Muhammad, Malvo linked to crimes here (TACOMA )

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER ^ | October 29, 2002 | MIKE BARBER, LEWIS KAMB AND CANDACE HECKMAN

[Sacajaweau]

We still haven't heard anything about the "type" of Islamic literature Mohammed was passing out.

[Sacajaweau]

One of the members of the Oregon cell was divorced. However, it seems like it was his ex-wife was aiding him and wiring him money while he was trying to get into Afghanistan. She was also arrested.

With all three weekends indicating a southern direction safe house, where were they??

[anniegetyourgun]

Of course they are. White and black supremacists are just two sides of same Jew-hating coin. Hatred of each other is secondary, though it tends to get more play in the media.

[hispanarepublicana]

"islam-is-religion-of-peace" (my a55) bump

[twigs]

The police searched the woods in Clinton, MD (the town where the second ex-wife is living in hiding) on Oct. 8 (the day after the shooting of the boy in Bowie) after receiving a report of a suspicious man sighted in those woods.

I remember that; it was discussed on FR. I didn't realize that's where his ex-wife was living. There were media reports right after these two were arrested that authorities wanted to find her, then all of a sudden, a total black-out on her. Have you heard more? Maybe the plan was to kill her, but it still seems that he was trying to get caught.

[Catspaw]

The target of both white supremacists and black supremacists are Jews. They hate each other, but in all other respects, they are, indeed, two sides of the same coin.

[Catspaw]

Mohammed's second ex-wife lives in Clinton, Maryland. I remember reading accounts that one of their children spotted Mohammed, so he may well have been stalking her.

One theory was that one of the victims was his/their real target and the rest of the killings and shootings were cover. It may be that he had not gotten to her yet.

Had she been killed by Mohammed and Malvo, he would've regained custody of the children--remember that he had kidnapped them and took them to Antigua, but after he came back to the states, she, with the help of law enforcement, was able to get the children back. He had even gone so far as to hire a lawyer (one J. Mills, who portrays Mohammed as the victim) to get custody of the kids.

[areafiftyone]

They were saying on Fox News this morning that Mohammed got his money from helping illegals from Antigua come into this country. I heard that some people charge $10,000 per head for smuggling illegals. He must have gotten alot of money and then ran out when the administration changed when Bush came into office and realized he couldn't get away with it anymore. That is probably why he asked for the $10 million ransom.

[undergroundwarrior]

"Federal officials yesterday confirmed that Malvo is legally known as Lee Boyd Malvo, but had informally adopted the first name of his partner. Authorities are still unsure about his age, saying he may be 19. "

Perhaps, Lee Malvo was Muhammad's young gay bitch???

Question: How common is it for a friend to lend out his weapons????

[twigs]

I saw Mills. Couldn't believe that he could defend the man. I believe he may have been the man Greta VS was interviewing when she cut the interview short saying that she was in no mood to defend the sniper.

Thanks for the info about his ex-wife. There were several people killed that I've wondered about--Buchanan, the son of the retired policeman; Bridges, with ties to Farrakhan; Johnson, from Jamaica; and Franklin, an FBI analyst.

[Sir Gawain]

[twigs]

ran out when the administration changed when Bush came into office and realized he couldn't get away with it anymore.

Interesting. If we can get the riff-raff cleaned out of our government (I know it's a never-ending process), then how much safer we and our descendents will be!

[aristeides]

I've discovered more or less when the Baltimore police investigated Muhammad's Caprice. Muhammad stopped for food at a sandwich shop in Baltimore the evening of Oct. 7 (the shooting at the school in Bowie was around 8 AM on the 7th,) and asked the permission of the people in the shop to park and sleep outside the shop that night. The people there said he could, but that the police were likely to hassle him at some point during the night. Which the police then did, at some time during the nighttime or early morning hours. So Muhammad could have gotten to Clinton (near Bowie) in time to be sighted in the woods in the late morning of the 8th.

[aristeides]

20% of respondents on a black Web stie -- blackamerica.com -- said they believed the police were scapegoating Muhammad and Malvo.

Oops, room for an O.J. jury.

[aristeides]

I haven't heard anything about that second ex-wife in days. I think the media may be honoring her desire for privacy.

[areafiftyone]

I agree. I thank god every day that Bush is in office and not THE GOREBOY!!

[browardchad]

I am, however, hoping that the feds are on the lookout for the opening this black (or is the correct term around here, African-American?) man has given to Aryans who might target their favorite folks to hate - Jews, while making the crime scene appear to be hit by a ME muslim or black muslim (more favorites on their hit list).

You really need to brush up on the history of NOI and American muslims -- particularly as it pertains to Jews. I suggest you read Daniel Pipes' "Militant Islam Reaches America," which details the history of the NOI from its earliest roots, as well as the violence directed at Jews by both NOI and Muslim groups. A sample:

An effective division of labor exists in American Islam. While the Nation of Islam is the leading font of anti-Jewish ideology in the United States, mainstream Muslims have a near monopoly on violence against Jews....Far right fanatics can only claim the June 1984 murder of Alan Berg, a Jewish talk-show host in Denver; in contrast, Muslim assaults on American Jews have included many lesser incidents (such as a series of attacks on Chicago-area synagogues) and a long list of major ones."

Farrakhan has openly and publicly called Judaism a "gutter religion" and Adolf Hitler a "very great man" --- word for word, he's beat out the Aryan Nation for well-funded and in many, instances, publicly-supported, hatred of Jews. I would suggest that given the facts -- and not some pre-conceived Clinton/Reno FBI mantra -- it is entirely appropriate to look for suspects in anti-Semitic crimes among the members of the NOI and American Muslim groups.

[anniegetyourgun]

I'm well aware of their Jew-hating history....and the same hatred exists for Jews among white racists.

[Spunky]

The guns were loaned to John Allen Muhammad by an acquaintance who allowed the former Fort Lewis soldier and his young companion, Lee Boyd Malvo, to stay at his home, authorities said.

All the responses to this article didn't seem to pick up on this part of the story.

My Link to the Seattle Times gives more detail on this.

Seattle Times

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for finding and posting this article.

The Washington State Crime Lab says one of those guns, a .45-caliber pistol, was used to kill 21-year-old Keenya Nicole Cook on Feb. 16 when she answered the door of her aunt's Tacoma home. Court records place Muhammad in Tacoma last Feb. 12, when he was ticketed for shoplifting.

On Feb. 16, Isa Nichols returned home after running an errand to find her niece's body just inside her open front door. Cook had been shot in the face. Her 6-month-old daughter was found, unharmed, on a diaper changing table.

Cook's mother, Pamala Nichols, 45, said that as soon as she heard that John Muhammad was linked to shooting so many people on the East Coast, she thought he had something to do with her daughter's murder. Police have said they suspected her killer was someone familiar to her.

I have the feeling that if some good Freeping is done to backtrack the travels of this hate filled Nation of Islam Stone killer, John Muhammad. We will find a trail of bodie for at least a decade. Most will be blacks who presented a problem to the Nation of Islam, so the Nation of Islam had their butcher, John Muhammad make a house call to handle the Black causing a problem.

I still want to know where he lived while serving in the Oregon National Guard. The left wing Politically Correct Oregonian fishwrap is avoiding this story as only a Politically Correct fishwrap can.