Mexican medics take sick to U.S.

Washington Times ^ | December 12, 2002 | Jerry Seper

[sarcasm]

Mexican ambulance drivers are transporting hospital patients unable to pay for medical care or emergency-room services in their country to facilities in the United States, where their treatment is mandated by federal law, authorities said yesterday.

The border crossings have been reported from Brownsville, Texas, to Douglas, Ariz., and involve Mexican ambulance companies whose drivers have been instructed by hospital officials in Mexico to take ailing and uninsured patients to the United States, the authorities said.

[RLK]

We are going to have to build a 30 foot high wall, shoot anyone climbing over it, and catapult anyone who doesn't belong here back over it.

[HaveGunWillTravel]

cool.

[ECM]

This is utterly ridiculous.

Why is it that nobody seems to care about this travesty?!

Can votes from illegal immigrants be worth this kind of lunacy?!

[holyscroller]

This insanity has got to stop. The answer is NOT more funding for hospitals on the border. The answer is DON'T LET THEM IN! Remember the good old days at Ellis Island. The sick were put back on the ships and sent home. These Mexicans must think We're the biggest suckers in the world. Unfortunately we are as long as we allow this to continue. At least the Canadians who come in to use our hospitals bring cash. (Our Northern border hospitals LOVE Canadians. They gladly pay.)

[Texas_Jarhead]

"Sen. Jon Kyl, Arizona Republican and sponsor of legislation to reimburse border hospitals for their mounting losses"

This is stupid. The solution is to tell the Hospitals that they do not have to accept these people. Americans without money or insurance could net get help form hospitals in mexico. Of course these dumbasses in the legislature would rather expand federal expenditures.

[Cacique]

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[RLK]

These people are simply crossing the border and comandeering this country.

[sarcasm]

The solution is to tell the Hospitals that they do not have to accept these people.

I guess you're not a compassionate conservative.

[xm177e2]

If the patients are suffering from a disease, wouldn't illegally importing them into our country be a form of bioterrorism?

[gubamyster]

The solution is to tell the Hospitals that they do not have to accept these people.

I guess you're not a compassionate conservative.

I was going to post the same comment as Texas_Jarhead. I'm compassionate - compassionate about reducing my taxes so I can spend my money on my own family rather than illegals.

[gubamyster]

bump

[Lion's Cub]

Sen. Jon Kyl, Arizona Republican and sponsor of legislation to reimburse border hospitals for their mounting losses

By all means, let's continue to give the country away...

We should declare war on Mexico and take their oil fields as reimbursement.

[Texas_Jarhead]

"I guess you're not a compassionate conservative."

I am compassionate but the mezkins have used up all my compassion for them and now fill its void with resentment. I don't know what part of the country you reside in but in my parts they have had a massive impact. I used to think well of them but not anymore. With each passing year their numbers grow and so does their disdain for America and Americans. Racism and cultural superiority are the rule rather than the exception. Too many parasites eventually kill their host. I don't care for that eventuality.

[sarcasm]

Just my attempt at sarcasm.

[Texas_Jarhead]

I thought it might be but I wasn't sure so I just wanted to be clear.

[dennisw]

So now America is Mexico's emergency room? Is that all we're good for? To be exploited? Mexico is nothing but a breeding ground for rip off artists and parasites.

[sarcasm]

Just think of it as one of the side benefits of NAFTA. Mexico never built any infrastructure to accommodate the flood of workers into the border area and now we wind up paying for their medical care.

[dennisw]

Just like American Patrol said two years ago. The maqilladora zones draw Mexicans right to the border. The maqilladora zones function as a staging area for invading the United States. Especially as the maqilladora concept turns to shit as those factories move to lower priced China.

[sarcasm]

Nothing compared to the number of displaced farmers who will be travelling north over the next year.

[dennisw]

If the patients are suffering from a disease, wouldn't illegally importing them into our country be a form of bioterrorism?

Their disease is being born into a 3rd world craphole that unfortunately for us is right on our border. Shackled to an ungrateful corpse

[dennisw]

Nothing compared to the number of displaced farmers who will be travelling north over the next year.

Add this to recession, war on Iraq, layoffs, trade deficits, lower dollar and we have a perfect storm on the horizon.

[sarcasm]

You forgot THIS one.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

This report will wake a bunch of people up. With an attitude like this, the WT will make a huge difference on this issue.

Everyone cares. But the rats see a new crop of uninformed voters, and the GOP thinks it can inform this new batch of uninformed voters. In the meantime, we get screwed. And we do care.

[texastoo]

Since it is so late tonight, I thought I would one-up the Washington Times with a very true story.

Last winter a patient crossed the border from Mexico in a Mexican ambulance with a "border crossing card". These border cards are shopping cards. He was a ventilator patient and they ambu-bagged him all the way. Since it was winter, the hospital was full of patients. Therefore, we had to discharge an American to make room for the illegal.

The irony of all this free medicine, is that the illegals can sue the doctors, hospitals and nurses. AND they are doing just that. Free medical care is a lottery ticket for illegals.

[tdadams]

How can this situation be allowed to continue? Can anyone reasonably justify allowing Mexicans to cross a border into a country other than their own for the sole purpose of leaching medical care with no intention of paying for it?

Would any other country feel any obligation to treat an influx of people from a neighboring country knowing their only intention is to mooch off of that nation's taxpayers?

Does our government feel such a dire need to maintain good relations with Mexico that it's willing to march straight into it's own suicide?

Grrr...waiting for Atlas to shrug!

[ECM]

So you're saying the outlook is rather bleak?

;)

[grania]

hmmmm: "Is it a form of bioterrorism"? Gosh, you are clever. That kind of puts an end to the ridiculous arguments about why they can't be stopped.

Just who is letting these ambulances across the border anyway? Wouldn't that be treason?

[mhking]

Boortz had the right idea on his show this morning: when the Mexican ambulances come to dump their Mexican patients (now Mexican illegals) at the American hospitals, grab the drivers and ambulances.

Confiscate the ambulances (perhaps give 'em to a hospital or fire department who is in need of an extra vehicle or three), and charge the driver with transporting illegals over the border. Once ol' Vinnie Fox gets tired of having to pony up to keep replacing ambulances, he'll put the kybosh on that practice real quick...

[Chemist_Geek]

So, you guys really want to hear the following..?

"We're sorry, but unless you can provide three forms of ID, proving your American citizenship, we won't provide any treatment for your respiratory distress. Sorry, just sit there and suffocate. Try not to make a mess. Thank you!"

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

If this continues unabated, it will bankrupt the U.S. healthcare system and drive health insurance costs completely out of sight. It has simply got to stop. And, we've got to stop treating illegal aliens who cannot pay who are already here. I know it seems cruel, but it will eventually kill our children.

In Mexico, as I have posted before, if you don't pay...you don't get care. It's that simple.

[tdadams]

I'd settle for two forms of ID.

[texastoo]

Let me assure you that Mexican ambulances ARE transporting patients from Mexico to American ER's. Their ambulances aren't exactly like ours though. The ambulances that I have seen are more like pick-up trucks with a wide camper on back. Much smaller than ours. They also have Mexican license plates and are marked as an ambulance.

Many hispanics live in Mexico that are on medicare and medicaid. These people are legal. They also use these same ambulances. My guess is that the Mexican ambulance service gets paid by medicare and medicaid.

Canada pays for their citizens through their insurance. If a Canadian is stable enough, Canada sends an airplane to pick them up.

To me, that is the answer. We should demand that each country pay the health care cost of their citizens.

[glock rocks]

holy crap.

[Mamzelle]

The only way I see any help coming, or any way to enforce the law, is for the hospitals to voluntarily shut down or shut down their urgent care and ERs. I just don't see any other way out of it. Even a little money from the feds would just keep them alive a little longer.

The kindest thing these hospitals could do is shut down, create a big stink, and draw attention to the issue.

[skeeter]

I'm afraid Bush & the GOP has painted themselves into a corner on the border issue. Anything he or the GOP does to fix this problem will be trumped up to ridiculous heights ('refusing emergency care to hispanics') and used as a wedge issue between his party and that holy grail of modern politics, the "latino" vote.

They should NEVER have let things get this far out of control.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

I'm afraid Bush & the GOP has painted themselves into a corner on the border issue.

And this whole Trent Lott idiocy that the hypocritical left is beating the GOP down with is going to exacerbate the border disaster. Bush and co. are going to pay even more special attention now to making sure they don't offend the "undocumented workers" sneaking across the borders in the middle of the night searching for the American dream.

[skeeter]

Leave it to the GOP to snatch defeat fm the jaws of victory.

[Ajnin]

I wonder how these ambulances are driving across exactly. I know at some time they are encountered by the Border Patrol. I wonder if the Agents are told not to stop ambulances. This type of thing has never happened in my Sector. However, we are not allowed to determine alienage on a sick or injured illegal. We have to call EMS. Once EMS takes them to the hospital and they get treatment they are free to stay in the US. Determining that a Mexican is illegal is one of the quickest ways to the beach.

[Ajnin]

I wonder how these ambulances are driving across exactly. I know at some time they are encountered by the Border Patrol. I wonder if the Agents are told not to stop ambulances. This type of thing has never happened in my Sector. However, we are not allowed to determine alienage on a sick or injured illegal. We have to call EMS. Once EMS takes them to the hospital and they get treatment they are free to stay in the US. Determining that an injured Mexican is illegal is one of the quickest ways to the beach.

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[dennisw]

BUMP THIS OL’ THREAD.

A 5 year old snapshot of FR comments on illegal immigration

[goalseven]

Invasion was a great book and Michelle was accurate with the information regarding immigration enforcement procedures. In Mortal Danger by Tom Tancredo is even better regarding the cultural, social, and economical destruction being caused by massive illegal immigration into the United States. A DEFINITE must read as well!

[2ndDivisionVet]

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

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