The next battle for Pfc. Jessica Lynch

WND ^ | April 10, 2003 | Jane Chastain

[battlegearboat]

Aw Jeeze, not this **** again!

[Poohbah]

Ping, need your graphic :o)

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[peeve23]

The only way to win this argument is to argue that women should be able to do anything that they can do equally as well or better than men.

If they can do the buttons on a Patriot Missile as well, then they should be permitted to.

[muir_redwoods]

I've got an argument that the leftist feminists can't beat. Women don't belong in combat because;

"Human Beings have somehow managed to keep the female half of humanity out of the direct effects of war throughout our history. All efforts should be directed toward getting the male half out of combat instead of getting the female half in."

I've tried this argument and they absolutely cannot respond. It's fun

[honeygrl]

Yeah I'm tired of this debate as well.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Get used to it buddy.

[annyokie]

This one?

[Poohbah]

That's the one! :o)

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

I think everybody misses the point. The point, it seems to me, of putting women in combat roles is to make everyone queasy about ever putting the military into combat. Of course necessity overcomes naivete every time.

[mom-7]

I do hope that this young woman has the good sense to tell the press and everyone else to get lost, cause they will use and abuse her. It's not worth it.

[429CJ]

I'm with you Tailgunner, women on or near the front line is a sign of a sick nation.

[elfman2]

"Aw Jeeze, not this **** again!"

I'm curious. Is this something that you two are in favor of (women in combat) and don't want to see it discussed?

I've been here several years and haven't seen too many threads on it. The first time I discussed it was a week ago on a thread regarding torture of prisoners, and a woman responded to my one anti women in combat post by accusing me of "hijacking" the thread. Being that half the threads on FR had greater divergences somewhere in them from the original topic, her reaction looked out of proportion, indicating a concern that her values might come under attack here.

From my experience, your opposition to this being discussed seems out of proportion as well. Is that the case with you two? Are you very much in favor of women being thoroughly integrated into the services?

[daddypatriot]

I was in the military when the only women were WACS assigned to clerical duties. They were wonderful and far better than men to deal with typing, file keeping, record keeping, etc., etc. My son was in the military 30 years later when women were assigned to the same duties as men. He told me they were forever falling out on marches with 40 pound packs. There is something wrong here.

[usmcobra]

Can someone explain to me just how the ambush of the 507th is directly related to the dangers of women in Combat?

By all accounts, this unit was unescorted by any infantry support.

By all accounts, this incident should never have happened.

By all accounts instead of crying in fear and hiding helplessly behind their male counterparts, The female soldiers in this fire fight fought back as well as any other soldier there.

What we have here is a rear echelon unit thrown unexpectantly thrown into a vicious ambush, poorly armed and unsupported by even a squad of grunts, fighting back valiantly, and only being captured after every bit of ammo they had on hand had been expended. If anything this incident has nothing to do with women in combat but everything to do with the protection of support units in a convoy.

The fact that there were women attached to this unit has nothing to do with the way all the soldiers in this ambush fought back, they would have fought back even if it had been an all male unit and given the weapons and ammo they had on hand the results would have been the same, if anything it might have been worse.

[elfman2]

Please see #14

[annyokie]

Women, other than doctors and nurses do not belong in combat. I have been flamed enough about my position on this to be in the burn unit.

[Blue Screen of Death]

Rosie O'Donnal on the battlefield could provide cover for half a platoon.

[honeygrl]

"I'm curious. Is this something that you two are in favor of (women in combat) and don't want to see it discussed?"

I'm sortof on the fence about it. I don't think double standards are fair (women getting into positions meeting easier requirements) but I don't like seeing all the generalizations like "no woman can do blah blah" or "all women are blah blah." The reason the debate has grown old to me is that it usually gets too heated and rational thought flies out the window.