck, but for getting us into this damn fool war."
14 posted on 05/04/2003 10:51:01 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (404 tagline not found)
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To: doug from upland
I didn't intend it to be a defense of President Bush.

I think that was what I was hoping for, as I have never seen an adequate defense of the AWOL accusation.

Personally, I have never criticized anyone for attempting to do anything legal to avoid Vietnam. I was 18 in 1971, and I thanked God that my lottery number was a high one. But I had four friends in the neighborhood serve at the time. Three in Nam, one stateside. All three survived, thankfully.

I agree with you basically. But I would prefer to have more knowledge on the missing time frame.

BTW, I find John "did you know I served in Nam?" Kerry, with his Medal tossing for convenience, to be contemptable, with his new found pride.

15 posted on 05/04/2003 11:09:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (one of these days I will come up with something clever to put here)
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To: Michael.SF.
I have only heard a little about Kerry, but he apparently didn't toss his own medals. What I know about Bush is that he probably got favorable treatment as sons of rich powerful men do. He might have made some kind of deal for early release, as those with influence can. He received an honorable discharge. It is really funny for the RATS to be going after this when you consider what Clinton did. They had no problems with his real draft-dodging and lying to Col. Holmes and to his real hatred of the military. They want to lessen Bush's stature as a successful commander in chief compared to their POS.
16 posted on 05/04/2003 11:48:07 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: Keith in Iowa
A deserter and an "arrangement" are different things. I think the issue ends with his receipt of an honorable discharge.
17 posted on 05/04/2003 11:50:22 PM PDT by doug from upland (my dogs ran from the room when they heard Hillary shrieking on the radio)
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To: doug from upland
>> I think the issue ends with his receipt of an honorable discharge.

So do I - but the RatBastards won't let it drop - so we need to keep hitting them between the eyes with what you wrote above.
18 posted on 05/04/2003 11:53:06 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (404 tagline not found)
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