[Betty Jane]

If what happened the Lord said it would happen that is a miracle. God has control over all of nature.

[Hanging Chad]

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[Junior]

The Lord often uses whatever is at hand to get the job done.

[per loin]

The cloud could have also reduced the rainfall, causing a drought. If the Nile had then been poisoned by the effects of the eruption, pollution could have turned it red, as happened in a recent environmental disaster in America.

Anyone know what this is a reference to?

[L.N. Smithee]

I can't wait to hear how they explain that Moses et al heard a blast that was a thousand times more powerful than a nuclear bomb, and didn't make mention of it as such.

[My2Cents]

Reminds me of the claim a number of years ago by a skeptic that the Red Sea (or "Sea of Reeds") may at times recede to a depth of a couple of inches, thereby allowing the people of Israel to cross it and only get their feet wet. This prompted another to proclaim: "The whole Egyptian army drown in two inches of water?! It's a miracle!"

[KeyWest]

What is most important is that science continues to confim the truthfulness of the Bible. In the 1850s the Bible was proclaimed to be all myth and science put more stock in Homer than the Bible. Around 1950 scientists started using the Bible as a source and set to see if what was in it could be confirmed. It has been the source of the discovery of many civilizations/tribes that were once thought not to have existed. So this is just one more confirmation.

[billorites]

It gets better.

Weekly World News reports Three More Commandments Found.

[aardvark1]

presented in a new BBC documentary.

Do they have film and some good interviews.

[Alex Murphy]

So instead of attributing the event to God, we're supposed to just believe the Israelites and Moses just had really incredible timing.

Funny the article didn't offer any explanation about the death of the firstborn, or any of the other plagues that only afflicted the Egyptians, despite the Israelites living within their midst.

[Preech1]

Besides...this "explanation" is not new, it is at least 50 years old, and I expect much older than that. Anyone who has seen "The Ten Commandments" with Charlton Heston should remember the part where Pharoah Ramses II (played by Yul Brenner) put forth the same exact "explanation" to explain away the waters being turned to blood...unfortunately this does not explain the water in their barrels and vessels turning to blood (Exodus 7:19)

"Let God be true and every man a liar..."

[Salman]

So he made a computer animation? The computer said so, then it must be true?

It's one thing to be sceptical, but this is just plain silly.

Nowhere near as amusing as Velikovsky's theory that the Exodus were caused by the planet Venus erupting from Jupiter and passing close to the Earth.

That one "explains" the manna as well. Carbohyrates condensed from the Venusian atmosphere, of course.

[Guyin4Os]

The dates don't coorrespond. Also, the location for the Red Sea crossing was likely in a much different location than the Bitter Lakes... more likely the Gulf of Aqaba, which was considered part of the "Yam Suph" or Red Sea. Check out the BASE institute's website for a different perspective.

[Sophie]

God will be so glad to know this! Thank you for sharing.

[Cicero]

What a bunch of pseudoscientific nonsense. Has anybody seen a plague of frogs or a plague of locusts accompany any volcanic eruption in the past five hundred years? Or staffs turn into serpents? What morons these secular sons of the Enlightenment can be.

[Lurking Libertarian]

It repeats the theory that "Red Sea" is a mistranslation of the Sea of Reeds, a much shallower swamp.

Well, that part at least is correct; the Hebrew is yam suf, the sea of reeds; "Red Sea" originally appeared in English not as a mistranslation, but simply as a typo for "Reed Sea."

[#3Fan]

Exd 14:21 And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go [back] by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry [land], and the waters were divided.

Exd 14:22 And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry [ground]: and the waters [were] a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.

A volcano causes walls of water to the right and left side for hours. Sure, happens all the time.

[N. Theknow]

It repeats the theory that "Red Sea" is a mistranslation of the Sea of Reeds, a much shallower swamp.

What a miracle! Praise The Lord!

The Egyptian Army drowned in a foot of water!

[sheik yerbouty]

Doesn't it say "the lord caused an east wind to blow"? Doesn't sound like a volcano to me.

[grania]

I did a term paper for a theology course in 1964 in which I argued that all of the events on Moses's journey could have been caused by that volcanic eruption. It's just fascinating; in my mind the timing proved that a greater being must have had a hand in creating a situation which made the biblical events possible.

The professor gave me a "D" for the paper, for being outside accepted thought patterns for religion class. I thought it was pretty funny, since it was actually a research project I enjoyed and learned something from!

There are theories around that the island that was destroyed by the volcano was the basis for Atlantis legends, and its eruption caused the migration of Mediterranean seafaring people all over the world.

[LostTribe]

>... the Biblical plagues and the parting of the Red Sea were natural events...

Sure they were. Whatever works...

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[SunkenCiv]

search for info on "mount sinai a volcano" (a book, late 19th, early 20th c):

Google

[SunkenCiv]

Biblical Plagues and Parting of Red Sea caused by Volcano
News.telegraph.co.uk ^ | 11/11/02 | John Petre
Posted on 11/11/2002 12:44:06 PM PST by Betty Jane
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/786902/posts

Moses' Egyptian Name
Biblical Archaeology ^ | 5-30-2003 | Ogden Goelet
Posted on 05/30/2003 11:32:54 AM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920412/posts

Nefertiti's 'Love Affair' With Moses to Hit the Silver Screen
Yahoo News! ^ | Fri Apr 8
Posted on 04/08/2005 4:21:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380126/posts

Tomb May Shed Light On 10th Plague
Boston Globe ^ | 11-23-2004 | Charles M. Sennott
Posted on 11/23/2004 6:11:43 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287173/posts

Catastrophic event preceded Dark Ages - scientist
Source: Reuters
Posted on 09/08/2000 10:06:44 PDT by VadeRetro
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39b91ca42b27.htm

Egyptian Jurists Sue 'The Jews' for Compensation...
of Gold Allegedly Stolen During Exodus from Egypt
Memri.org ^ | 8/09/03 | Dr. Nabil Hilmi, Dean of the Faculty of Law at the University of Al-Zaqaziq
Posted on 08/21/2003 12:48:59 PM PDT by adam_az
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/968120/posts

Evidence for Major Impact Events in the late Third Millennium BC
Evidence of Astronomical Aspects of Mankind's Past and Recent Climate Homepage
FR Post 9-4-2 | Timo Niroma
Posted on 09/04/2002 4:48:54 PM PDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/744698/posts

Is Yahweh punishing the enemies of Israel with natural disasters?
Posted on 02/01/2005 5:38:05 AM PST by BlackJack
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333341/posts

Meteor Clue To End Of Middle East Civilisations
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-04-2001 | Robert Matthews
Posted on 01/03/2002 10:50:09 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/601395/posts

[SunkenCiv]

PROBLEMS WITH MT. SINAI IN SAUDI ARABIA
Compiled by Brad Sparks
http://www.ldolphin.org/sinai.html

A diagnosis for a biblical plague?
Tomb could hold clue to Moses legend
By Charles M. Sennott
The Boston Globe
WEDNESDAY
May 18, 2005
Article Last Updated: 11/26/2004 11:47:21 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/faith/ci_2475207

[gleeaikin]

I know this is 4 years after the initial post, but perhaps some will see this and find it useful.

1) The bible lists the years before and after the Exodus as 400 and something. Back to when Abraham came to Egypt, and before the building of the temple in Jerusalem. This would seem to put the events in the 1400's BC. This is well outside the Santorini events which have been dated to 1600's. Another possibility is Mt. Etna, which had a catastrophic event at 1500 plus or minus 50 years. I am not finding much information about that event unfortunately. I have seen an arial photo of a recent Etna eruption with a tail of ash headed to North Africa. Perhaps ash from the early Etna eruption crossed the Nile above the Egyptian settlements, contaminated the river and caused the following: 1) red caused by particles in water or by algal bloom (think phisteria) causing red tide. 2)Major fish kill caused by toxic organisms or ash. 3) Lots of frogs, because fish were not eating their eggs. 4) Overpopulation of frogs leads to starved, dead frogs, and lots of flies. 5) Cattle plauged by flies and/or toxic waters. 6) Humans sickened by all of this.

2) An ancient form of bread called Essene bread is made with sprouted grain with very minimal cooking and a moist interior. Contaminated water would sicken those who ate such a bread. The unleavened bread of the Jews, would be dry and better heated, killing organisms.

3) "Pillar of fire by night and of smoke by day" There are inactive volcanoes in the Sinai area. Have not found much information on when these were active. Interesting research topic for budding geologists. Suspect this is what Moses and co. saw. In other research I have found that there have been some extensive periods of volcanism with widespread activity including earthquakes and earth movement. See events of 1811 and 1812, and Caribbean basin in 1902. The parting of the sea could have been caused by elevation of the ground and subsequent sinking, especially if there was an active volcano in the area.

4) While Crete experienced significant destruction as a result of Santorini, the more severe decline occured more than 100 years later, perhaps coinciding with the Exodus time period. More research needed.

5) Since Pharaoh would have been royally p....., it would have made sense for Moses to stay in the desert until word reached him that Pharaoh was dead. My candidate for this is Amenhotep II. He was co-regent for a time with Tutmosis III, and then ruled himself for a number of years. After Tutmosis' death he made seven punitive raids into the Middle East to put down uprisings against Egyptian rule and subsequently had a fairly long reign. I think when I added it up some time ago it was a total of around 38 years.

If anyone has additional information, please post it. I will check back occasionally.

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

Smoke on the Mountain: An Interpretation of the Ten Commandments
Source: The Westminster Press, Philadelphia
Published: 1953 Author: Joy Davidman
Posted on 09/26/1999 19:55:16 PDT by logos
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37eedc945143.htm

Mount Sinai Was A Volcano In Saudi Arabia, Says Scientist (Exodus)
The Telegraph (UK) | 6-13-2003 | Roger Highfield
Posted on 06/12/2003 9:15:39 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/928064/posts

[SunkenCiv]

New Ice-Core Evidence Challenges the 1620s age for the Santorini (Minoan) Eruption
Journal of Archaeological Science, Volume 25, Issue 3, March 1998, Pages 279-289 | 13 July 1997 | Gregory A. Zielinski, Mark S. Germani
Posted on 07/29/2004 3:25:45 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1180724/posts

[copodular623]

i am writing a 10 page paper for my sophomore class and this information really has helped me. i have one Q though it is mentioned that there was a environmental disaster in America with this pollution problem. does anyone know what that is referring to???

[mysterio]

Just because the events have a basis in natural phenomenon doesn't mean they weren't orchestrated by God. Nature is God's creation, after all.

And I'm a pro-evolution biochemist.

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