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Posted on 01/03/2003 10:20:05 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; christie; ...
What are we going to do with these stupid judges?
To: farmfriend
hang them
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posted on
01/03/2003 10:22:45 AM PST
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CONSERVE
To: CONSERVE
I like that idea. Somebody would complain though.
To: farmfriend
Last nail in private loggings coffin?
EBUCK
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posted on
01/03/2003 10:31:43 AM PST
by
EBUCK
To: farmfriend
. Somebody would complain though.
Rope is cheap and plentiful.
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posted on
01/03/2003 10:33:46 AM PST
by
CONSERVE
To: CONSERVE
Tree sitters would just cut 'em down.
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!Your guess is as good as mine.(LOL)
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posted on
01/03/2003 10:45:52 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: farmfriend
Great idea to hold private land owners more responsible for enviromental reform......./Sarcasum
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posted on
01/03/2003 10:46:07 AM PST
by
jdontom
To: *Enviralists
To: farmfriend
Here's my over-all consideration of the legal profession/Judicial Branch.
No one element in our society has so screwed this nation at every level so inexorably as liberal trial lawyers and environmental lawyers. All they ever accomplish is making EVERYTHING cost more with negligible benefit to society as a whole.
The minute we get them controlled with meaningful tort reform, or better yet, loser pays, we will finally rid society of an inordinant obstruction to freedom and well being, for our Republic!
Talk about sheeple! Electing or appointing ANY of these intimidators to high positions of responsibility, including POTUS, (like that guy that just announced from the Carolinas) is evidence of "the public" being totally oblivious to the obvious by voting for them. They are taught eliteism in our liberal law schools. It is inculcated into their brash beings.
They are never taught the distinction between knowledge and wisdom. They are taught how to destroy power, but not how to weild it for the broad betterment of mankind. They are a destructive force for the evils of liberalism. Yet Americans treat them with respect and yes, even awe!
No lawyer should ever be allowed to produce laws. Their only function should be to argue and interpret through the Judicial Branch. They should be forced to represent anyone who asks for it, regardless of one's ability to pay, just like Doctors are forced to in Emergency Rooms and without tax dollars through a county/city public defender department.
It's incestuous to allow them to manufacture, interpret and enforce laws in a monopoly of their liberal ideas for the ruling of people. Besides, it just ain't working!!!
To: farmfriend
That is what this is for
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posted on
01/03/2003 11:10:09 AM PST
by
CONSERVE
To: farmfriend
And of course, it's got to be all the fault of the Judges and lawyers. Doesn't it? After all, the congress, your elected representatives, and the president, your elected Executive Officer, didn't pass the endangered species act. It just sort of got invented by some judge somewhere without any legislative action. right? Let's all be real carefull not to adress the real problem here ... after all that might actually result in doing something about it. And, then, what would we have to complain about? Why, we wouldn't be able to get all emotional and throw reason and thinking out the window like the liberals do then, now would we?
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posted on
01/03/2003 11:21:57 AM PST
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templar
To: SierraWasp
Here's my over-all consideration of the legal profession/Judicial Branch. Your opinion is your opinion and, as such, is not open to critcism. It would be interesting to know why you feel this way though. Any factual or logical reasoning involved in all that emotion? Seems to me that the legal system (faults though it may have) is doing a pretty good job of keeping a rather heavily armed society from killing each other by providing legal remedy to perceived wrongs.
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posted on
01/03/2003 11:30:44 AM PST
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templar
To: templar
I'm with templar on this. Judge Brown's decision is a straightforward interpretation of the Endangered Species Act, in light with what other Circuits besides the Ninth Circuit have decided. The primary villians here are the law makers.
To: EBUCK
Great. Anyone built a deck (much less a house) lately? Why is housing so expensive? (Hint: lumber prices?).
To: banjo joe
Yup. Exactly. And who bennifits when housing is expensive? Big lumber and eco-nuts.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/03/2003 11:39:06 AM PST
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EBUCK
To: Iconoclast2
To be more precise, I'm with templar on the problem (at least in this case) being with the laws, not the judges. I wouldn't agree that the judicial system is generally doing a good job.
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To: SierraWasp; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; alaskanfan; ...
"No lawyer should ever be allowed to produce laws." Under our constitution, no member of the Bar can hold public office because they have accepted the "Title of Nobility" Esquire from the Crown Temple in London.
The question is how can we enforce this provision of the constitution. - Can we sue to remove them? - The suit would be heard by another 'Esquire' with an obvious bias. Is there an answer?
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