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The Simpsons -- Who turned America's best TV show into a cartoon?
MSN.com and Slate ^ | 2/13/2003 | Chris Suellentrop

Posted on 02/16/2003 7:20:22 AM PST by ex-Texan

The Simpsons -- Who turned America's best TV show into a cartoon?

By Chris Suellentrop

At some point during its 14-year run, The Simpsons turned into one of the best sitcoms on television—and that's not a compliment. At one time, to call The Simpsons the best show on Fox would have been a vast understatement; to say it was the best sitcom on television would have been inadequate; and to describe it as the greatest TV show in history would (and still does) minimize its importance by limiting its cultural impact to the small screen. Who knows when it happened—maybe it was when Homer visited the leprechaun jockeys in Season 11, or when he was raped by a panda in Season 12—but for several years, watching The Simpsons chase Ozzie & Harriet's record for the longest-running sitcom has been like watching the late-career Pete Rose: There's still greatness there, and you get to see a home run now and then, but mostly it's a halo of reflected glory.

The hype surrounding this Sunday's 300th Simpsons episode (actually the 302nd because Fox isn't counting two holiday "specials") has underscored the show's decline. To celebrate the milestone, Entertainment Weekly picked the Top 25 episodes in Simpsons history: Twenty-four of them come from 1997 or before, meaning that only one comes from the past five seasons (which, not coincidentally, is the time period from which EW selected its "Worst Episode Ever"). Similarly, USA Today published a top-10 list written by the fan who runs the best Simpsons site on the Web. He picked nine shows from 1993 and before, and the other was from 1997. The newspaper also asked Simpsons staff members to select their 15 favorite moments and episodes, and only one person (Al Jean, the show's executive producer) chose something that happened within the past five years. Even as fans, critics, and staff members rejoice in the show's amazing longevity, they all agree: The past five or six seasons just haven't been up to snuff.

Who's to blame for this state of events? Some of the die-hard fans who populate the news group alt.tv.simpsons have settled on a "lone gunman" theory—that one man single-handedly brought down TV's Camelot. One problem: They don't agree on who's hiding in the book depository. Many fans finger Mike Scully, who served as executive producer for Seasons 9 through 12 (generally considered the show's nadir). Others target writer Ian Maxtone-Graham. Scully and Maxtone-Graham, both of whom joined the show after it had already been on the air for several seasons, are cited as evidence that The Simpsons lost touch with what made it popular in the beginning—Matt Groening's and James L. Brooks' conception of an animated TV family that was more realistic than the live-action Huxtables and Keatons and Seavers who populated 1980s television. Unlike other TV families, for example, the Simpsons would go to church, have money problems, and watch television.

But under Scully's tenure, The Simpsons became, well, a cartoon. In A.O. Scott's Slate "Assessment" of Matt Groening, he wrote that Groening is "committed to using cartoons as a way of addressing reality." But in recent years, The Simpsons has become an inversion of this. The show now uses reality as a way of addressing itself, a cartoon. This past Sunday's episode featured funny references to Spongebob Squarepants, the WNBA, Ken Burns, Tony Soprano, and Fox programming, but the Simpsons themselves, and the rest of the Springfield populace, have become empty vessels for one-liners and sight gags, just like the characters who inhabit other sitcoms. (Think Chandler Bing.)

The Simpsons no longer marks the elevation of the sitcom formula to its highest form. These days it's closer to It's Garry Shandling's Show—a very good, self-conscious parody of a sitcom (and itself). Episodes that once would have ended with Homer and Marge bicycling into the sunset (perhaps while Bart gagged in the background) now end with Homer blowing a tranquilizer dart into Marge's neck. The show's still funny, but it hasn't been touching in years. Writer Mike Reiss admitted as much to the New York Times Magazine, conceding that "much of the humanity has leached out of the show over the years. … It hurts to watch it, even if I helped do it."

But can you blame one person for it? It would be nice to finger Maxtone-Graham, who gave a jaw-dropping interview to London's Independent in 1998. In it, he admitted to hardly ever watching The Simpsons before he joined the staff in 1995, to brazenly flouting Groening's rules for the show (including saying he "loved" an episode that Groening had his name removed from), and to open disdain for fans, saying, "Go figure! That's why they're on the Internet and we're writing the show." But just because Maxtone-Graham is a jerk (or at the very least, shows colossally bad judgment in front of an interviewer) doesn't mean he's a bad writer. On top of that, a show like The Simpsons is the product of so many creative individuals that it's difficult to blame one person—even Scully, the onetime executive producer—for anything.

So, instead, there are a few conspiracy theories for the show's not-quite demise. Perhaps the problem is too many cooks, as staff legend George Meyer implied to MSNBC.com: "We have more writers now," Meyer said. "In the early days, I think, more of the show, more of the episode was already in the first draft of the script. Now there's more room-writing that goes on, and so I think there's been a kind of homogenization of the scripts. … Certainly, the shows are more jokey than they used to be. But I think they also lack the individual flavor that they had in the early years." Another theory lays the blame on the show's many celebrity guest stars, which have made the show resemble those old Scooby Doo episodes where Sandy Duncan, or Tim Conway and Don Knotts, would show up just for the heck of it. Still others think the problem is the show's brain drain: Long-absent individuals include creators Groening and Brooks, actor Phil Hartman, and writers Al Jean and Mike Reiss (who both left briefly to do The Critic), Greg Daniels (still doing King of the Hill), and Conan O'Brien (who has been linked to the show's decline so many times that Groening once called the theory "one of the most annoying nut posts" on the Internet).

But maybe no one, not even a group of people, can be held responsible. Simpsons determinists lay the blame on unstoppable, abstract forces like time. The show's writers and producers often subscribe to this line when they publicly abase themselves for not living up to the show's high standards. Maxtone-Graham told the Independent, "I think we should pack it in soon and I think we will—we're running out of ideas," and Meyer admitted to MSNBC.com, "We're starting to see some glimmers of the end. … It's certainly getting harder to come up with stories, no question."

An incredible anxiety of influence hovers over Simpsons writers, who realize that they are judged not by the standards of network television, but by the standards of their own show's golden age. By the end of his tenure as executive producer, Scully was making nervous statements to the press like, "Basically, my goal is just not to wreck the show" and, "Yeah, we don't want to be the guys that, you know, sank the ship." Maybe The Simpsons is killing The Simpsons by setting expectations too high. After all, even while you're wincing or groaning at a particularly lame gag, you're hoping that the show will stay on the air longer than Gunsmoke. It's hard to imagine television without The Simpsons. If it sticks around for another 300 episodes, maybe, someday, the wound of the past few seasons will be remembered like the one Maggie administered to Mr. Burns: an accident, and not a fatal one.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: animation; besttvshow; cartoon; cartoons; doh; foxnetwork; mattgroening; satire; simpsons; thesimpsons
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No doubt about it ... People 'who know' -- understand how brilliant The Simpsons truly is -- especially compared to the other tripe on television. I do not agree that the show has declined terribly since the 1997 season. One of the Best Television Shows of all times ... If you don't agee with me, "You can eat my shorts."

I once met one of the Big Boys who developed the show for television. He was in one of favorite Thai take out spots on Wilshire Blvd. in Santa Monica, wearing a leather jacket given only to cast and production staff. I promised never to disclose his name or where he was buying dinner (Simpsons' fans get kinda aggressive don't cha' know?). Nice guy. From Portland, Oregon, too.

1 posted on 02/16/2003 7:20:22 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
Howdy Tex!

J.
2 posted on 02/16/2003 7:23:46 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: ex-Texan
The best writers and creators drifted away over the years. Producing a weekly animation product is a profoundly sophisticated and laborious challenge. It burns people out. Look how many segment producers one 30 minute Simpsons show warrants. The best writers and producers are gone.
3 posted on 02/16/2003 7:36:56 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ex-Texan
James Lileks (great columnist occasionally quoted here on FR, and a big Simpson's fan) thinks it's a matter of expectations. He noticed that when "post decline" episodes started airing in reruns they were hilarious, the same episode that disappointed when it was new was great when it no longer had to live up to the expectation of a new Simpsons. Just one theory.
4 posted on 02/16/2003 7:38:10 AM PST by discostu (This tag intentionally left blank)
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To: ex-Texan
This is really silly, I for one have never watched it and will never watch it. Just like the majority of the people.
5 posted on 02/16/2003 7:49:06 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: ex-Texan
Even a bad "Simpsons" episode is still better than the vasy majority of what's on TV these days. I, for one, will continue to look forward to their show for several more years.
6 posted on 02/16/2003 7:49:42 AM PST by Future Snake Eater
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To: org.whodat
"This is really silly, I for one have never watched it and will never watch it. Just like the majority of the people."

I just love people who can judge things they have never seen. And then go on to take the "majority" with them. That way you can go through life without ever having waste time with things you just "know" you're not going to like.

Unfortunately the "majority" didn't respect your wishes and have nade the "Simpsons" one of the most-watched television programs of our era.

7 posted on 02/16/2003 8:03:09 AM PST by capt. norm
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To: ex-Texan
The word for the first episodes is "literature."
8 posted on 02/16/2003 8:07:28 AM PST by Mercat
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To: ArneFufkin; discostu
Network television has declined, and declined rapidly since 1997. Tired of all the 'reality shows' yet? As for me: I never watched any of them, don't want to see them, and I will get up and leave if one is playing in a saloon or behind the bar.

Who gives a sh!t if 'Joe Millionaire' gets married or signs a contract to play 'Joe Camel' in a sitcom. Only a few shows on network television are even worth watching. Most of the time I am too busy with my own projects. My television STAYS OFF about 95 % of the day. I turn it on primarily to watch movie or travel videos borrowed from the main library. They have a great collection of Russian, French, Italian and German films and are buying more each month.

The Simpsons is still the best show on television.

9 posted on 02/16/2003 8:07:29 AM PST by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: ex-Texan
All I know is I'm always grateful the the Simpsons is done without a "laugh track." Every other sitcom has one (non-animated sitcom, anyway). Laugh tracks are like a big fake laugh bomb going off every time a character says something the writers wanted you to think was funny. they are offensive and show you what the Hollywood elite really think of their audiences.
10 posted on 02/16/2003 8:09:26 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: ex-Texan
Jump the Shark.com has multiple pages devoted to the burning question, 'When did The Simpsons begin their irrevocable decline?' It's pretty evenly divided between those who think the show's JTS and those who think the show is just as good as it's always been.
11 posted on 02/16/2003 8:18:03 AM PST by kaylar
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To: ex-Texan
I have no idea when it happened but the show definitely is much worse than before.

I remember once when we were staying in a cabin in the NC mountains and tv reception was awful. I would sneak away when the simpson's was on and watch it on a little 2" screen tv because I had found a spot about 40 feet away where reception was tolerable. This was around 1994. It was that good!

One day around two years ago, it suddenly dawned on me that I was no longer watching my favorite show.

I still occassionally watch it but it probably just has run it's course, as all shows do. Has anyone ever noticed how awful the last few episodes of "The Beverly Hillbillies" were?

12 posted on 02/16/2003 8:18:16 AM PST by yarddog
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To: ex-Texan
I like the one where I jump the shark!
13 posted on 02/16/2003 8:20:38 AM PST by Homer Simpson
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To: yarddog
Same thing with "Get Smart" ... when Buck Henry didn't manage the scripts anymore, it became less funny.
14 posted on 02/16/2003 8:20:51 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Conan O'Brien was one of their best writers. T'was a sad day indeed when he left.
15 posted on 02/16/2003 8:22:15 AM PST by Hazzardgate
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To: ex-Texan
Worst post ever!
16 posted on 02/16/2003 8:23:26 AM PST by southcarolina
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To: yarddog
You are right, the last gasps of a once great show are the worst.....better to go out while you are still hot, like Seinfeld did.
17 posted on 02/16/2003 8:23:42 AM PST by Morrigan
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To: ex-Texan
The Simpsons would hold a place in my TV Hall of Fame on the basis of one line alone. When Lisa and Bart confront Grandpa for mistakenly cashing their Itchy and Scratchy royalty checks:

Lisa: But Grandpa, what did you think when you started receiving these large checks in the mail for doing absolutely nothing?

Grandpa: Oh, I just thought the Democrats were in power again.....

18 posted on 02/16/2003 8:25:53 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Hazzardgate
Absolutely. James Brooks and Sam Simon attracted a lot of innovatively creative talent to make Groenig's world real. Al Jean, Mike Reiss, Conan, John Schwarzwelder, Jon Vitti etc. etc. They're world class. But, there's only so many new and inspired capers for Homer to bungle.
19 posted on 02/16/2003 8:29:19 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ex-Texan
Even here in good "old Europe" the Simpsons are popular and I watch them since 1993. They´re just GREAT!!
20 posted on 02/16/2003 8:29:47 AM PST by Michael81Dus (You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
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To: ex-Texan
This is one of my favorite exchanges.

From the sky comes a scream, as Homer is crashing right into the Capitol. A few footsteps later, he comes running down the stairs.

Homer: America, take a good look at your beloved candidates. They're nothing but hideous space reptiles.
[unmasks them]
[audience gasps in terror]

Kodos: It's true, we are aliens. But what are you going to do about it? It's a two-party system; you have to vote for one of us.
[murmurs]

Man1: He's right, this is a two-party system.

Man2: Well, I believe I'll vote for a third-party candidate.

Kang: Go ahead, throw your vote away.
[Kang and Kodos laugh out loud]

21 posted on 02/16/2003 8:34:30 AM PST by Homer Simpson
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To: ex-Texan
I love the Simpsons & didn't know that it had Jumped the Shark. I was suprised to read about the "decline". It is far superior to the so called "reality" shows that have nothing to do with reality. After so many episodes, people become immune to greatness.
22 posted on 02/16/2003 8:40:56 AM PST by jrushing
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To: Hazzardgate
Another thing that hurt that franchise was when Groenig selfishly tried to sabotauge Reiss and Jean when they were pursuing THEIR payday, the Brooks produced cartoon "The Critic". He talked it down, which Brooks accurately saw as an ungrateful betrayal to two guys who were as responsible as Matt for the success of his creation and the wealth and fame it brought him. So, a lot of the writing and production talent who were making Groenig rich took a hike. Groenig is a dismal guy.
23 posted on 02/16/2003 8:44:09 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: kaylar
Who knows when it happened—maybe it was when Homer visited the leprechaun jockeys in Season 11

That sounds like a good place to start if you're looking for when the show got in trouble. It looks like the writers, new or hold-overs, started to look at the show as an institution or franchise, rather than as something new or creative. They got lazy and self-referential and played off previous shows, rather than realities in the outside world. When the team did something new, they didn't escape winking and nudging references to earlier shows and the conventions of the series. But what makes the show different from others is that animation allows so many possibilities that a few bad shows don't make good ones impossible and drag the whole season down. It's hard to get as fed up with cartoony characters as with real actors.

24 posted on 02/16/2003 8:46:05 AM PST by x
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To: org.whodat
That's OK. I've never watched an entire episode of Friends, Who Wants to be a Millionaire (my wife would tune in and I'd have to leave the room suffering from nausea over the simplicity of questions earning tens of thousands of dollars and for which the participants needed help), or any of the so-called "reality" shows. Could never see what all the excitement was about, but I did reserve judgement until sampling at least a few minutes of the shows.

Commenting on something about which one admits to knowing absolutely nothing is, as you put it, "silly". For the fans of the show, The Simpsons provides some of the most biting and memorable satire that has probably ever appeared on American television.

25 posted on 02/16/2003 8:47:45 AM PST by katana
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To: x
A truly wretched column. I think the writer should join the GAL Club (Get A Life).
26 posted on 02/16/2003 8:48:55 AM PST by jraven
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To: Michael81Dus
lol! Love your tagline!
27 posted on 02/16/2003 8:55:45 AM PST by kstewskis ("Aim small, miss small..." Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
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To: Homer Simpson
Bart: "Dad! You killed the zombie Flanders!"

Homer: "Flanders was a zombie?"

I have gone WITHOUT the Simpson's since I moved in '96 to this rock in the South Pacific that doesn't HAVE Fox. Som technically, I can't say if it's declined or not. But, if I had to guess, or put one finger on anything, it would be the loss of Phil Hartman as the voice for Lionel Hutz, Attorney at Law...

28 posted on 02/16/2003 8:57:17 AM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta!!!!)
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To: nutmeg
bump to read later
29 posted on 02/16/2003 8:59:17 AM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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To: jraven
I respectfully disagree. This columnist is clued in ...
30 posted on 02/16/2003 9:02:31 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ex-Texan
The last great Simpson episode was the Stonecutters. It kind of makes you go hmmmm.
31 posted on 02/16/2003 9:05:15 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: org.whodat
This is really silly, I for one have never watched it and will never watch it.

I hope they use that in an upcoming episode. You have no idea how funny that sounds.

32 posted on 02/16/2003 9:06:06 AM PST by Cagey
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To: joebuck
hahaha...love it....i think King of the Hill is genious also.
33 posted on 02/16/2003 9:06:51 AM PST by chasio649
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To: kaylar
Every product of collabaritive creative invention has a shelf life. The best of the best won't be involved in making widgets. It's always been that way. John Lennon saw what the other boys wouldn't, and the Beatle historical legend is ensured forever because of it.
34 posted on 02/16/2003 9:15:41 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: kaylar
the burning question, 'When did The Simpsons begin their irrevocable decline?'

The target audience, unlike the show's characters, grew older; why else would the early episodes now be the favorites?

The notion that something can be made timeless by design is durable, even if not "doable."

While my daughter was growing up, I refused to have it on in the house; at the insistence of my neighbor who thinks the show is delightful I have been watching the daily reruns for about 3 weeks now.

I find it to be mostly boring and terribly animated.

If Homer is "everyman," then Springfield just may as well remain anonymous.

Just because we all know a "Homer," doesn't mean we care to be reminded of the fact.

35 posted on 02/16/2003 9:16:39 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: x
I honestly believe the Last Good Episode was in February 1993 : The Valentine's Day episode with Lisa and Ralph Wiggum. The show has had good moments or good lines since then, but that was the very last show I saw that was 100% great: The Dance of the Mediocre Presidents. "Bart, do you want to play John Wilkes Booth, or do you want to act like a maniac!?!?" The exact moment in slo-mo where Ralph's heart is ripped in two. The very next show was the wretched "Marge goes to prison for shoplifting at the Kwik e Mart", and it was wretched in a way that so many subsequent episodes were : A complete trashing of established character personalities. The characters started behaving in ways so 100% opposite from how they'd been before that it was like a bunch of outer space aliens who had never seen the show were writing the scripts. And that led directly to the complete changing of Homer's character, from lovable not too bright but well meaning family guy to what is known on the 'net as "jackass Homer" : A mean idiot. Homer had never been cruel before, and now he's repeatedly making fun of Bart for joinging the Boy Scouts!???!!

And then there's the Lisa Episodes : The horror, the horror. Here's how they go:

The whole family is sitting at the table talking.Everyone but Lisa expresses an unenlightened opinion on (whatever issue). Pan over to Lisa with a sad face. The music does that two note 'thingee' to let us know this is sad . Fade to commercial.

Scene two : All of Springfield has become a lynch mob, because all of Springfield holds the same unenlightened opinion on (whatever issue) first brought up at the Simpon dinner table . So Lisa shows up and while everyone is talking, she stretched out her arms and wails, "No, No ; listen to meeeee !" Then she gives Words of Wisdumb ; the music tells us this is supposed to be uplifting; everyone 'comes around' to her way of thinking.

Scene three : Happy Ending. Roll credits.

How I loathe that cartoon character. It's sad when a grown woman loathes a bit of paint on celluloid. But I loathe Lisa Simpson.

I think the worst episode is "Bart wins an elephant". Best : The Valentine's Episode for 1993. Or maybe the Daredevil episode. Or maybe any 1993 or earlier show.

36 posted on 02/16/2003 9:17:04 AM PST by kaylar
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To: Old Professer
While my daughter was growing up, I refused to have it on in the house

The Simpsons is beautifully drawn and filmed. It's not meant to be "The Roadrunner" in movement. This isn't claymation, it's great writing and social commentary.

37 posted on 02/16/2003 9:21:25 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
The Simpsons is a great show that has often been underrated. It's more creative than 99% of the shows out there.
38 posted on 02/16/2003 9:24:53 AM PST by The Toad
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To: ex-Texan
Homer consoling Lisa: " Oh Lisa, just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand."
39 posted on 02/16/2003 9:26:24 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: ex-Texan; MadIvan
One of the BEST lines in the Simpsons:

President Clinton: “Thank you Lisa, for teaching kids a valuable lesson — if things don’t go your way, just keep complaining till your dreams come true.”

Lisa: “That’s a pretty lousy lesson.”

President Clinton: “Well, I’m a pretty lousy president.”



40 posted on 02/16/2003 9:30:57 AM PST by Happygal
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THE BOY WHO KNEW TOO MUCH

Bart plays hooky and is stalked by a relentless Principal Skinner in a hiliarious and beautiful cinematography segment. Bart ends up at the Quimby compound and witnesses a scene between the Quimby nephew and the butler.


Freddy: Hey!  What the hell is this?
Waiter: [French accent] It's a bowl of chowder, sir.  ["shaudere"]
Freddy: Wait a minute, come here.  What did you call it?  Say it loud
        enough so everyone can hear.  Cone on, say it...
Waiter: Ahem.  Chowder.  ["shaudere"]
Freddy: [raucous laughter] Shau-dere?  Shau-dere?  It's "chowder".
        ["chowdah"] Say it right!
Waiter: [pause] Chowder.  ["shaudear"]
Freddy: [laughter] Come back here!  I'm not through demeaning you.
Bart is the only witness to an alleged crime of Freddy Quimby's battery of their butler, but can't testify for fear of confessing to playing hooky...and, of course, both Skinner and Homer end up on the jury.

Skinner: [thinking] I know you can read my thoughts, Bart. Just a
little reminder: if I found out you cut class, your ass is
mine. Yes, you heard me. I _think_ words I would never say.

Homer: [thinking] I know you can read _my_ thoughts, boy. [singing Meow Mix theme]
Meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow...
---

Lawyer: Your Honor, even though I've proven my client's innocence, I'd
        still like to call Freddy Quimby to the stand.  So that we can
        all bask in his gentle decency.
         [Freddy stands up, grins winningly at audience, takes stand]
        Mr. Quimby, did you assault Mr. LaCoste?
Freddy: Of course not.  I love each and every thing on God's green
        earth.
Lawyer: Therefore, you would _never_ lose your temper over something as
        trivial as the pronunciation of "chowder".
Freddy: That's "chowdah"!  Chowdah!  I'll kill you!  I'll kill all of
        you, especially those of you in the jury!
         [man on jury mutters, "He's clearly guilty"]
Lawyer: Wow, that didn't go well.  The defense rests.

41 posted on 02/16/2003 9:33:37 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Chowdahhhhh! CHOWDAHHHHHH!)
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To: ArneFufkin
40 posts in and no one has mentioned my beloved and soon-to-be-gone-forever FUTURAMA


42 posted on 02/16/2003 9:35:16 AM PST by Hazzardgate
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Homer: [thinking] I know you can read _my_ thoughts, boy. [singing Meow Mix theme] Meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow...

LMFAO!

43 posted on 02/16/2003 9:35:50 AM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: Happygal
That's the greatest!!
44 posted on 02/16/2003 9:36:52 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe (gotta have a duff, gotta have a duff)
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To: maxwell
  
Jasper: Why bother voting?  He's guilty.
Flanders: Well, we might as well make it official.
   Homer: What does "sequestered" mean?
 Skinner: If the jury is deadlocked they're put up in a hotel together
          so they can't communicate with the outside world.
   Homer: What does "deadlocked" mean?
 Skinner: It's when the jury can't agree on a verdict.
   Homer: Uh huh.  And "if"?
 Skinner: A conjunction meaning "in the event that" or "on condition
          that".
   Homer: So _if_ we don't all vote the same way, we'll be _deadlocked_
          and have to be _sequestered_ in the Springfield Palace Hotel
          --
   Patty: That's not going to happen, Homer.
  Jasper: Let's vote.  My liver is failing.
   Homer: -- where we'll get a free room, free food, free swimming pool,
          free HBO -- Ooh!  "Free Willy"!
 Skinner: Justice is not a frivolous thing, Simpson.  It has little if
          anything to do with a disobedient whale.  Now let's vote!
   Homer: Uh, how are the rest of you voting?
Everyone: Guilty.
   Homer: OK, fine.  How many S's in "innocent"?
Everyone: Aw.
   Homer: I'm only doing what I think is right.  I believe Freddy Quimby
          should walk out of here a free hotel.

Homer watches "Free Willy" at the hotel. Homer: Jump, Free Willy. Jump! Jump with all your might! [on the TV, Willy jumps over a rock barrier as a little boy smiles, but a shadow looms on his face and the smile turns to fear] Woman: Oh, no. Willy didn't make it. And he crushed our boy! Man: Ew. What a mess. Homer: Ohh, I don't like this new director's cut.
Bart: Mom, what if there's a really bad crummy guy who's going to jail but I know he's innocent? Marge: Well, Bart, your uncle Arthur used to have a saying: "Shoot 'em all and let God sort 'em out." Unfortunately, one day put his theory into practice. It took 75 federal marshalls to bring him down. Now let's never speak of him again. [hums as she dusts] Bart: Mom. ...Mom. ...Mom! Marge: Huh? Bart: What if I can get this guy off the hook? Should -- should I do it? Marge: Honey, you should listen to your heart, and not the voices in your head like a certain uncle did one grey December morn. [hums some more]

45 posted on 02/16/2003 9:43:49 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Chowdahhhhh! CHOWDAHHHHHH!)
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To: The Toad
I'm with you, but I wouldn't even give away that 1%. It was the best half hour of network TV, week after week after week, for 13 years, and because it is no longer as inspired as it was in its creative prime doesn't mean that it isn't still significantly better than the rest of the dreck. I think "Everyone Loves Raymond" is funnier right now, but the worst episode of the Simpsons is an exponentially more sophisticated and professional creation than the best episode of Fear Factor or Dawson Creek. Mario Lemieux is still a delightful joy to watch on the ice, even though he ain't the Mario of 1991. He's still the best player in the game. The game has declined along with his aging brilliance, so he's still number one. The same with "The Simpsons", but being the least ugly wildebeast in the herd shouldn't be good enough for the creators and artists, and this project is about over.
46 posted on 02/16/2003 9:46:00 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Old Professer
Homer Simpson is Canadian
47 posted on 02/16/2003 9:52:35 AM PST by perfect stranger (I like to leave this area blank.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I love the subtle stuff that's tucked into the background, like Homer standing at the steps of a library that has a sign hanging on it ... "WE HAVE BOOKS ABOUT TV."
48 posted on 02/16/2003 9:53:34 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: kaylar
The concept, and jokes, around Apu's history of gunshot wounding during "Quickie Mart" robberies is hilarious.
49 posted on 02/16/2003 9:57:51 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
"But, if I had to guess, or put one finger on anything, it would be the loss of Phil Hartman as the voice for Lionel Hutz, Attorney at Law... "

Not to mention Troy McClure

Troy: Oh Princess fair, wilst thou grant me thine dainty hoof in marriage?
[shows Selma a wedding ring]

Piggy: Oh, Sir Lies-A-Lot, I will!

Selma: Oh, Troy, I will!
[Troy slips the ring to her finger, then they kiss]

Troy: Just a second baby.
[sprays breath freshener in her mouth, then resumes kissing]

-- 3F15 "A Fish Called Selma"

50 posted on 02/16/2003 10:03:55 AM PST by Homer Simpson
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