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FBI's "Perverse Culture"
The New American
| 9/23/02
| Insider Report staff
Posted on 09/18/2002 5:51:25 PM PDT by Boot Hill
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All the agents I've ever come in contact with were the most ethical and honorable men and women I've ever known, but this Harp guy sounds like a real gem. Twenty-five thousand agents, 2% rotten apples equals the potential for 500 Lon Horiuchis. If there is an institutional bias for the worst to rise to the top, then what we've seen so far from FBI snafu's is only a mere hint of what is to come.
Regards,
Boot Hill
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posted on
09/18/2002 5:51:26 PM PDT
by
Boot Hill
To: Boot Hill
Well, while we're on the subject of the FBI, did you catch Brit hume tonight on FOX talking about a Lackawanna area lady who claims she knew agents were doing something in the area? She saw them in their car, steaking out what she thought was probably a drugs suspect, but she knew they were FBI because they were always reading the Washington Post while sitting in their car. How's that for blending in, huh?
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posted on
09/18/2002 5:55:52 PM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: dcwusmc
PING
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posted on
09/18/2002 5:59:31 PM PDT
by
Boot Hill
To: Boot Hill
Agreed, most FBI agents are honorable...in the field (away from Washington). When it comes to cases of public interest, the FBI sadly gels into a self perpetuating interest group. The top leadership of the FBI should all be dismissed. They alone are responsible for Ruby Ridge, Waco (enough lies told here to keep a confession booth in operation for years).
This destruction of reputations because the FBI is feeling heat to solve a case is cowardly. When you get rid of the thugs and liars at the top, the honorable men of the FBI will be able to do the job.
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:05:19 PM PDT
by
OldCorps
To: mewzilla
I don't care how good a detective you think you are, your average observent mother watching her neighborhood can spot a stakeout (or any other unusual activity) faster than you can finish a cold beer on a hot day.
--Boot
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:05:22 PM PDT
by
Boot Hill
To: Boot Hill
LOL. A couple of them spotted one around here once. Walked right up to the car and asked the men, though they didn't know the men were officers, what the heck they were doing.
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:07:47 PM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: OldCorps
"The top leadership should be dismissed."
I agree, a purge.
--Boot
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:08:59 PM PDT
by
Boot Hill
To: Boot Hill
" Twenty-five thousand agents, 2% rotten apples... "
Your estimation is low...
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:09:14 PM PDT
by
Vidalia
To: Vidalia
"Your estimation is low"
I assume you are basing that on something more than just "feelings".
--Boot
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:12:02 PM PDT
by
Boot Hill
To: Boot Hill
F umbling
B umbling
I diots
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:12:34 PM PDT
by
hgro
To: Boot Hill
The FBI guys I've met aren't the kind of folks I would let mow my lawn when I was out of town, let alone trust them with a badge and a gun.
The FBI shouldn't be reformed, it should be dismantled.
The only worse federal agency I have ever dealt with was BATF. I flat out refused to work with those incompetent boobs.
L
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:21:29 PM PDT
by
Lurker
To: hgro
LOL, better than "F-Troop" for the BATF, though!
--Boot
To: Lurker
Sounds like you've had some real unpleasant run ins with FBI, BATF. Have you ever posted your experiences to FR?
--Boot
To: Boot Hill
I also know of some agents who I consider to be straight arrows. That having been said, how anyone in their right mind can look at the facts behind (1)Ruby Ridge; (2)Waco; (3)Richard Jewell; (4)Elian Gonzales and now (5)this Hatfill and not conclude that there are some very, very rotten apples in the FBI barrel.
One can also read about what happened to Gary Aldrich and his partner. Considering that it happened in the Clinton Whitehouse is not at all surprising but to hear Gary tell it, not one person in the Bureau stood up for him or is his friend today. He said that when one works that many years with many of the same people, they become like family and losing all of them was very hard not only on him but also his wife.
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:39:24 PM PDT
by
zerosix
To: zerosix
Pretty reasonable assesment. Being a proud agent today must feel a little like being a proud Marine and then hearing someone like Scott Ritter reminding everyone that he too is a former Marine.
--Boot
To: Boot Hill
Yup, the power trips and arrogance have allowed a majority of agents to second guess the Constitution, and only when they have a chance of being taken to a court of recognition where the media might show up do they "abide by the rules", yet whose rules is still a mystery to many.
Just because an agent, regardless of years served is fired, "let go", retired or whatever, the badges and other authoritative documentation is kept by the individuals, and if need be, will be replaced by friends in the agency (no records) .
They continue to have access to weapons from the "evidence pile" inclusive of plastique explosives etc. which hundreds have used for personal use and financial gain.
The fingerprint database and the agents' records have been corrupted on many occasions for professional and personal gain.
Agents, active or fired or whatever have hired out as hit men, couriers, spotters (cleaning routes of crimes to give the perps a "clean route of escape"); you can name your choice.
This ain't Kennedy stuff here, I am talking the last 25+ years across the political arena and some corporate HQs.
ATF, DEA, FBI all have a contingent of dirty/rogue elements who, up until about two years ago ran free and unfettered.
They helped the Clintons starting back in Arkansas. They helped Enron assholes. The evidence is piling up from the most unlikely people/places. The body counts of innocents from these bastards has dropped, along with the babies for sale trade out of various cities.
Catching the drift?
Your handle is apt, for many of these guys are not going down quietly, continuing to believe they are little gods who were trained to be above the law.
So Be It...
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posted on
09/18/2002 6:50:02 PM PDT
by
Vidalia
To: Vidalia
Don't let the CIA off the hook either.
They let Andres Strassmeir into the country.
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posted on
09/18/2002 7:00:28 PM PDT
by
JohnGalt
To: Boot Hill
" They continue to have access to weapons from the "evidence pile" inclusive of plastique explosives etc. which hundreds have used for personal use and financial gain."
I will recant this number of agents. Only the dirty bastards that we had to deal with used the stuff, and luckily we got to it before it got to us.
The rest is documented fact headed to the courts on the proper date.
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posted on
09/18/2002 7:02:25 PM PDT
by
Vidalia
To: Boot Hill
bump to comment later...
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posted on
09/18/2002 7:06:45 PM PDT
by
dcwusmc
To: Lurker
When I was in college you had to have either an accounting degree or a law degree to become an FBI agent. It seems to me they should return to that requirement. Along those lines, I'd like to see them eliminate their ability to arrest someone except in their protective capacity. To make any other kind of arrest, I'd disarm the federal agencies (FBI, BATF, etc.) and require them to give the local sheriff or state police the details and ask them to make the arrest. Such a policy would have eliminated the excitment at Ruby Ridge and Waco and made them non-events.
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posted on
09/18/2002 7:07:50 PM PDT
by
caltrop
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