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CATO INSTITUTE: CLINTON MORE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE THAN BUSH
The Cato Institute ^ | August 8th, 2002 | Veronique de Rugy

Posted on 08/15/2002 6:23:47 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid

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Who's the more fiscally conservative, Clinton or Bush?

by Veronique de Rugy

August 8, 2002

Veronique de Rugy is a fiscal policy analyst at the Cato Institute.

President Bush may be repeating the sins of his father. Although elected on a Reaganesque, tax-cutting platform, he has veered left. President Bush has signed a bill to regulate political speech, issued protectionist taxes on imported steel and lumber, backed big-spending education and farm bills, and endorsed massive new entitlements for mental-health care and prescription drugs. When the numbers are added up, in fact, it looks like President Bush is less conservative than President Clinton.

It makes little sense to discourage one's core supporters prior to a midterm election. Yet that is the result when a Republican president expands government, which Bush is doing. Also, academic research on voting patterns shows that a president is most likely to get re-elected if voters are enjoying an increase in disposable income. Yet making government bigger is not a recipe for economic growth. After all, there is a reason why Hong Kong grows so fast and France is an economic basket case. But you can't tell that to the Bush administration.

Administration officials privately admit that much of the legislation moving through Congress represents bad public policy. Yet they argue either that everything must take a back seat to the war on terror (much as the first Bush administration treated the war against Iraq) or that compromises are necessary to neutralize issues such as education. But motives and rationalizations do not repeal the laws of economics.

In less than two years, President Bush has presided over more government expansion than took place during eight years of Bill Clinton. For instance:

The education bill expands federal involvement in education. The administration originally argued that the new spending was a necessary price to get vouchers and other reforms. Yet the final bill boosted spending and was stripped of almost all reform initiatives. And there is every reason to believe that this new spending will be counter-productive, like most other federal money spent on education in the past 40 years. Children and taxpayers are the big losers.

The farm bill is best characterized as a bipartisan orgy of special interest politics. Making a mockery of the Freedom to Farm Act, the new legislation boosts farm spending to record levels. Old subsidies have been increased and new subsidies created. Perhaps worst of all, the administration no longer has the moral credibility to pressure the European Union to reform its socialized agricultural policies. Taxpayers and consumers are the big losers.

The protectionist decisions on steel and lumber imports make free traders wish Bill Clinton were still president. These restrictions on world commerce have undermined the productivity of U.S. manufacturers by boosting input prices and creating massive ill will in the international community. American products already have been targeted for reciprocal treatment. Consumers and manufacturers are the big losers.

The campaign finance law is an effort to protect the interests of incumbent politicians by limiting free-speech rights during elections. The administration openly acknowledged that the legislation is unconstitutional, yet was unwilling to make a principled argument for the Bill of Rights and fair elections. Voters and the Constitution are the big losers.

New health-care entitlements are akin to throwing gasoline on a fire. Medicare and Medicaid already are consuming enormous resources, and the burden of these programs will become even larger when the baby-boom generation retires. Adding a new prescription-drug benefit will probably boost spending by $1 trillion over 10 years. A mandate for mental-health coverage will drive up medical costs, making insurance too expensive for many more families.

These Bush policy decisions make government bigger and more expensive. They also slow the economy and hurt financial markets (seen the headlines lately?). For all his flaws, President Clinton's major policy mistake was the 1993 tax increase. Other changes, such as the welfare-reform bill, NAFTA, GATT, farm deregulation, telecommunications deregulation, and financial-services deregulation, moved policy in a market-oriented direction.

Perhaps most importantly, there was actually a reduction in federal spending as a share of gross domestic product during the Clinton years. Yet spending is headed up under the Bush administration.

To be sure, much of the credit for Clinton's good policy probably belongs to the Republican Congress, but that is not an excuse for bad policy today. And on one positive note, President Bush has "promised" to fight for partial privatization of Social Security. Yet, so far, President Bush has not vetoed a single piece of legislation. Needless to say, this means it will be rather difficult to blame "big-spending" Democrats if the economy continues to sputter.

This article originally appeared on National Review Online on August 8, 2002.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; cato; clinton; conservatism; losertarian; pork; spending
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1 posted on 08/15/2002 6:23:48 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Dear Cato Institute, who the hell do I vote for now?
2 posted on 08/15/2002 6:33:09 AM PDT by Howie
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To: That Subliminal Kid
They raise good points. Unfortunately they left out a huge part of the equation - the gutless wonders in Congress.
3 posted on 08/15/2002 6:39:54 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
Good point. Bush didn't write any of these spending bills, did he?

Mr.M

4 posted on 08/15/2002 6:45:58 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette
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To: Howie
Forget all those legislative and operational indiscretions. We need to remember that he's honest,has integrity, has an MBA and has brought civility back to the WH - that's all that's important for leader of the Party. After all he's got a 70+% approval rating - Why not? the Dems even approve of all these left leaning programs he's implemented.
5 posted on 08/15/2002 6:50:10 AM PDT by SEGUET
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Hello??? Only Congress can spend $. Clinton was restrained by the Republican House.
6 posted on 08/15/2002 6:55:08 AM PDT by widowithfoursons
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To: widowithfoursons
Do you think Reagan would have signed all that stuff into law?
7 posted on 08/15/2002 7:02:42 AM PDT by Howie
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To: widowithfoursons
So why haven't they restrained Bush?

I admit, I find this distressing. When I read the headline I thought, "Yeah, but we're in a war right now and that means more spending,". It looks like the Cato Institute controlled for that, though. Crud.
8 posted on 08/15/2002 7:04:55 AM PDT by flyervet
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To: That Subliminal Kid
It's all very sad, because it's true. In many ways, Bush the Second has been a tremendous disappointment to the Conservative cause. Sometimes I honestly wonder if he's any better than Gore would have been, at least economically speaking.
9 posted on 08/15/2002 7:05:33 AM PDT by WyldKard
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Reps PRETEND to be for limited government. Dems PRETEND to be for the common man. But, is anybody really surprised that both Reps and Dems favor BIG government of, by, and for their BIG contributors? Since they always get away with it, don't expect 'em to change.
10 posted on 08/15/2002 7:16:15 AM PDT by Deuce
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To: Marie Antoinette
Good point. Bush didn't write any of these spending bills, did he?

Mr.M

4 posted on 8/15/02 6:45 AM Pacific by Marie Antoinette

Actually he did. Remember his little confab with Teddy? Oh yeah, That Education budget came right out of the White House.

I beli eve the Administration also played a large part in crafting the Farm Bill also.

Nah, this spending spree is GW's. Pure and Simple.

11 posted on 08/15/2002 7:17:00 AM PDT by Area51
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To: That Subliminal Kid

CATO is comparing apples and oranges. Was there a 911 during Clinton years? Did Clinton inherit a mess after BUsh? I don't think SO!


12 posted on 08/15/2002 7:17:32 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Marie Antoinette
Oh God.

Are you saying Bush didn't WANT all this enormous spending, that he was FORCED to take it? (Ever hear of a veto?)

Bush is a borrow and spend Republican.

The article is right. Clinton ACTED more fiscally conservative than Bush is.
13 posted on 08/15/2002 7:18:11 AM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Marie Antoinette
Bush didn't write any of these spending bills, did he?

Can he spell V - E - T - O ?

14 posted on 08/15/2002 7:19:12 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: lavaroise
Yeah, we needed that disgusting farm and education bill (along with all that other social spending) as a result of 9-11.

Gimme a break.
15 posted on 08/15/2002 7:19:12 AM PDT by Guillermo
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To: WyldKard
For conservatives, a good case can be made that Gore would have been better, similar to 1993-1994 when people got so P.O.ed at Klinton that they elected a Pubbie (read: conservative at that time) Congress. But the lemmings at FR won't hold Bush's feet to the fire as they would have Gore, especially with respect to the Ashcroft's attempts to burn the BoR.
16 posted on 08/15/2002 7:20:32 AM PDT by jammer
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To: That Subliminal Kid
The Cato Inst may have a point here, I don't know. But they are so out to lunch on immigration issues that, for me anyway, they've lost all credibility.
17 posted on 08/15/2002 7:22:39 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: That Subliminal Kid
When the numbers are added up, in fact, it looks like President Bush is less conservative than President Clinton.

In fact, looks can be deceiving. I notice no mention of the largest tax increase in history implemented by Clinton almost immediately after being elected which in and of itself makes George Bush fiscally more conservative than Clinton for all time. I notice no mention of the selective application of tariffs on steel and lumber which in effect makes exemption easier to get than a divorce in the Dominican Republic. The Cato institutes conclusion is absolute BS.

18 posted on 08/15/2002 7:31:01 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: lavaroise
Posting in large font, alas, doesn't make it so. Some actions occurred prior to 9/11, for example. Others are irrelevent to 9/11.

I don't think the using the horror of 9/11 to excuse everything Bush does, or doesn't do, is a good idea.

19 posted on 08/15/2002 7:37:19 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: skeeter
The Cato Inst may have a point here, I don't know. But they are so out to lunch on immigration issues that, for me anyway, they've lost all credibility.

I believe we do better to address the arguments rather than their source.

20 posted on 08/15/2002 7:39:01 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: Guillermo
Excuse me if I still do not buy the Clinton Bush comparison. Clinton's impeachment and hypocrisy in the WhiteHouse are enough of a fiscal incompetence, heck, it's outright fraud and jurisdictional abuse of powers. So to lay the full blame on Bush for bills as opposed to a congress and various lobbies, it is pretty unfair.
21 posted on 08/15/2002 7:40:12 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: widowithfoursons
Clinton was restrained by the Republican House.

So why hasn't Bush been restrained by a Republican House??? Face it, Bush is not even close to being a fiscal conservative. Exhibit A is that they he does not have a single supply-sider on his entire economic team. Of course, we knew all of this before the election so it shouldn't be a surprise.

22 posted on 08/15/2002 7:43:02 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: lavaroise
So economic freedom and responsibility and principles of liberty should be ignored in times of war? Oh, I'm sorry, since I am against this I must be for the terrorists...I forgot.
23 posted on 08/15/2002 7:45:13 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: That Subliminal Kid
These findings are not surprising in the least. The Republican Party plays the role of Palace Eunuch--to the Democrat Party's Caliph.

Palace Eunuchs, pranksters all--giggling among themselves--can, occassionally, spoil some of the Caliph's grand designs.

But if, by some strange palace intrigue, they should find themselves sitting in the Caliph's throne----well---you know they are still eunuchs and therefore cannot create anything---much less a social, economic or political revolution.

So they continue the Caliph's practices, keeping the Caliph's throne warm until the new Caliph arrives and relieves them of the responsibility for which they are physically and psychologically unsuited.

Then, the Eunuch goes back to what he does best---whispering bits of gossip along the long corridors of power; flirting with the harem; playing pranks on the Caliph until that Caliph eventually dies of a stroke and the Eunuch has to nervously perch on the throne for a few years until a new Caliph arrives who can get it up.

24 posted on 08/15/2002 7:45:46 AM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: lavaroise
Yep, Bush was forced to sign those bills, kicking and screaming the entire way.
25 posted on 08/15/2002 7:46:24 AM PDT by Guillermo
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To: lavaroise
So to lay the full blame on Bush for bills as opposed to a congress and various lobbies, it is pretty unfair

He does not deserve "full blame" but he deserves a whole lot.

26 posted on 08/15/2002 7:48:57 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
I'll settle for that.
27 posted on 08/15/2002 7:53:14 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Guillermo
Yep, Bush was forced to sign those bills, kicking and screaming the entire way.

It's called laissez faire capitalism :-) LOL!!!

28 posted on 08/15/2002 7:53:45 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: WyldKard
"In many ways, Bush the Second has been a tremendous disappointment to the Conservative cause. Sometimes I honestly wonder if he's any better than Gore would have been..."

Then you must be a retard.
29 posted on 08/15/2002 7:55:41 AM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: plain talk
But bush could have vetoed. Additionally, what about our cowardly backpeddling on the ICC?
30 posted on 08/15/2002 7:56:56 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: RJCogburn
I believe we do better to address the arguments rather than their source.

I see nothing wrong with noting a source's ulterior motives. Something I dearly wish my party did more of.

31 posted on 08/15/2002 7:59:48 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Hell, I'm sure the terrorists love our farmers starving, but that is beyond the point. Comparing Clinton to Bush is naive to the utmost.
32 posted on 08/15/2002 8:01:14 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: RJCogburn
I believe we do better to address the arguments rather than their source.

Why that's very liberal of you. It sounds almost like the Congrossional (and I do mean gross) Democrats screaming for investigations because of the seriousness of the allegations an ignoring the simple fact there is no evidence to siupport the allegations.

33 posted on 08/15/2002 8:37:26 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: Howie
Do you think Reagan would have signed all that stuff into law?

From what I have read, he did sign some of these things into law and got the same grief Bush is for doing so.
President's cannot govern solely from one side of the spectrum no matter what anyone thinks. They represent the country not just one party entirely, plus there is congress to contend with.

34 posted on 08/15/2002 8:41:29 AM PDT by ladyinred
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Then you must be a retard.

Wow..what a stunning defense of the Socialist actions of your favorite President! Don't blame me because Bush is turning into such a Big Government tool...
35 posted on 08/15/2002 9:21:40 AM PDT by WyldKard
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To: ladyinred
President's cannot govern solely from one side of the spectrum no matter what anyone thinks

True enough. But while we can understand the motivation, we also ought to be willing to clearly say that what he signed was a bad idea. Otherwise, how can we ever hope to lessen the number of bad ideas that get passed?

I'll say it. These were bad ideas. They had been better not signed. How about you?

36 posted on 08/15/2002 9:21:58 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: hflynn
Why that's very liberal of you.

Thanks...I'll take that as meant in the older defintion of "liberal".

37 posted on 08/15/2002 9:23:20 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: Howie
Do you think Reagan would have signed all that stuff into law?

No, I don't.

38 posted on 08/15/2002 9:29:43 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: lavaroise
Okay - tell me where Bush is more conservative fiscally than Clinton based solely on what they signed? Removing Clinton from the equation, how is Bush an economic conservative at all?
39 posted on 08/15/2002 9:31:41 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: flyervet
When I read the headline I thought, "Yeah, but we're in a war right now and that means more spending,"

It should mean more military spending, not spending on education, prescription drugs, and mental health care.

40 posted on 08/15/2002 9:34:42 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jack-A-Roe
Yep, you're absolutely spot-on.
41 posted on 08/15/2002 9:38:54 AM PDT by flyervet
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To: Wyatt's Torch
He is not really conservative no. It's more like a conservative who has a case of fright with the left, and who, well, seeing that laissez faire is not working, is looking for a Messiah of sorts, new ideas and stuff.

THe guy is not very focused and needs a good spanking.

42 posted on 08/15/2002 9:40:53 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
If your post was not "tongue-in-cheek" then I agree whole-heartedly. I have been extrememly disappointed with all the token tax reform ideas that have been floated. Meaningless. Someone in his inner circle needs to come up a with a "big-idea" on the economic front and he needs to pull a Reagan and go directly to the American people to sell it so much that Daschle has no choice but to pass it. He needs to do this now as it is getting to late in the election cycle and the Pubbies are going to lose the House if the economy doesn't improve. If that happens, he's just about toast in '04.
43 posted on 08/15/2002 9:46:08 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: That Subliminal Kid
I don't think comparing bush to clifton is really fair.

bush's big government socialist spending stands on it's own as wrong.

From inside the fiscally conservative camp, our president and the gop have left the building.

I can hardly wait to see what happens to our paychecks once our military invades iraq........

thats going to cost hundreds of billions for years to come.

Ron Paul in 2004

44 posted on 08/15/2002 9:56:09 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: SEGUET
Sorry, honesty and integrity only goes so far. I cannot sit back and look in awe at Bush's honesty as he enacts a left-wint agenda. And anyway, how much honesty and integrity does it take to sell out nearly every idea on which he campaigned?
45 posted on 08/15/2002 10:02:29 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: lavaroise
Yes. The farm bill was a natural outcome of 9-11. Apples and oranges indeed.
46 posted on 08/15/2002 10:03:12 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Wyatt's Torch; All
Did you by chance hear his speech today ...... from Mt. Rushmore .... with Daschle in the audience?

He talked about the extra $5 billion tacked onto the supplemental bill ..... he was forced in this bill to spend all of the $5 billion or none of it ..... he stated emphatically the other day that his message was to spend none of it.

Check out this link ...... Bush won't budge on deficit

Several quotes from the article ......

President Bush went to the heartland yesterday to repeat the challenge he laid down for Congress to restrain deficit spending and move quickly to aid the war on terrorism.

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In the war against terrorism, Mr. Bush said he wants the Senate and House quickly to resolve their differences over two versions of a bill to provide "a significant increase in defense appropriations."

Bush also says repeatedly (including during the speech today) that the money spent in Washington is not the government's money ..... it's the people's money. And he gave us the largest tax cut in decades. His predecessor said that he didn't want to give a tax cut because he didn't trust us to spend our own money wisely ...... instead, he gave us a huge tax increase.

Re the Education Bill, one fact often overlooked is that it gives much more control over the money to those on the state and local level. While there are many aspects of the bill that I'm not particularly happy with, it's at least a step in the right direction. It also leaves the door open for the approval of vouchers ...... but we must get a Republican majority in the Senate and keep the one in the House for that to happen.

In his speech today he also spoke strongly in favor of becoming less dependent on foreign oil (think ANWR), of common-sense forest management, of the creation of the new Homeland Security Department, and other things that Daschle opposes ...... right in his face on his own turf!

47 posted on 08/15/2002 10:41:29 AM PDT by kayak
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To: plain talk
Bush apologists don't help the cause.
48 posted on 08/15/2002 10:43:20 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: skeeter
Remember that the CATO institute is basically a 'Globalism' think tank. Probably funded by multi-national corps. to boot.

Small wonder they prefer Clinton.
49 posted on 08/15/2002 11:12:56 AM PDT by Thisiswhoweare
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Yep, Dubya isn't the Conservative that the right had hoped for.
50 posted on 08/15/2002 11:26:50 AM PDT by RightWinger
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