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'Columbine' Named Top Documentary of All Time [Yes, Michael Moore's 'Bowling for Columbine]
Reuters via Yahoo! News ^ | Thu Dec 12, 6:14 PM ET

Posted on 12/12/2002 6:52:19 PM PST by Kaiwen

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - "Bowling for Columbine," about gun culture in America, gained momentum on Thursday as it rolls toward the Oscars, racking up the honor of best documentary of all time from the International Documentary Association.

Director Michael Moore also had the No. 3 nonfiction film on the list with his 1989 title, "Roger & Me," in which he took on automaker General Motors Corp. and its then-Chief Executive Roger Smith over a plant closure at Flint, Michigan that left thousands of employees jobless.

Coming in No. 2 was 1988's "The Thin Blue Line," about wrongful convictions in the 1976 murder of a Dallas, Texas policeman, and rounding out the top five were 1994's "Hoop Dreams" about high school basketball players and 1969's "Salesman," about four door-to-door Bible salesmen.

"All these films provide an intimate, behind-the-scenes look at the human condition," said the association's executive director Sandra Ruch. "They make you think about things you might not have ever considered before."

The International Documentary Association, or IDA, was formed in 1982 to serve as a forum for documentary filmmakers, and has since grown into a respected organization for nonfiction films with some 2,700 members in 50 countries.

For the most part, documentaries are relegated to film festivals and cable television channels because the material is generally considered too cerebral for mainstream moviegoers.

But "Columbine" has been an exception, and it is considered a front-runner for this year best documentary Oscar, which is Hollywood's top film honor handed out each year in March.

"Columbine" has already scored well with audiences, tallying $12.9 million at domestic box offices, which for a documentary is a big sum.

Last week, it earned the U.S. National Board of Review honor as the year's top documentary and won audience choice award at this year's Chicago International Film Festival. Back in May, it was given a special prize at the Cannes Film Festival in France.

In "Columbine," Moore takes a wry look at the fear that seems to grip the United States and the widespread use of handguns and rifles to seemingly address that fear, even as Americans face violent crimes and murders involving guns.

Moore covers topics ranging from the shootings at Columbine high school in Colorado to the murder of a 6-year-old girl by a 6-year-old boy in Michigan, and he interviews National Rifle Association President Charlton Heston.

Oscar nominations are announced on Feb. 11, and the awards will be handed out in a gala ceremony in Los Angeles on March 23.

"Bowling for Columbine" was distributed by United Artists, a division of the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. film studio.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: columbine; michaelmoore; stupidwhiteman

1 posted on 12/12/2002 6:52:19 PM PST by Kaiwen
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To: Kaiwen
Too bad that fat POS Moore doesnt get interviewed by the victims of violent crime..the raped the beaten the murdered the robbed ..who.... had honest citizens & neighbors been allowed to carry firearms by their commie govt..... would not be victims... scarred for life..Thanks be to Moore...and all low lifes who think as he does...

This award should have been presented to Moore by the Association of Rapists Murdereres and Theives thanking Moore for making their livlihoods and avocations much safer...

Moore and his ilk are the best friends thugs and rapists have...he should be so proud of himself..
2 posted on 12/12/2002 7:00:28 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: Kaiwen
Didn't see that movie, what is it really like?

My roommate saw it twice, saying it was a great movie yada yada yada but that doesn't mean anything.
3 posted on 12/12/2002 7:00:50 PM PST by anobjectivist
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To: Kaiwen
Gee, think there was a little institutional bias in THAT vote? Good grief. "Hoop Dreams" was incredible, should've been #1. Although, I'll grant Moore this--I've seen "Roger & Me", and though it's politically slanted, it *is* a well-done film.

}:-)4
4 posted on 12/12/2002 7:01:26 PM PST by Moose4
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To: Kaiwen
Best documentary of all time? Better than "The Sorrow and the Pity?" No freaking way. It isn't even better than "Waiting for Guffman."
5 posted on 12/12/2002 7:04:00 PM PST by Petronski
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To: Kaiwen
Hollywood liberals giving themselves awards. I can never understand why Freepers watch the Oscars.

Maybe it's a girl thing.

6 posted on 12/12/2002 7:06:34 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Kaiwen
I have not seen the film and probably wont unless its on hbo or something (if I ever get cable). I think the reason people went to this is because Columbine was supossed to be about gun control but what happened after the columbine shooting was that many people were attracted to the stories of Cassie Bernall and Rachel Scott and other people who were killed who were devout christians. Columbine became almost a code word for anarchy and clue-less parenting. So along comes Michael Moore to try to turn columbine into something about gun control. But most people realize its about alot more than that. IMHO!
7 posted on 12/12/2002 7:09:23 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: anobjectivist
I saw it, and it was total crap. Moore lied, and lied, and lied, and lied, and even if everything he said was true, his arguments still didn't make much sense. He didn't even come out in favor of gun control, he just said Americans were stupid and violent.
8 posted on 12/12/2002 7:14:01 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Kaiwen
I haven't seen "Bowling for Columbine", but if the International Documentary Association considers it the "best documentary of all time", I'm sure it must be a fabulous film.

Maybe I'll see if I can find a free bootleg copy on the 'Net.

9 posted on 12/12/2002 7:15:36 PM PST by Imal
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To: Moose4
I agree about Roger & Me being well made at least for a low budget film. If Moore was trying to make me hate GM mgmt, I am afraid he failed. But he did make me even more convinced of the stupidity of (rat-voting) UAW members. The film made me confident in my decision never to purchase a GM POS vehicle.
10 posted on 12/12/2002 7:17:37 PM PST by StockAyatollah
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To: anobjectivist
Someone I work with from the UK saw it and said, "If it were up to me, it would be mandatory that everyone watch that movie."

I said to her, "If you listen to yourself carefully, you will see why Great Britain continues to slide to the left."

End of discussion.
11 posted on 12/12/2002 7:17:51 PM PST by Mike K
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To: Kaiwen
I never saw the fifth film on the list, "Salesman," but I'm guessing it was just as anti-American as the first four on the list.

If you want to make a documentary that liberals will label "an all-time great" all you have to do is highlight some way in which you think America sucks.

Works pretty well for regular films as well.

12 posted on 12/12/2002 7:18:37 PM PST by dead
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To: Imal
Yeah, Fabulous, I heard that he used some doctored stats about Canadian Gun Crimes, LOL, Canadia has the population of San Diego I think. Yeah, I'm sure he butchered, and sliced/diced the statistics they way he usually does to blame America.
13 posted on 12/12/2002 7:21:07 PM PST by agincourt1415
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To: Kaiwen
In "Columbine," Moore takes a wry look at the fear that seems to grip the United States and the widespread use of handguns and rifles to seemingly address that fear, even as Americans face violent crimes and murders involving guns.

Wow! Moore's a friggin' genious, man. He must get his profound revelations from smoking the good stuff they get in Hollywood.

14 posted on 12/12/2002 7:24:37 PM PST by AF68
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To: xm177e2; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer
Moore lied, and lied, and lied, and lied . . . .

OK, the best fictitious documentary of all time.

15 posted on 12/12/2002 7:26:53 PM PST by dighton
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To: Kaiwen
The movie industry should simply create an award for the "Most Politically Correct" cinematic production. Then, they could get it out of their system and give out the traditional awards on the basis of merit.
16 posted on 12/12/2002 7:27:31 PM PST by steve-b
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To: Kaiwen
Obviously never watched victory at sea. Or any of David L wolpers documentaries.

Hollyweird people et al have no class.

17 posted on 12/12/2002 7:28:17 PM PST by dts32041
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To: Kaiwen
Hoop Dreams should be #1.
18 posted on 12/12/2002 7:29:08 PM PST by ewing
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To: agincourt1415
From my post, you can see how much I'm willing to pay to see it. :P
19 posted on 12/12/2002 7:30:43 PM PST by Imal
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To: Kaiwen
You want really great documentaries:


20 posted on 12/12/2002 7:31:25 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
'When We Were Kings' is the boxing one right?

I'll have to go rent it..

21 posted on 12/12/2002 7:34:20 PM PST by ewing
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To: Dog Gone
Girls watch the Oscars for the dresses & the hairstyles............. but you already knew that.
22 posted on 12/12/2002 7:35:08 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Dog Gone
I haven't seen the oscars since Star Wars (1977) won awards. Whenever they're on, I make it a point to take my Son somewhere to play; time better spent.
23 posted on 12/12/2002 7:36:18 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Mike K
My Dutch friend said the very same thing. I told her I wouldn't watch anything Michael Moore made.
24 posted on 12/12/2002 7:37:41 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Kaiwen
Bowling for Columbine," about gun culture in America, gained momentum on Thursday as it rolls toward the Oscars, racking up the honor of best documentary of all time from the International Documentary Association.

This action brings with it the same ominous foreboding as the Bancroft Prize for best historical work ... Arming America by Michael Bellesiles, now a discredited fraud forced to resign a tenured professorship. Shall the International Documentary Association go the way of the Bancroft Prize?

25 posted on 12/12/2002 7:37:41 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Kaiwen
The International Documentary Association must have some really, really low standards.
26 posted on 12/12/2002 7:38:10 PM PST by gieriscm
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To: ewing
Yeah, it's about the 1974 heavyweight championship bout in Zaire between George Foreman and Muhammad Ali.

It's a fascinating glimpse into boxing, promotion, Africa, the 1970s, race relations, Ali, Foreman and a whole bunch more.

27 posted on 12/12/2002 7:39:00 PM PST by dead
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To: Mike K
Isn't England suffering from the label, "Highest Crime Rate in the World"?
28 posted on 12/12/2002 7:39:19 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Kaiwen
(Well, another Michael Moore thread, so allow me to repost something from a couple of days ago...)

Why Michael Moore hates America

Moore does what he does because he is an ugly little man with serious sexual problems that have confused him all of his life. The confusion began at an early age when his mother and father would take turns fondling him to sleep each night. Later, as a teenager, Michael was trained to be a film set "fluffer" by a homosexual pornographer who took him under his wing. This is when Michael first developed his interest in filmmaking. Michael eventually ran away from home when one of his mother's boyfriends, a very fat man with a bad case of halitosis, gave Michael a painful case of anal warts. After that things go downhill for Moore and the rest is a closely guarded secret that Michael refuses to discuss.

Anyways, that's my theory about Michael Moore. This is the kind of background that could warp a person into a liar with a raging jealousy and an obsessive hatred for anything traditional or decent.

29 posted on 12/12/2002 7:46:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Kaiwen
Some guy in Germany just made a better documentary than Michael Moore.
30 posted on 12/12/2002 7:48:11 PM PST by dead
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To: dts32041
Victory at Sea would be my first choice. But I haven't watched any Michael Moore stuff since his follow up to Roger & Me, either.

Pity, Moore can has some really good flashes of insight. But they are only flashes, and usually misdirected to support
his politics, rather than the facts.

31 posted on 12/12/2002 7:49:02 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Dog Gone
Hollywood liberals giving themselves awards. I can never understand why Freepers watch the Oscars.

It's a little more than self-congratulation, take it from an old publicist/PR guy. It creates a headline. From the headline a legend is created through repetition and the Big Lie technique. Pretty soon the legend is 'fact,' and is even repeated by Congress-critters when they start making appropriations. The Left has used this technique as long as I've been around and it still works like a charm. Remember Alar? Yes, it was finally discredited, but it took 500 Philadelphia lawyers and a mean mule to do it. Most of these liberal lies are never even challenged.

32 posted on 12/12/2002 7:49:34 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: ewing
Yeah, no documentary comes close to Hoop Dreams. Granted, the producers pretty much lucked out with the twists involved in the lives of Messrs. Gates and Agee, but still the story was riveting.

Where does Jerry Seinfeld: Comedian rate on the list?

33 posted on 12/12/2002 7:50:35 PM PST by kwyjibo
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To: Bernard Marx
"Carlos Hathcock:Marine Sniper"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6304967160/102-2868085-0722564?vi=glance

Now that's a documentary! Of course "Exploding Varmints II" wasn't half bad for a sequel...
34 posted on 12/12/2002 7:51:56 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: dead
I agree completely. 'Crumb' was fantastic. It was the best attempt I've ever seen into finding out what makes a person the way they are, and in Crumb's case, why his art is the way it is. Granted, that something was a family that makes Crumb look pretty normal... But 'Crumb' would probably be my number 1.
35 posted on 12/12/2002 8:11:14 PM PST by Kaiwen
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To: dts32041
VICTORY AT SEA! I've got it on tape! The music alone is worth it!
36 posted on 12/12/2002 8:22:30 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaiwen
>Oscar nominations are announced on Feb. 11, and the awards will be handed out in a gala ceremony in Los Angeles on March 23.

It would have to be at a 'gala' ceremony, wouldn't it?

37 posted on 12/12/2002 8:30:28 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: ewing
Waco: Rules of Engagement should be right up there.
38 posted on 12/12/2002 8:34:51 PM PST by JURB
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To: Kaiwen
"Bowling For Columbine" should have been disqualified from this award on the basis that it is not a documentary, it is a fictional film. Lots of documentaries use slanted statistics and one-sided arguments, which is considered fair game for documentarians who are not under any obligation to be "fair and balanced." But "BFC" contains scenes represented as fact that were clearly staged. For instance, he superimposed titles over a Bush ad from 1992 which were not on the original, which is falsifying archive footage. And the scene of him walking out of a bank with a free gun was totally staged. That bank didn't give away guns in the lobby; they gave away coupons redeemable at a gun shop for a free gun after you filled out the paperwork for a background check and finished the waiting period.

There is a difference between presenting a point of view and simply lying and falsifying footage. This is not only not the best documentary of all time, it can't even legitimately be called a documentary. If it is a documentary, then so was "Attack of the Clones."

39 posted on 12/12/2002 9:25:14 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Kaiwen
And "Crumb" was overlooked. Ripoff!
41 posted on 12/12/2002 11:24:40 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Kaiwen
Maybe the boogieman needs to visit Mr. Moore and school him on the advantages of firearm ownership.
42 posted on 12/13/2002 2:11:20 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: Kaiwen

 

 Worst documentary, ever.

43 posted on 12/13/2002 7:10:35 AM PST by Fixit
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To: dead
When We were Kings was fantastic.
I just watched "Little Deiter needs to Fly" by Werner Herzog.
If you have never seen it....rent it today.
A German boy who watched his village bombed by allied planes, wants to learn to fly....comes to America, joins the Navy, gets shot down during Vietnam war...taken prisoner...escaped....in-friggin-credible.
44 posted on 01/12/2003 12:22:17 AM PST by Feiny
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