Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Conservative Republican and Navy Vet Got Screwed by California GOP
Bakersfield Californian ^ | March 7, 2003 | Vic Pollard

Posted on 03/07/2003 12:51:39 PM PST by Saundra Duffy

Dean Gardner, conservative Republican & Navy Vet, "lost" this Assembly race by 265 votes! The investigation of voter fraud is on-going. Meanwhile, it turns out that the CA GOP made a point of screwing Dean Gardner. I have been freepin' the "winner" Nicole Parra every chance I get. And to add insult to injury, Nicole Parra has been appointed to Chair and very important Veterans Affairs Committee. I AM SOOOO PISSED, you have no idea!! Here's the article.

Kern GOP kept cash out of local race

By VIC POLLARD, Californian Sacramento Bureau e-mail: vpollard@bakersfield.com

Friday March 07, 2003, 12:12:32 PM

Editor's note: This story was revised March 7, 2003, to correct the name of the organization Robert Stern is president of.

With a local GOP Assembly candidate desperate for money in the days before the Nov. 5 election, the Kern County Republican Central Committee was funneling more than $135,000 in stealth contributions to three legislative candidates in other parts of the state.

And experts say Kern's GOP group may have been violating campaign finance laws in the way it handled the money.

A county Republican official disputed that, saying he does not believe the law was violated.

But Republican businessman Dean Gardner of Bakersfield, who believes he would have won the 30th Assembly district race if he had had just $10,000 more to spend, was upset at news about the controversial funding scheme.

"It is distressing to find that this kind of money came into Kern County and none of it went to the Gardner campaign," he said.

The county committee did give Gardner $1,000, but sent the bulk of the cash outside the county.

Gardner was outspent by as much as 10-to-1 by Democrat Nicole Parra, who eked out a victory by fewer than 300 votes.

The money the local GOP gave out was part of nearly $1 million donated by Woodland Hills-based 21st Century Insurance Group that was channeled by Republican Party officials to candidates in key races in a manner that hid the source of the funds.

The company donated the money one day after the deadline for reporting contributions before the election. Thus it was able to wait until Jan. 31 to report them.

While the party organizations reported making donations to the candidates before the election, there was no indication of the actual source of the money. Donations to candidates in the weeks before an election must be reported in 24 hours, but major donations to political committees do not have to be reported immediately.

That fact allowed the GOP to receive the last-minute infusion of cash and quickly distribute it without having to report it came from the insurance company.

On Oct. 22, 21st Century donated a total of $950,000 to the state Republican Party and more than a dozen other party groups, mostly county central committees in rural areas like Kern. Had it made the contributions one day earlier, the company would have had to file a report showing the source of the money before the election.

The Kern committee got $150,000, second only to the California Republican Party's $200,000.

Like most of the other groups, the Kern GOP made major contributions to races "targeted" by party leaders as the most important in the state.

It paid campaign expenses totalling nearly $67,000 for Jeff Denham, who defeated former Democratic Assemblyman Rusty Areias in a Modesto-area Senate race. It made a cash contribution of $38,000 to Shirley Horton, who won an Assembly seat in Chula Vista, and paid campaign expenses of nearly $31,000 for Guy Houston, the winner in a race in the Livermore area.

The other committees made major contributions to those and a handful of other key races around the state, all probably playing a role in the GOP's gain of two seats in the Assembly and one in the state Senate in the election.

A 21st Century spokeswoman, Fiona Hutton, said GOP legislative leaders requested donations from the company.

The firm's support for Republicans is no surprise -- it has made no secret of the fact that it is still angry over the passage of Democratic legislation that gave victims of the 1994 Northridge earthquake an additional year to file damage claims.

State Republican Party spokesman Rob Stutzman made no apologies for the stealth nature of the contributions, saying officials wanted to hide the contributions from Democrats, who might have responded in kind.

"A political party exists to win elections, and it will seek every advantage it can under the law," Stutzman said.

But Democrats say the GOP may not have stayed within the law, particularly the Kern County committee.

Under Proposition 34, the voter-approved campaign finance law, donors giving to a political committee can earmark no more than $25,000 for donations directly to campaigns. The rest of the donor's money must be used only for general party expenses.

Tony Miller, a former acting Secretary of State and campaign reform activist who examined the GOP reports, said they showed the Kern committee made nearly $137,000 in last-minute campaign donations.

It reported "income" of about $192,000 from contributors after the Oct. 21 deadline for pre-election reports.

Without the $150,000 from 21st Century, the local committee had just about $42,000 available from other sources. It could legally use $25,000 of the insurance company money. That, combined with the $42,000 made about $67,000 available for direct contributions.

But that is well short of the $137,000 it gave away.

"If you look at the reports filed," Miller said, "the committee didn't have enough cash to make the contributions it made without dipping into that money from 21st Century."

Miller and other critics said the campaign contribution scheme raised questions about whether it violated money-laundering provisions of Proposition 34 and whether 21st Century or GOP officials were guilty of illegally "earmarking" contributions beyond the limit.

"It seems to me that they came as close to the line as you can," said Robert Stern, president of the Center for Governmental Studies watchdog group. "I'm sure there are potential violations."

The campaign law is enforced by the state Fair Political Practices Commission, but officials there would not comment on whether the agency would look into the matter. That is not unusual -- the commission's staff rarely, if ever, comments on pending or potential investigations.

Only one top Kern GOP official, Central Committee Treasurer Matthew Brady, could be reached for comment Thursday.

Others, including farmer Charles Mitchell, who was the central committee chairman last year, Assemblyman Kevin McCarthy, and political consultant Mark Abernathy did not respond to requests for comment.

Brady said the decisions to accept the 21st Century money and make the contributions were made by the central committee's executive committee, which included him, Mitchell and a few others.

But he said it was also done in consultation with Abernathy, McCarthy and others.

He insisted no one from the state party or anywhere else directed the committee to make donations to certain candidates, which would have been illegal, experts say.

"We were looking at races, and the state party puts out a list of races they are concentrating on," he said. "You know these things."

He said he and party officials did "the best we could" in working under the campaign law that went into effect for the first time last year.

"But if somebody wants to come and take another look at it, we'll work with them," he said.

He said he feels "terrible" about the fact that little of the money went to Gardner, whom he considers a friend.

"I wish Dean Gardner had been in a targeted race," he said.

Gardner blamed Assembly Republican Leader Dave Cox more than the Kern central committee for his shutout from party money. Cox played a major strategic role in last year's Assembly races.

"He just doesn't like me," Gardner said. "I'm a Republican but I'm an independent. ... He wants people around him who will do what he says."


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: gardner; parra; stateassembly
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-59 next last
The CA GOP leaders are too busy trying to screw each other and the democraps are just having a field day.
1 posted on 03/07/2003 12:51:39 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan
BUMP for exposure
2 posted on 03/07/2003 12:52:46 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Previous post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/814512/posts
3 posted on 03/07/2003 12:54:30 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: sweetliberty
Another link to previous thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/824547/posts
4 posted on 03/07/2003 12:57:55 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Another previously posted thread on the subject of Parra and her voter fraud: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/799537/posts
5 posted on 03/07/2003 12:59:10 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Stuck in the back again GOP Blues Got Ya down?

Think recall gray davis :-)

6 posted on 03/07/2003 1:00:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... We live in interesting times.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
This reminds me of another incident many years ago. When I lived in Tucson, an ex-pow ran against the ultra-liberal Mo Udall. He came with just a few votes of beating Udall. I seem to remember that it was the closest race Udall had ever been in. It turns out the local GOP did nothing to help this guy.
7 posted on 03/07/2003 1:05:58 PM PST by saminfl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
"The county committee did give Gardner $1,000, but sent the bulk of the cash outside the county."

Unconscionable!

8 posted on 03/07/2003 1:08:07 PM PST by bigfootbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bigfootbob; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; ...
Saundra has been busy fighting this on her own. She has called for support and gotten none. We've all played a part in letting this happen.
9 posted on 03/07/2003 1:12:22 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
10 posted on 03/07/2003 1:39:07 PM PST by E.G.C.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Friends of Gerald Parsky?
11 posted on 03/07/2003 1:43:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cicero
Bingo.
12 posted on 03/07/2003 1:45:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (With friends like these, who needs friends?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
You might consider yourself lucky in that we rarely have any Republican candidates on the ballot here in LA.
13 posted on 03/07/2003 1:50:28 PM PST by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
It's kinda self evident that the Republican party in our state is a disaster. There is a reason why we are the only Socialist state in the Union. This reminded me of when Bob Dornan lost his re-election bid and he kept saying the 'RATS cheated, but the repubs wouldn't investigate. The party needs to make big changes in how it runs things if they ever want to win in this state again.
14 posted on 03/07/2003 1:50:51 PM PST by fly_so_free (Dazed and confused Catholic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: saminfl
Deja vu all over again? Sheeeeesh. Thanks for your post. For victory & freedom!!!
15 posted on 03/07/2003 1:58:47 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: farmfriend
Thanks, Sis, from the bottom of my heart. For victory & freedom!!!
16 posted on 03/07/2003 1:59:30 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Cicero
Friends of Gerald Parsky?

Probably - not to mention Bill Thomas!

17 posted on 03/07/2003 2:00:21 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: onedoug
You might consider yourself lucky in that we rarely have any Republican candidates on the ballot here in LA.

Good point. LOL! Sorry for you poor lost souls down there in LA-LA land. Thanks, you made me feel a little better. LOL!

18 posted on 03/07/2003 2:01:36 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Man, no wonder CA is screwed!! The CA GOP is getting too cannibalistic. Truly sad.
19 posted on 03/07/2003 3:20:38 PM PST by GOP_Raider (OAKLAND RAIDERS AFC CHAMPIONS!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: saminfl
"This reminds me of another incident many years ago. When I lived in Tucson, an ex-pow ran against the ultra-liberal Mo Udall. He came with just a few votes of beating Udall. I seem to remember that it was the closest race Udall had ever been in. It turns out the local GOP did nothing to help this guy."

I believe you're talking about the 1978 contest. Udall's profile after he ran for President in 1976 hurt him badly locally when they realized he was a fairly solid leftist, and his margins started shrinking dramatically. State legislator Tom Richey challenged him after Udall's margin was poor against a withdrawn candidate in 1976 (who still got 40%). The 2nd in the late '70s was trending GOP then. Richey was not the choice of the local GOP and ran an insurgent campaign (though outspent 2-to-1 by Udall), and held Udall to his closest race ever, 53-45% (with only a switch of 4,456 votes, Richey would've prevailed). Richey might've pulled it out had he not ran ads saying that Udall specifically referred to himself as a Socialist, which was charged as misleading. The GOP nominated someone else that had strong party support in 1980, but Udall had time to reconnect with his constituents and pulled back up to a 58-40% win (even as Reagan won the district) and never had difficulty again (especially after he was given a more Democrat-leaning district in 1982) until Parkinson's forced his retirement in 1991.

20 posted on 03/07/2003 3:26:15 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: GOP_Raider
My son in Castro Valley is a major Raiders fan! Yahoo! But sheeeesh these CA Republicans just keep shooting themselves in the foot. It's so discouraging. Dean Gardner is such a great guy. If only he had had a little encouragement from the GOP leaders. Sheeeesh.
21 posted on 03/07/2003 3:51:17 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj
Thanks for the history lesson, pal. For victory & freedom!!!
22 posted on 03/07/2003 3:52:03 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Is this surprising? In Santa Clara County the elected Republicans endorse Democrats in other races and refuse the requests of other Republicans for endorsements.
23 posted on 03/07/2003 3:57:17 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
keep up the good work Saundra!

What can we do about the CA GOP? Most of them aren't even RINOs.

I have gotten to know the woman in my town who is on the central committee. The conservatives have made some inroads onto it. But we have two major elected Republicans in the area, Jim Cuneen and Don Gage. Other GOPers in the area asked them to endorse them and they didn't. Cuneen said he ``had to endorse'' the Dems to get things done in the state legislature. Thanks for nothing!

24 posted on 03/07/2003 4:02:55 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
"With a local GOP Assembly candidate desperate for money in the days before the Nov. 5 election, the Kern County Republican Central Committee was funneling more than $135,000 in stealth contributions to three legislative candidates in other parts of the state."

Offer an amendment to the GOP by-laws that would require a vote of PCO's concerning campaign funds dispersal scheme. We have County PCO's vote how we spend our meager candidate funds during the election cycles. Helps to stop the dirty politics. It's good for workers morale too.

25 posted on 03/07/2003 4:04:25 PM PST by bigfootbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
You are the best!!! Wooo hooooo!!!

Sending warm encouragement from Florida.

Anything we can do from down here?
26 posted on 03/07/2003 4:37:27 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Leave the monkeys alone.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
bttt
27 posted on 03/07/2003 4:42:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj
Actually, I was wrong about the margin. It was the 1976 race with the GOP candidate Laird Gutterson, an ex-pow. I thought the race was closer than that. I do remember that Gutterson did not get much support from the local GOP.
28 posted on 03/07/2003 4:42:37 PM PST by saminfl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
These stories just make me hit my head against the desk..over and over and...

I'm constantly being invited to central committe meetings but you can imagine my hesitance based on these horror stories.

29 posted on 03/07/2003 4:59:37 PM PST by Amerigomag
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: saminfl
"Actually, I was wrong about the margin. It was the 1976 race with the GOP candidate Laird Gutterson, an ex-pow. I thought the race was closer than that. I do remember that Gutterson did not get much support from the local GOP."

Ah, OK. Yes. Gutterson dropped out a few weeks before the election for unclear reasons. I imagine had we won the seat, though, it eventually would've gone 'Rat by the '80s with the increasing Latino presence (now the dreadful Ed Pastor sits in it, albeit in a much differently-configured seat).

30 posted on 03/07/2003 5:07:52 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
"Is this surprising? In Santa Clara County the elected Republicans endorse Democrats in other races and refuse the requests of other Republicans for endorsements."

Gee, that sounds familiar. Here in Nashville we even have none other than former CA Lieutenant-Governor Mike Curb (the last Republican elected to that office way back in '78, who beat the horrid Merv Dymally, now back in the Assembly but senile as hell), but he doesn't even bother to do anything about the moribund party here and the other fundraisers/bigwigs for the GOP just bring out the kneepads to set beside our local 'RAT officeholders and assume the position. Disgraceful.

31 posted on 03/07/2003 5:13:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
Ain't that the truth. Cuneen even subbed for Ron "The Zipper" Gonzalez for one of the two mayoral debates. Useful tool for the leftist swine. And he's only one of many "crossovers".
32 posted on 03/07/2003 7:03:18 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: farmfriend
Let me piss off more Republican sheep.

I firmly believe the Democrats and the Republicans have been holding hands during this administrations term, because of the number of ex-Clinton bureaucrats currently in the Bush administration. The Bush/Republican immigration open border policy is another firm indicater.

33 posted on 03/07/2003 7:35:49 PM PST by B4Ranch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Dem bump!!
34 posted on 03/07/2003 8:28:06 PM PST by Golden Gate
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #35 Removed by Moderator

To: Saundra Duffy; madfly; Tancredo Fan
Latino Reconquista invasion.

Nicole's father is quoted "Those communities that have a large number of Latinos will now get their fair share if we get a good counting," said Pete Parra, Kern County 5th District supervisor.

Is it any wonder GOP'ers can do little other that raise the issue of 300 illegal votes with little follow-through? Maybe confronting the issue at its roots would help.

36 posted on 03/08/2003 2:49:06 AM PST by flamefront (Take the oil money from the islamofascists! And don't give it to the UN.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: farmfriend
BS! We all did not play a part in this! You sound like a liberal blaming conservatives for a thug getting shot by another thug because we believe in the second amendment.

This is the first time that most of us, including me have heard about this.

This is a Kern county problem. If they can't settle it, then it should be turned over to the feds for investigation.

Every one of these Jerks need to be exposed. Just let the LA Slimes, the Jercury and the BEE get involved. They love any scandal involving republicans.
37 posted on 03/08/2003 5:28:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave
BS! We all did not play a part in this! You sound like a liberal blaming conservatives for a thug getting shot by another thug because we believe in the second amendment.

I meant Freepers not conservatives. You did not get flagged to the threads because you do not live in Sacramento area. I used my NorCal Chapter list. Check out the thread that Saundra has linked above. It should be one that would make this clear. If not, I link to others.

38 posted on 03/08/2003 8:12:04 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
In Santa Clara County the elected Republicans endorse Democrats in other races and refuse the requests of other Republicans for endorsements.

A disgrace! No wonder the state was so easily taken over by pro abortion zealots - with the help of so-called Republicans. This just stinks to High Heaven.

39 posted on 03/08/2003 8:45:18 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
Cuneen said he ``had to endorse'' the Dems to get things done in the state legislature.

B.S.!! I think you can be thrown off a Central Committee for endorsing democraps. Nothing is going to change unless we start demanding accountability. God help us. For victory & freedom!!!

40 posted on 03/08/2003 8:48:45 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: MonroeDNA
Anything we can do from down here?

PRAY!!!!

41 posted on 03/08/2003 8:51:00 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Amerigomag
Maybe we should stop banging our own heads against a wall and start kicking GOP butt, holding them accountable. Thanks for your post, freeper pal. For victory & freedom!!!
42 posted on 03/08/2003 8:52:38 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj
Seems like your state and our state do have something in common - dirty filthy disgusting cannabilistic Republicans. Ack!!!!!!!!!!
43 posted on 03/08/2003 8:54:22 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: B4Ranch
I firmly believe the Democrats and the Republicans have been holding hands during this administrations term, because of the number of ex-Clinton bureaucrats currently in the Bush administration.

Maybe that's why the NIH recently shut down discussion of the abortion-breast cancer link. They're in bed with the democrat abortion industry.

44 posted on 03/08/2003 8:56:23 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Dark Templar
Blame Brulte, Cox and Parsky for this.

Add Trice Harvey and the Kern County Central Committee leadership. There's plenty of blame to go around.

45 posted on 03/08/2003 8:58:40 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: flamefront
If only Dean Gardner could now get GOP support, he could sue to have the election overturned. There's ample evidence. But you can see the dilemma. The Republicans in charge in this state have other fish to fry - building their own empires and egos. It's just so sad AND FRUSTRATING!!!
46 posted on 03/08/2003 9:01:42 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: flamefront
Truth be told, the Republicans in charge of everything in California HATE conservative values. Dean Gardner would have voted pro-gun and pro-life and pro everything we hold near and dear. Nicole Parra will vote the way the democraps tell her to vote. Figures.
47 posted on 03/08/2003 9:03:16 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave; farmfriend
Just let the LA Slimes, the Jercury and the BEE get involved. They love any scandal involving republicans.

Farmfriend, who is a dear friend, was just trying to say that yours truly has been going after Nicole Parra pretty much solo. As for the media, they have enjoyed kissing Parra butt up one side and down the other. I doubt now they will expose the voter fraud. You're right about them joyfully exposing Republican dirt, though. Anyhoo, I'm gonna keep pounding away at Nicole Parra until she RESIGNS or is REMOVED. I said the same thing about Gary "O.J" Condit and he's now toast. LET'S ROLL! For victory & freedom!!!

48 posted on 03/08/2003 9:07:49 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Good luck.

In these local county battles, it is best for the locals to get the involvement.

It would be interesting to see if the LA Slimes or the BEEs would investigate this story and post their findings.
49 posted on 03/08/2003 9:13:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Saundra Duffy
Way to go!
50 posted on 03/08/2003 9:16:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The voices of the 30s are echoing through 2003 - Alistair Cooke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-59 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson