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The Muslims who discovered America
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| 10.11.2002
| Joseph Farah
Posted on 10/10/2002 10:40:55 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: sheik yerbouty
Yep, couldn't have said it better..That's almost as funny as Ron Karenge (Kwanzaa) stating the blacks started western civilization and had wings and flew around the pyramids.
Just show me the evidence, that's all I ask of them. So far, it's only talk.
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posted on
10/11/2002 9:42:12 AM PDT
by
Coleus
To: Alouette
I don't know what "Messianic Jew" means in this context.
It appears that Columbus was equal parts Jew and Christian. Apparently one of his goals was to spread the Gospel, his argument that the world was round was based on Hebrew Scripture, and in his diaries he used both "The Year of Our Lord..." and the Jewish calendar equivalent.
That's the extent of my knowledge on the topic, although I have always wanted to study this more in depth. Perhaps I'll make that a project this Monday, in tribute.
42
posted on
10/11/2002 9:45:07 AM PDT
by
AnnaZ
To: swarthyguy
Will they be making an ownership claim based on this "history"?
43
posted on
10/11/2002 9:47:48 AM PDT
by
CaptRon
To: swarthyguy
I thought about that; the viewpoint that Columbus was Jewish.
Bet that's not talked about too much in their lessons.
I won't take that bet.
But isn't this just what America needs right now? Yet another group of delusional, self-aggrandizing revisionists.
(((sigh!)))
44
posted on
10/11/2002 9:48:14 AM PDT
by
AnnaZ
To: swarthyguy
Real Americans don't attempt to co-opt a national holiday commemorating an American historical hero by offering unsubstantiated, self-serving conjecture about the role their own ethnic and religious group played in the founding.
Moslems are not and will not be real America. I blame Sen. Kennedy, and the liberals for imposing diversity, and opening the flood gate to these Moslems to come and live amongst us.
To: swarthyguy
So, I suppose my Viking ancestors were a bunch of limp-wristed wussies that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, and couldn't find their @$$ with both hands, right? This is a pathetic attempt at revisionism. Nothing more.
To: AnnaZ; Black Agnes
I've read that Columbus was born in a Jewish ghetto in Italy. I've also read that it was the Portuguese, who had the proper schools and knowledge for sailing, and it was them who sanctioned the voyage and provided the training and sailors.
Will the real Christopher Columbus please stand up?
47
posted on
10/11/2002 10:25:55 AM PDT
by
Coleus
To: Coleus
Do a google search on Zeno, also on Henry Sinclair. Columbus married into one of their families IIFC, and possibly came into possession of a map showing the voyage/path of Henry Sinclair.
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To: livius
They continued to practice their former religion and were known, as you say, as "judaizantes," judaizers Actually I thought the standard term was Morrano.
These Conversos were the primary victims of the Inquisition.
As for the article, it doesn't matter if Muslim Chinese Egyptian Carthaginian Polynesian Ainu and Viking navagators "discovered" America. (The Ainu or similar Caucasoid peoples may have preceeded the Sibeian peoples who are the modern Native Americans. "Kennewic Man" is the remains of a Caucasoid man, who resembelles the Ainu. The Ainu are the Inhabitants of Japan and Sakhalin displaced by the Korean settlers who are now the Japanese .)
The only "discoveries" of the Americas of any real historical significance are those of the Siberians who migrated during the Ice Age and of Christorpher Columbus. Both were followed by large scale colonization and displacement of the preceding poplation.
50
posted on
10/11/2002 11:33:50 AM PDT
by
rmlew
To: rmlew
BUMP
To: Black Agnes
From an E mail I received.
COLUMBUS DAY: A CELEBRATION OF DISCOVERIES AND ITALIAN HERITAGE
For some, Columbus Day is a national holiday to honor the famous explorer and the great discoveries he made in the Anew world@ eight centuries ago. However, for many citizens, Columbus Day has become a celebration of Italian heritage and achievement.
In New Jersey, a state which according to 2000 census figures has more than 1.5 million residents who claim Italian ancestry, the holiday seems to be a little more special. It provides many Italian-Americans with the opportunity to reflect on the many contributions Italians have made to our state and nation.
The effort to recognize the contributions Italians have made to our state has taken root at Rutgers University in New Brunswick where the Italian Heritage Institute, a working arm of the Italian American Heritage Commission, was recently established.
Rutgers' plans include encouraging its own faculty, with expertise in areas such as art, history, political science, music, performing arts and sociology, to work in conjunction with the Institute.
The goal is to help New Jerseyans recognize how much Italians and Italian Americans have contributed to the state.
Last year, the Legislature got the ball rolling by approving an initiative that established the Italian American Heritage Commission. The measure was signed into law by Acting Governor Donald DiFrancesco.
The 21-member commission has a broad mandate to support all educational initiatives that provide information to the public about the contributions Italians have made to the State of New Jersey.
One of the benefits of this commission is that it provides Italian Americans, like many other ethnic groups, top share their heritage with all New Jersey residents.
Unfortunately, ethnic stereotypes sometimes overshadow the many prominent New Jersey men and women of Italian ancestry who have made significant contributions to our state and nation.
John Basilone, a World War II hero who was awarded both the Congressional Medal of Honor and the Navy Cross, hailed from Raritan. Mr. Basilone died at the Battle of Iwo Jima in 1945.
United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, arguably one of the sharpest legal minds on the Court, was born in Trenton.
Two of our nations's most noted entertainers, Frank Sinatra and Jon Bon Jovi, were both born in the Garden State.
Maria Botto, the labor rights activist who was instrumental in the 1913 silk workers strike, also was a New Jersey resident. Her home in Haledon is now a museum devoted to the labor movement.
New Jersey is a state that has been greatly impacted and influenced by the Italian culture. Columbus Day should be a holiday that gives due to the great explorer's discoveries, but also the many men and women of Italian ancestry who have helped shape this great state and nation.
I know the Italian people are proud of their heritage, but I also know they are proud to be called Americans.
So to all my fellow Italian Americans, Happy Columbus Day. May God Bless You and God Bless America!
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posted on
10/11/2002 3:12:35 PM PDT
by
Coleus
To: firebrand; Cacique; StarFan
Ping to Coleus's post of #52.
To: knighthawk
A few months back there was an article on Islam Online about how an 'archeologist' found evidence that there were moslims on the continent before Columbus. And stuff about native indians who we muslims and so on. Wait until it is revealed that the recent discoveries of what appear to be cities on the moon are found to be Muslim also. hehehe.
54
posted on
10/11/2002 5:11:49 PM PDT
by
sinclair
To: swarthyguy
I'll agree that this is ridiculous, but no more so than people claiming that the Aztecs* invented television.
And I'd hold that real americans don't go around saying that "real americans do / don't do (fill in the blank)" but that'd be a little contradictory.
J
* everyone with a brain knows it was the Mayans.
To: sinclair
Cydonia isn't a mosque?
To: swarthyguy
Farah is on the money once again
To: swarthyguy
That revisionistic garbage, is right up there with the canards about Cleopatra being black . If you don't have your own " heros ", then I guess you have to steal / invent them.
It's long past time, that WE tell the PC / unicultural crowd where to get off ... and mean it !
To: Alouette; AnnaZ; rmlew; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr
Was Christopher Columbus Jewish? - J. Feinstein On March 31, 1492 the Edict of Expulsion (also called the Alhambra Decree) was signed. Every Jew in Spain was forced to choose between conversion to Christianity or leaving the country forever without their possessions. 150,000 Jews left Spain, many first went to Portugal, and following expulsion to the Ottoman Empire. On July 31st (7th of Av), the last Jew left Spain according to some sources and August 2nd (9th of Av), according to others. Columbus sailed on August 3, 1492. He did insist, however, that all of his crew be on board August 2nd, which was the not only the day all Jews had to leave Spain but also the 9th of AV.
Was Christopher Columbus Jewish? Why is it so hard to tell?
Mysteries Behind Our History: Was Columbus Jewish? - Chuck Missler
Mestizo Jews
More here: Do a Google Advanced Search for converso jew "Christopher Columbus"
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posted on
10/12/2002 5:47:41 AM PDT
by
2sheep
To: Black Agnes
i can´t look as i just had lunch. such nonsense makes me nauseated.
BTW, i didn´t know my people were LOST! as far as i knew we had been here doing fine for about 25-30,000YEARS!
free dixie,sw
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