We (Britain) must choose between Europe and America

The Independent (U.K.) ^ | 01/22/03 | Nick Clegg

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[expatpat]

Let's hope that the Brits don't chicken out and give up their sovereignty to the Eurobureaucrats.

[Doctor Stochastic]

The Atlantic Ocean is narrower than the English Channel.

[Malesherbes]

"Storm in Channel; Continent isolated."

[Man of the Right]

Aligning Britain more closely with the corrupt, socialist European bureaucracy and parliament is chaining it to a corpse. Britain should retain its remaining sovereignty.

Looking back, Eisenhower and McMillan made a historic error pressing Britain's candidacy for the EU. What they should have done is build a Anglo common market around the U.S., Britain and the White dominions.

Here's a three question quiz.

1. When Britain was threatened with invasion in 1918 and 1940, which of the following countries came to its aid, and is more likely to do so in the future?
a) Germany
b) France
c) The current U.N. Security Council, especially Syria and Angola
d) The United States

Which of the following is the largest potential market for tourism and British services and goods?
a) Germany
b) France
c) The current U.N. Security Council, especially Syria and Angola
d) The United States

Which of the following countries is closest to Britain in terms of language, political institutions, culture, and shared values?
a) Germany
b) France
c) The current U.N. Security Council, especially Syria and Angola
d) The United States

So whom should Britain choose?

We have the envelope, and the winner is...Germany. Yes, those wonderful folks who brought us World War II and the holocaust.

Not.

[MoGalahad]

If the British want to remain a free people, then the choice is clear.

[Robert_Paulson2]

The Britain we know, will NEVER surrender to the pu$$ie$ in France, or the folks who buzz bombed their grandparents a generation ago.

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France and Germany do not a problem, make. ... when france gets anything other than a toy navy that can't make it out of the mediterranean, and germany actually builds a UNIFIED military structure that could hold its own in an engagement with just ONE of our small LA street gangs... THEN give downing street a call... till then france and germany can stick it up their already occupied "you know what's".

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France and Germany are due for a arse-whipping sooner rather than later. If we had needed them to carry out our will as a sovereign nation, we would NEVER have taken this course... in our war against terrorists and the nations that support them... a war that incidently, leads straight to their doorsteps.

The NEW WORLD ORDER that is needed, is one that does not contain the likes of them...

I am ashamed and sorrowfilled that the UK has to live next door to these awful people/nations. We should have insisted at the end of WW2 that these two nations, the germans and the vichys were a mere footnote forever in histoire... they should have been dissolved forever.

[MoGalahad]

You forgot World War I as well. Great post!

[AmericanInTokyo]

You know, when the bombs start falling and all hell breaks loose in about 2-4 weeks in Iraq, and there is another OUTPOURING of US FLAGS on cars and homes throughout the land (they have by and large faded by now I believe, and year and a half out from '9-11'), why I think we should all make a point of adding BRITISH FLAGS next to American flags. I mean everywhere. Flagpoles, cars, walls at work, homes, etc. Our fellow Americans will get the message.

There ought to be an outbreak of British Union Jacks throughout the land along with our Stars and Stripes. I know it will be reported in the UK press, and make our allies feel even more appreciated.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

All these people need to remember is that they are living in freedom today because of US.HOPE THE EIFFEL TOWER FALLS!

[BurFred]

Lol, can't says I blame them for wanting to be on the winning team!

[expatpat]

Well, I certainly understand which way your vote goes! I just hope that the nancy boys in Westminster don't outvote you. Good luck, for sure.

[expatpat]

Yes, I think you're probably right, although Canada is more Euro than American, at least politically.

[Gil4]

HOPE THE EIFFEL TOWER FALLS!

1. That remark was awfully insensitive of you.

2. I hope that the Eiffel Tower does NOT fall, because one of these days I plan to wake up early on a Saturday, load up the car with my wife and five kids (while my wife is loading up the car with toys and "snacks"** for the kids) and driving to the Eiffel Tower, and I don't want it falling while I'm on the top of it. (It's about a 3 hr drive to there from here in Lens, Belgium)

** - I'm not sure exactly what she brings for snacks; I think we start out with 5 loaves and two fish, because when I clean up after a trip I usually collect about 12 baskets full of leftovers off the floor of the van)

[AmericanInTokyo]

Don't take it personally. I've had Freepers call for the immediate bombing of "the Japs" over Japan (in Tokyo) with an A-Bomb for a THIRD time, due to some trade dispute, and that of course would not make my morning here the best, either. :-)

[denydenydeny]

Ambivalence on the euro,
[a politically popular move, by the way]
a stubborn allegiance to Washington,
[Blair actually remembers the two World Wars--how dare he?]
and a resurgent Franco-German duo
[This is just laughable. Unless 15% unemployment is a sign of "resurgence."]
are proving incompatible with Blair's European aspirations. He will need to make painful sacrifices and take greater risks if he truly wishes to anchor the UK at the heart of the EU.
[The sacrifices the continentals want Britain to make--disarming, ruining the economy, destroying their national character--would not be "painful." They would be suicidal.]
He cannot afford to dither much longer. It is time to decide.

I think he already has.

[Dan Day]

He will need to make painful sacrifices and take greater risks if he truly wishes to anchor the UK at the heart of the EU.

Very true, but probably not in the way the author meant.

[jdege]

the UK should not have to choose between its affinity with the US and its place in Europe.

Given a "Europe" devoted to individual rights, free trade, and democracy, there'd be no need for such a choice.

But given the "Europe" we actually have, it's a very real choice.