STOPP Planned Parenthood

American Life League, STOPP International, Ryan Report ^ | 04.10.03 | Ed Szymkowiak

[Coleus]

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[fatima]

Thanks Coleus,Great people here,go Jim.I am still here and working hard.

[rebel85]

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[litany_of_lies]

STOPP subscribes to the truth that the sexual drive in human beings was created by God to fulfill two interrelated purposes – to bring a close union between a married man and woman engaging in intimate sexual behavior (the “unitive” purpose of sex) and to provide a means to propagate the race (the “procreative” purpose of sex).  We further understand that, to be true to the Natural Law that guides all human action, any act of sexual intercourse must be done within marriage and be open to both the unitive and procreative purposes.  Thus, we object to Planned Parenthood facilitating sexual intercourse outside of marriage.  We also object to Planned Parenthood distributing products, such as those listed above, which artificially attempt to render procreation impossible.

By all means, STOPP, you should keep Planned Parenthood from being in the abortion and contaceptive businesses, as long as they receive a penny of government money.

But for crying out loud, why did you have to bring in the Natural Law argument (which, BTW, I totally agree with)? You just handed PP the ability to label you extremists, and to marginalize you. Many Americans don't buy into "sex-only-in-marriage" (they're wrong but that's not the point), and VERY FEW buy into the "Natural Law procreative-unitive argument" against contraception (again I AGREE with the argument, but again that not the point).

Is STOPP really advocating an ultimate LEGISLATIVE MANDATE of Natural Law? If I were PP, I'd sure say so, and most Americans would automatically view STOPP as a bunch of busybody religious zealots bent on enforcing their view of the world (which again I think is correct) on everyone else.

STOPP should limit its agenda to:

- Defunding all government money to PP (if individuals are nutty enough to contribute to them, you have to let them do so).
- Overturning Roe v. Wade.

[fatima]

Thank you for the input,this group has much info and has helped many people.They could use your ideas too.

[litany_of_lies]

Thanks. I just e-mailed my comment to the National Director.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[fatima]

:)))

[fatima]

Maybe I'll bump it ,maybe I wait.

[dion]

I wish I could understand why conservatives continue to pursue the abortion issue. Ironically, it is the republican version of the gun control argument and suffers from the same disregard for reality. If you make guns illegal, you will not stop people from having guns, it will just force people to break the law, by the same token, making abortion illegal will not stop abortion, just force people to break the law. Yet conservatives continue to hold on to this ludicrous ideal, just as liberals continue to hold on to the ideal of gun control, regardless of its unreasonableness.

I have always considered conservatives to be the more rational party, yet their clinging to this issue makes me wonder if they won't end up becoming as disassociated with reality as the liberals. I realize there is a "religious" basis for this stance, but God gave humans free will, why can't the conservatives?

The party's extremist stance on this issue is what keeps the moderates away from the Republican party and the only people who benefit are the Democrats.

[exDemMom]

If you make guns illegal, you will not stop people from having guns, it will just force people to break the law, by the same token, making abortion illegal will not stop abortion, just force people to break the law.

You might as well argue that since making the murder of the post-born illegal has not stopped the practice, it might as well be made legal. Before abortion was legalized, very few abortions actually took place. Read some of the things early legal abortion proponents have to say on the subject--wish I could remember the name, but I remember one guy saying that the numbers both on illegal abortions and women dying from the same were grossly exaggerated in order to sway public opinion.

As far as the "extremist" pro-life views driving away "moderate" Republicans, guess what triggered my move away from the Democrat party? If you guess "their extremist view on abortion," you've got it. Check the polls: abortion does NOT have majority support. Sure, the headlines on the polls will often claim that, but when you dig in and look at the numbers, you'll find that the poll's authors have lumped in people supporting abortion in the case of rape, fetal abnormality, or immediate danger to the mother's life (which together account for less than 10% of abortions) with those who support abortion as a form of birth control, presumably because the authors didn't like the actual results of the poll.

Furthermore, the only "religious" reason I can see for people to be against abortion is that murder IS one of the ten commandments, and thus is forbidden. It is science, not the bible, that tells us that the pre-born is a living human being. I have great faith in the accuracy of science.

[Diago]

Some great info here! Time to defund these creeps.

[mollynme]

Good answer. Being against the murder of a pre-born human is not extremist nor necessarily religious. An agnostic nurse acquaintance of mine has pointed both of those facts out to me.

[1john2 3and4]

a glance at teenwire (which i did not know about) is enough! these people are truly evil, makes me angry, and sad at the same time.....they are just creating more consumers of their evil service....

[dion]

I am sure that Republicans would like to believe that "abortion" has brought people over to their side. I find that very hard to believe. While I have never had
and abortion, nor do I ever plan on having one, I believe I should have that option. Although, I do think a few might be willing to support the end of partial birth abortion (I know I would).

As another poster mentioned I also think that trying ban contraceptives is absurd. How can you expect people to just keep having children they can't afford?? If you truly want to be able to stop abortion, then you should strongly support contraceptives, because that is the only way abortions are going to be prevented. And saying that people should stop having sex (inside or outside of marriage) is laughable and unrealistic.

[Coleus]

Judy Brown is a practicing Catholic and will not deviate from her faith. And since it's her organization, that is the way she runs it, in concert with the Holy See. I know some of her employees who are evangelical Christians and have no problem with that and knew what the organization was about before they started employment. The primary goal of the organization is to stop Abortion and with the STOPP, a sub organization, is to stop America's biggest abortion provider. Let's face it, their (PP) target group is primaily young High School and College-aged women, not the ordinary American housewife.

[Coleus]

I wish I could understand why conservatives continue to pursue the abortion issue.>>>

For one thing it's the platform of the republican party.
http://www.rnc.org/GOPInfo/Platform/2000platform4.htm

Secondly, when abortion was illegal, there were no where near 1.2 million abortions per year!
If you make it illegal as it was for many years, the rates will drop fast and people will be much more cautious to prevent pregnancies.