Sen. Leahy Slams Sen.-elect Chambliss as 'Draft Dodger' (The Fun)

NewsMax ^ | 11/13/02 | Limbacher

[My2Cents]

Leahy...what a maroon. Of course, what can one expect from a state that is known for its sap?

[Chemnitz]

"For years, Cleland believed he had dropped the grenade that nearly took his life. But Lloyd assured him it was another Marine, who had straightened all his grenade pins, who dropped the explosive that Cleland stumbled upon.

'It took such a load off my mind," Cleland said. "When I first got the call, I just didn't believe it.'"

From: http://www.savannahnow.com/stories/113000/LOCbooksigning.shtml

[Thebaddog]

Wasn't Cunningham featured in an old gun camera video where he got some ungodly number of kills in one day?

[kylaka]

Silent Cal. You know, my county library system does not even have one book about Coolidge and there are 10 libraries in the system. I went looking for a book called "Coolidge and the Historians". I eventually found it in one library in the State. Great book Too!

[Wolfstar]

The president and his advisors never said anything of the sort. The president went out and supported members of his own party. Never once in his standard stump speech did he mention Democrats. When he spoke of the Homeland Security Bill, he would always say a good bill was passed by the House but it was stuck in the Senate, which was (and remains) true. Every statement attributed to Leahy in this article is a LIE -- not the article, but Leahy's statements.

[Savage Beast]

"Leahy complained that President Bush had won the Senate by supporting the Republican candidate in Georgia, who, Leahy added, 'was a draft dodger who attacked Sen. (Max) Cleland on his patriotism.'"

This is not true. Chambliss clearly said:

"I'm not questioning your patriotism. I'm questioning your judgment."

Is Leahy saying that he doesn't know the facts here??? If he doesn't, why not??? Is he intentionally distorting the facts??? Is he ignoring the facts??? Is it merely an honest mistake on Leahy's part???

The truth is easily available to everyone--including Leahy.

[cksharks]

Every ad I saw questioned nothing about his patriotism. They questioned his voting record.

[Trajan88]

Since Leahy's statement was not made on the Senate floor and that what he said was a lie, cannot he be sued for slander?

Leahy = leaker

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88

p.s. Vermont's very own Ben & Jerry's ice cream SUCKS... go for the real stuff... Blue Bell from that little creamery in Brehnam, TX (not far away from God's country... aka Texas aTm Aggieland).

[nickcarraway]

He took time out of his busy schedule leaking classified information to do this interview?

[oldironsides]

Another Catholic abortion supporter. Kennedy, Pelosi, Kennedy Townsend, Patrick Kennedy and a host of others supporting abortion. When will these bishops call them up on the abortion issues. I am really sick of it. An email campaign to each diocese would not hurt.

[Russell Scott]

A bloated ego releasing a lot of hot gas.

[frnewsjunkie]

Cleland voted FOR partial birth abortion.

I question the character of anyone who votes for that.

[F-117A]

To be quite honest I found political ads that implicit questioned Cleland's patriotism to be simply grotesque.

I believe the phrase is, put up or shut up! Just who is being grotesque?

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

I thought you might like this.

[A Simple Soldier]

Sadly, the story is less heroic than his propagandists would have you believe. As LT Max Cleland, an Army Infantry Platoon Leader, was exiting a helicopter on a combat assault (not under fire), one of his fragmentation grenades accidentally came off his web gear. He noticed it and turned to look for it. Unfortunately, the pin had come out and the spoon had flipped, approx 3-4 seconds earlier. By his turning around, his body position shielded some of his men nearby from the fragmentation. He was less than a foot from the grenade when it detonated.

He was awarded a Soldier's Medal for "shielding his soldiers" and a Purple Heart for wound received in action. I believe he also later received a Silver Star, but it was a generic award not necessarily tied to the incident, but sort of a Platoon Leader Good Conduct Under Fire Award. This was very common in Vietnam.

Max Cleland did his duty. Nothing more and nothing less. That in and of itself is more than most and something we neglect to recognize. But to call him a hero, frankly weakens the term for those who really measured up to the term in a Homeric sense. He further denigrated those who really are heroes by overemphasizing his service and trying to make it something more than it was.

[nickcarraway]

"He supported a man, for example, in Georgia who was, well, the best way to put it - was a draft dodger who attacked Sen. Cleland on his patriotism. And the president joined in that. Sen. Cleland lost both legs and an arm in Vietnam. But the man who avoided the draft several times won.

Didn't Leahy support a draft-dodger (Clinton) over a man who lost use of a limb in war (Dole)? Or did he support Dole in 1996?

[Alberta's Child]

I think they've just changed the rules. You can't collect a disability check (that is supposed to make up for lost income) at the same time you are getting paid for a full-time job.

This is something that probably should have been done a long time ago. There are some insurance companies that would allow such a thing (under a specific set of circumstances that I could explain if you'd like), but this kind of insurance is extremely expensive.

[Geezerette]

Beady eyed Daschle

I think it was Rush who described Daschle as mortician-like! Mortician with beady eyes .. Ya, that'll work!

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[Hacksaw]

Leahy is a thuggish man. Revenge is a dish best served cold, and it got very cold in Leahy's office after he found out he lost his chairmanship.