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Feds Nab Seven In Wisconsin With illegal Visas From Qatar Embassy (3 knew 9/11 hijackers)
WKOW-TV Madison/ AP ^ | July 12, 2002

Posted on 07/12/2002 10:03:45 PM PDT by Shermy

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To: *TerrOrWar; *JIHAD IN AMERICA
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41 posted on 07/12/2002 11:18:59 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: RCW2001
Let`s be fair, these guys were caught. Lots more have been stopped. We are beating them and its going to get harder for these scumbags everyday. Of course, we can`t stop every nut, every time, but GWB and the boys have put a serious hurt on the bad guys.

None of us really know what is going on in the State Dept., but, so far, what have they done wrong? Watch the movie folks, not the snapshots

42 posted on 07/12/2002 11:25:26 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: Shermy
Interesting point about this letter to the editor and it's "Author's Name"

Robert McManus is a (Alaskan) humor writer the guy lives in Fairbanks Alaska. Makes you kind of wonder.

43 posted on 07/12/2002 11:28:52 PM PDT by Rocketman
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To: bybybill
Watch the movie folks, not the snapshots

Well, I guess it is fun to react. To be fair, I will admit that my first thought on reading that some of them were being released is that they will most probably (and hopefully) be followed by a tail that happens to work for an agency known by its 3 letter acronym, starting with an F and ending with an I. All too often, we expect to know about what is really going on when in rality, we don't. I think a lot of the administration's public PC posturing is necessary, but in reality cannot possibly be complete picture.

44 posted on 07/12/2002 11:35:38 PM PDT by bluefish
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To: Shermy
US links three phony visa men with hijackers

RECORDS AT US EMBASSY IN DOHA ‘TAMPERED WITH’

By Warren P Strobel and Cassio Furtado

WASHINGTON: Three men who allegedly bought visas at the US embassy in Qatar have links with September 11 hijackers, federal authorities have said.

The news came after a top Washington official resigned in the wake of the scandal that allowed at least 70 people to slip into the US illegally.

On Thursday, Secretary of State Colin Powell defended his department’s Bureau of Consular Affairs but conceded there had been mistakes that made it easier for September 11 hijackers to enter the United States.

Powell’s admission, before the House Select Committee on Homeland Security, came one day after he accepted the resignation of Assistant Secretary Mary Ryan, the bureau’s chief, though he denied to the press that her departure had “anything to do” with events in Qatar.

In a newspaper interview in November, Ryan had warned that her officials were “stretched just about as thin as they can possibly be. We do not have the personnel resources that we need to do the job the way it should be done.”

Investigators are now studying whether some corrupt officials at the embassy in Doha unwittingly helped Al Qaeda to carry out the September 11 attacks. It was already known that many of the hijackers skirted safeguards in the State Department’s visa issuance rules to get into the United States.

“The focus of our investigation ... has been national security” and “whether or not terrorists used this scheme (in Qatar)” to help plan attacks on the United States, a senior State Department official said.

Powell told the homeland security committee that consular services had had “problems from time to time,” but he added that “since September 11, we’ve done a lot to tighten up our system.”

The main improvement, Powell said, was to more than double the size of intelligence databases available to State Department’s 1,995 visa applicant screeners at more than 200 posts worldwide. Those screeners reviewed more than 10mn applicants last year, approving about 7.5mn for papers that enabled foreigners to enter the United States legally.

Officials originally thought they were dealing with a visa fraud, which is not unusual. The case leaped to national importance when Rasmi Subhi Salah al-Shannaq, one of the alleged visa buyers, admitted to FBI agents on June 24 that he had roomed with hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi and Hani Hanjour in a three-bedroom apartment in Northern Virginia.

Al-Shannaq had denied knowing the hijackers in his initial FBI interview on January 22.

At a pre-trial hearing in Baltimore on Wednesday, Assistant US Attorney Harvey Eisenberg acknowledged that the government had no evidence to link al-Shannaq criminally to the two hijackers. According to Eisenberg, al-Shannaq had sought and failed to obtain a US visa using four other passports, including one that had a different number and two others with different birth dates.

Eisenberg said the Justice Department “was still looking for them” and did not know whether the passports had been used for travel.

The only trips al-Shannaq made with his current passport were from Jordan to Qatar and to the United States, Eisenberg said.

According to State Department officials, al-Shannaq’s improper visa cost $10,000.

Eisenberg and the officials said two other individuals who obtained phony visas from the US embassy in Qatar also shared an apartment with hijackers Alhazmi and Hanjour.

One of them, Ahmed Ahmad, was in detention, according to law enforcement officials. The identity of the third man was not disclosed, but the officials said he was at large.

Al-Shannaq’s lawyer, Jim Wyda, said that al-Shannaq lived in one room of a three-bedroom Northern Virginia apartment, while the two hijackers lived in another room. He had “no significant relationship” with them, Wyda said.

While Eisenberg admitted he could not link al-Shannaq to criminal activities of the hijackers, he added, “I don’t know that they (the hijackers) stayed with any non-hijackers for any length of time.”

“These 19 ... stuck to themselves,” he said.

Unimpressed, US Magistrate Susan Gauvey ordered al-Shannaq released on $434,000 bail. “He cannot be guilty by association,” she said. The government immediately appealed, but a federal district judge on Wednesday afternoon upheld Gauvey’s ruling.

Al-Shannaq was not released, however, but was turned over to the Immigration and Naturalisation Service to face a related charge that he had overstayed his visa.

All told, visas were issued improperly from the US embassy in Qatar to at least 38 Jordanian citizens and 28 Pakistanis, as well as citizens of Bangladesh and Syria, State Department officials said.

The FBI has taken 31 into custody and is still looking for 29 individuals, the officials said. Five are children or spouses of improper visa holders, they said, and the remainder have left the country.

The visa fraud case began in November, when federal authorities received a tip alleging that al-Shannaq had fraudulently purchased a visa in Qatar, officials said.

“We don’t know exactly how it was accomplished,” a State Department official said. “The system has a lot of safeguards and checks in it.”

He said there was evidence that records at the embassy in Qatar were tampered with to cover up evidence of the fraud, which authorities say occurred between July 2000 and May 2001.

Authorities have questioned current and former embassy employees, but no charges have been filed or administrative action taken against US citizens, State Department officials said.

A US consular officer’s approval is required for any visa to be issued, officials said. The signatures of three different officers appeared on one or more improperly issued visas but that did not mean they were aware of the fraud, the officials said.

A Jordanian citizen who was employed by the embassy and resigned in June 2001 is co-operating as a witness, though that person did not work in the embassy’s consular section.

A State Department spokesman said investigators were performing checks at all US posts overseas to ensure that the same type of fraud did not occur elsewhere.

Powell told lawmakers he backed major changes that would give oversight of US visa policies to the proposed Department of Homeland Security. He insisted, however, that the State Department’s consular officials must continue to operate the system.

“We have the experience, the training, the language skills and the dedicated people,” he told lawmakers.

Homeland Security personnel would have authority to investigate visa applicants, train visa screeners and reject applicants suspected of links to terrorism, under an administration proposal that the House is expected to endorse as early as next week.

The sharpest critic of the State Department’s visa handling, Representative James Sensenbrenner, who is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, had proposed that responsibility for issuing visas be turned over to the new department. That failed by an 18-15 vote on Wednesday in the House International Relations Committee. - KRT

45 posted on 07/12/2002 11:39:31 PM PDT by stilts
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To: bluefish
The seven are part of a larger group of foreigners from Jordan, Pakistan, Syria and Bangladesh suspected to have paid at least $10,000 each to an employee at the U.S. Embassy in Qatar between April 2000 and July 2001. Authorities said in exchange they received six-month visas without security screening or U.S. government authorization.

Three of the[larger] group are believed to have lived with the Sept. 11 hijackers.

GET IT?

46 posted on 07/12/2002 11:54:47 PM PDT by jonathonandjennifer
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To: Shermy
UFB!

The "blonde" is not "snarling", she's obviously rearing back and going "UGH!" as the islamobitch moves in on her. Can't see the burqaslut's hands but I suspect they're clutching the poor American's lower parts.

UFB!

One or two more faces like that and we're gonna be inundated with burqa-joke counterparts to the "why do lawyers wear neckties?" joke.
47 posted on 07/12/2002 11:58:20 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Brad's Gramma
Clearly, this moslem is as ignorant of the fundamentals of hygiene as the rest of her people.
48 posted on 07/13/2002 12:10:29 AM PDT by neutrino
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To: Brad's Gramma; Orion78; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; mancini; Crazymonarch; ...
Compare here:  Communists and Islamic Extremists - Then and Now
"They [the Soviets] intend...to induce the Americans to adopt their own 'restructuring' and convergence of the Soviet and American systems using to this end the fear of nuclear conflict.... Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States. The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the American system during the depression."  ...Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990.
Mt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Islam means "submit or we'll kill you," their Koran tells them so.  Without strong leadership which chooses the God of Jews and Christians instead of the god of Muslims (Allah = Satan) or the middle ground about to be spewed out, America will be forced to submit to the Islamic invasion and takeover by the demon-possessed Islamics.  The picture above is merely one altercation along the way.  If the blonde does not submit now, she may be one who they intend to re-educate later on along the lines of Anatoliy Golitsyn's statement above or simply rape and murder as they have done elsewhere.  The Muslims hate red, white and blue and intend to have the colors of the U.S. be white, red, black and green -- the colors of the four horsemen and the Arab Coalition.

Monsanto's colors on Round-Up Renew are the same colors as the flag of that murderer Arafat.  The same colors as the four horses of Revelation 6:1-8.  See post #65 by Thinkin' Gal and the link there explaining the colors:  Pan-Arab Colours [same as four horses]

[Arab Revolt Flag]

Repent hard, the Day of the Lord and of great tribulation is at hand.

49 posted on 07/13/2002 1:55:12 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Shermy
FROM A PRIOR THREAD: Please click here and read post #32 from a prior discussion on a different subject: "To: spycatcher I did a Google search on 3 of the suspect names, if indeed those are the real names. Anyway, 2 of the suspects came back with zip, nada. However, one name, Jadallah Abdallah did produce 2 Google hits: Searched the web for "Jadallah Abdallah".  Results 1 - 2 of 2. Search took 0.05 seconds. Tip: In most browsers you can just hit the return key instead of clicking on the search button. Untitled ... HASAN IBRAHIM AKRAA SYRIAN AHMAD HASAN MAHMOUD ASHRIM JORDANIAN AHMAD HUSEIN SHAWAKH SYRIAN AHMAD IMADEDDIN MAHMOUD MOHAMAD EGYPTIAN AHMAD JADALLAH ABDALLAH ... www.bau.edu.lb/bau/Alumni/Law/law88.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages IDS Prime Business Corral: Government Fairfax County Small Claims ... Judgment for plaintiff, S1999-000358 Debt, Jadallah, Abdallah, Moving USA, Judgment by ex-parte proof, Court Date: 5/21/1999. Case File NBR ... www.idscorral.com/corgovfs9.shtml - 48k - Cached - Similar pages" 32 posted on 7/10/02 1:11 AM Pacific by Cindy [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]



NOW, let's do a little more Google research and check the name AHMAD ATIA:

Did you mean: "Ahmad Attia"   Untitled ... MANSOUR KHALED JORDANIAN SUAD HAMED ABDEL FATTAH SALAM EGYPTIAN TURKI MOHAMAD ZAMEL HUJEIR PALESTINIAN WALID TOUFIC OMRAN DAKKAK JORDANIAN YOUSEF AHMAD ATIA ... www.bau.edu.lb/bau/Alumni/Commerce/account67.html - 6k - Cached - Similar pages Untitled ... ABDEL AZIZ JAMEH BAHRAINI ABDEL RAZEK HASAN ABDEL RAZEK SALEH SUDANESE ABDEL WAHAB MOHAMAD ADAM SUDANESE AHMAD SALEH ALI SHAMI YEMEN ATIA MOHAMAD AHMAD ATIA ... www.bau.edu.lb/bau/Alumni/Commerce/economics86.html - 3k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.bau.edu.lb ] In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 2 already displayed. If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included. Did you mean to search for: "Ahmad Attia"  

Anyway, long story short, I don't know if these search results actually match the suspects in custody. What we do know though, is that both suspect NAMES have this in common: "www.bau.edu.lb/bau/Alumni." It could just be a coincidence, but who knows?

50 posted on 07/13/2002 2:11:54 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Brad's Gramma
I would love to see the original caption. Can you tell me where the photo is?
51 posted on 07/13/2002 2:15:18 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Presidential notebook: Protesters rally against president






Published Jul 12, 2002

About 300 protesters, many carrying antiwar signs, rallied outside Target Center in a boisterous demonstration to express their opposition to President Bush's military policies in Afghanistan.

There also were abortion-rights supporters, critical of Bush's views, and environmentalists who accused Bush and U.S. Senate candidate Norm Coleman of taking contributions from corporate polluters.

"Put an end to endless war," a sign read. "Money for housing not war," read another.

Jessica Sundin, a spokeswoman for the Antiwar Committee, a main sponsor of the protest, said the demonstration was called on two days' notice and reflected growing dismay with Bush's war efforts and restrictions of civil liberties at home under Attorney General John Ashcroft.

As Bush supporters left Target Center shortly before 7 p.m., some of them waved small American flags and screamed at protesters. "I hate them all," said Katie El-Die, 22.

About 40 police officers, including six on horses, stood between the demonstrators and Target Center at 7th St. and 1st Av. N. At 7 p.m., the crowd had dwindled. There were no arrests.

Gary DeVaan, a Web designer from Chanhassen, was strictly a freelance protester, unaffiliated with any of the anarchists, environmentalists and pacifists. "Bush Cheated" his T-shirt declared. He carried two signs: "Selected, Not Elected" and "Appoint a special prosecutor."

Said DeVaan: "He has run this country into the ground in a second. We had prosperity, reasonably good times -- and look what we've got now. I'm not with any of these left-wing groups -- I'm just disgusted with everything this guy represents."
52 posted on 07/13/2002 2:28:50 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Shermy
I'm going to blockade I-43.
53 posted on 07/13/2002 3:33:17 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Shermy
>Ahmad Abed Atia

Mohammed Atta. Do these clowns all have the same name?

54 posted on 07/13/2002 5:23:24 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: RCW2001
Agreed...but it shouldn't stop there. IRS, Treasury, Federal Reserve, etc. ... full feldged purging of the 'ranks'. Top to bottom.

Never happen. Last time someone (McCarthy) tried something similar, exposing active communists, he got crucified.

The federal government isn't a case of a few bad apples in the barrel, it is a case of a few good apples in a barrel full of bad ones.

55 posted on 07/13/2002 5:42:16 AM PDT by varon
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To: bluefish
Hey, easy with the tough math.

This reporter probably flunked new math while in school.

Only a mean conservative would want someone to do tough math like this and get it right:

-Six of the seven don't appear to have terrorist ties...

-Three of the group are believed to have lived with the Sept. 11 hijackers.

Or this PC/Diversity reporter was trained by the LA Slimes/NY Slime/Reuters where there are never any terrorists or terrorism by individuals or countries. Therefore, they would not have any connections with terrorism even if they live the noble hijackers.
56 posted on 07/13/2002 6:26:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Brad's Gramma
Way to go Blonde American Babe. Stick your flag up the nose of this critter and then use your feet on her clymer!

Gramma thanks for posting this great picture!
57 posted on 07/13/2002 6:29:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Shermy
He, also, is never mentioned as the son of a retired Egyptian General and that his family went back to Egypt in June before his hate crime activity at El Al in LAX.
58 posted on 07/13/2002 6:30:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Shermy; Brad's Gramma; All
Just a little tie with this event: ( Oregon sheriff: 'We had our suspicions' (al-Qaida in Oregon) )
59 posted on 07/13/2002 6:38:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Shermy
"Six of the seven don't appear to have terrorist ties", said Assistant u.S. Attorney Francis D. Schmitz.

There not supposed to appear to be terrorists until they're shoving a box cutter against your jugular or blasting innocents at an airline ticket counter.

Get 'em out my country, sonovabeech lawyer.

60 posted on 07/13/2002 6:40:17 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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