Timeline of DC-area shootings

Fox News Online ^ | 10/7/02 | AP via Fox News

[Wolfstar]

Are there any FReepers from the area who can shed light on the distances involved from site to site?

[muawiyah]

The Islamofascist taxicab driver doing the shooting has managed to put a Jewish angle on every single shooting except 1 - that's when he killed the only witness - the Indian taxicab driver who could probably identify him!

These locations are either Jewish neighborhoods (for the most part), or Jewish owned businesses, or businesses commonly believed by Middle-Eastern types to be Jewish owned.

It's just like the anthrax attack down in Florida. The next facility "downwind" of AMI was a state college with a predominantly Jewish student body.

Clearly this is an AlQaida thing going on here.

We just had another shooting near "Lily Pons".

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I think this is a copycat from an episode of "Homicide."

[dd5339]

Does anyone know the distance and traffic conditions between shootings #4 & #5? According to the timeline, there is a 25 minute time span there. From the map, those two locations are relatively far apart.

My question is; is it possible to get from point #4 to point #5 in 25 minutes at that time of the morning?

If it's not possible to make that trip, then it's real simple. There are at least two shooters!

Semper Fi

[lugsoul]

look again - it was a 1 hour, 15 minute time span

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Just an aside, regarding officer Moose, the head of the Montgomery police force.

I don't think he's the next Columbo or Dirty Harry, but he seems earnest and dedicated. The guy gives the press conference at the crack of dawn and is there again at night. I doubt he's gotten much sleep at all in days.

To be honest, I can't help think "hmm, is he an affirmative action pick?", which is one more reason that affirmative action is so insidious. I have no doubt that his race probably was a factor in the selection process.

But I would say that at least he is not an embarrassment, and seems mature and to be trying hard.

Your thoughts?

[Rockyrich]

I haven't heard whether people hear the rifle shots or are the shots being silenced? Does anyone know?

[Damocles]

Interestingly all the shootings take place in the early morning hours or late evening. Maybe this perp has somewhere to be during the day (school, work?).

[Fred Mertz]

I don't see a real pattern here. Just unarmed citizens doing capitalist activities and going to school.

[Fred Mertz]

I thought the shooter(s) would lie low after this weekend, but I was wrong about that.

[dd5339]

"— 8:12 a.m. Thursday, 10/3: Taxi driver Prenkumar Walekar, 54, of Olney killed as he pumped gas at station in Aspen Hill area.

— 8:37 a.m. Thursday, 10/3: Sarah Ramos, 34, of Silver Spring killed outside post office in Silver Spring."

Last I counted the little marks on my watch that time difference is 25 minutes. :-)

Semper Fi

[jpl]

These locations are either Jewish neighborhoods (for the most part), or Jewish owned businesses, or businesses commonly believed by Middle-Eastern types to be Jewish owned.

Interesting, this is the first I have heard of this, and I live not very far away from Montgomery County, MD. Out of curiosity, how do you know this?

[RolandBurnam]

wasnt there an al qaida threat against schools? the latest shooting was at a school...

[lugsoul]

You can count fine. It's the reading that seems to be the problem. The #4 and #5 from the list you reference are NOT the #4 and #5 from the map.

[aristeides]

Easy to get from Leisureworld to Kensington inside of an hour.

[Boxsford]

Some guy interviewed on FOX earlier today said he thought a silencer was being used since people were not hearing shots fired. That said, I saw only one interview held at a gas station where the cab driver was shot and he said he and another guy did hear a 'pop' sound and went outside to see what it was and found the cab driver shot.

[John H K]

Gosh, you mean you haven't driven through Bowie MD and Fredericksburg VA and seen all the Hasidic Jews walking around and the Synagogues every 10 feet?

Sarcasm off.

[abner]

I don't see a pattern either. Who knows, maybe it is too early in his game to have a pattern yet.

I thought he would lay low too.

[Boxsford]

Maybe we haven't heard about it because the media is too pc to mention this if it is a fact? That would pretty much klinch pointing fingers at muslims.

[LikeLight]

I have no idea whether or not these are Jewish neighborhoods . . . but IF true, then that's yet another Al Qeada warning we got during the past year (targeting Jewish neighborhoods) . . . Curious to find out if any accuracy to the characterization of these areas

[texson66]

Montgomery Co has a large Jewish community.

[Dog]

Look again.....Fred ....the number 4 and the number 7 are in the pattern..

[Boxsford]

I posted on another thread how a guy on FOX being interviewed mentioned a pipe bomber several years ago in the midwest bombed out a pattern of a smiley face over the course of several states. This guy seemed to think there was a 'wedge' pattern going on at this point. Don't know what the value of a wedge pattern might be however.

[abner]

Which pattern?

[Dog]

Follow the shootings 1 thru 5 ....as they progress from start to finish ....it draws out the number 4.....and the number 7 is in there with shootings 6 thru 8.

[Dog]

See my 25.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

The #4 and #5 from the list you reference are NOT the #4 and #5 from the map.

Then the poster/auther must be a C programmer...

[abner]

Which means what exactly?

[aristeides]

Most conspicuous Jewish presence in Montgomery Co. is the orthodox synagogue north of Colesville Rd. and east of Georgia Ave. in Silver Spring. You can see lots of people walking to and from it on Saturday. There's a kosher restaurant, supermarket, and gift shop in a complex on University Ave. in Wheaton. None of the shootings has happened near either of these places.

[John H K]

No, it's that this Muayiwah person is insane, a blatant liar, and/or knows nothing about Maryland and Virginia.

In no way, shape, or form are ANY of these locations known for being Jewish neighborhoods or Jewish-oriented.

Bowie is only notable for being an island of whites in a county that is increasingly becoming overwhelmingly black; but the whites that are there are largely a remnant of the pre-expansion-of-DC-suburbs Southern Maryland old-time funny accent redneck WASP Tobacco farming community (and before people flip out and get insulted, that's 1/2 my family, who grew Tobacco in Southern Maryland for decades.)


Fredericksburg is pretty far out in the sticks in VA, actually too far to really be a DC suburb, and while like many rural towns it's getting built up, I suspect you'd be hard pressed to find more than a handful of Jews there; it's basically NASCAR country, really. I have spent far less time in that area and haven't been there in years.

Regarding Montgomery County, being largely a wealthly white suburban community for DC, obviously it's going to have SOME Jews, but actually the areas where most of the shootings occured are close to the DC line, and certainly have no reputation whatsoever as being Jewish neigbhorhoods.

[dd5339]

I was referring to the printed copy. The cute graphic leaves out the first shooting.

"— 5:20 p.m. Wednesday, 10/2: Windows shot out at craft store in Aspen Hill area. No one hurt."

Given a choice, I'd rather cite from text instead of graphics.

Semper Fi

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Whoever's behind this should be guillotined.

Not just the head, but the rest of the body as well.....

[dd5339]

But can you get there in 25 minutes?

Semper Fi

[Dog]

Your guess is as good as mine.....I don't know.

[LikeLight]

How about a crescent moon and a star . . . isn't that from one of those Islamic flags (need one more shot to fill out the crescent moon almost perfectly)?

[Fred Mertz]

Are there any of those radical Muslim clerics/Mullahs/Imams in the area? The ones that recruit for the cause.

[John H K]

These locations are either Jewish neighborhoods (for the most part), or Jewish owned businesses, or businesses commonly believed by Middle-Eastern types to be Jewish owned.

How true this is...you can hardly turn around without seeing Anti-semitic propaganda about all those thieving Jews owning all the arts & crafts stores, auto dealerships, and gas stations.

(Sarcasm OFF)

[John H K]

Well, I'm sure there's a Mosque somewhere in the DC area.

And I bet there's at least one Jew that lives or works within 50 miles of each of the shootings.

That conclusively PROVES the shooter must be an Islamic terrorist, doesn't it?


(If you can't spot sarcasm at this point, you're beyond hope...no more warnings :-)

[Boxsford]

Thanks for the info. This is not a time to be jumping to conclusions without facts. Thanks again.

[Corin Stormhands]

Fredericksburg is pretty far out in the sticks in VA, actually too far to really be a DC suburb, and while like many rural towns it's getting built up, I suspect you'd be hard pressed to find more than a handful of Jews there; it's basically NASCAR country, really.

It's not out in the sticks as much as it used to be. And much of F-burg would now be considered bedroom community for DC. But I do believe you're right that there's not a large Jewish population there.

[Fred Mertz]

Hey man, some of us are brainstorming this, looking for possibilities. I haven't leaped to a conclusion, but I'm leaning that way.

[freeperfromnj]

You are right. I physically connected the dots and they clearly form the numbers 4 and 7. Could something be planned for the 12th?

[freeperfromnj]

Make that the 11th.

[dd5339]

Ghost,

Thanks for the info. Living in flyover country I have no perspective of the local environment there.

Semper Fi

[aristeides]

Look at the timeline. The distance you have to make in 25 minutes is from Aspen Hill to Leisureworld. That too is easy to do.

[aristeides]

Didn't that imam at the Laurel mosque have to leave the one in Arlington, Texas because he was considered too radical?

[Hatteras]

"But can you get there in 25 minutes?"

You can travel that distance in less than 10 minutes at that time of the morning. Two or three lights, straight shot on 3 lanes of road. It only takes a second to pull the trigger.

[jpl]

Your description of the area sounds pretty accurate to me. I have heard some people joke that the real Mason-Dixon line runs through Fredericksburg, VA.

In my opinion, whoever is doing this qualifies as a terrorist, but I agree that it is way too early to make any assumptions about the race or ethnicity of the perpetrator.