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Andersen video puts Cheney on spot
BBC News ^ | Wednesday, 10 July, 2002, 14:49 GMT

Posted on 07/10/2002 9:36:48 AM PDT by HAL9000

It has emerged in the United States that Vice-President Dick Cheney took part in a promotional video for the disgraced accounting firm Andersen.

The news came just before an anti-corruption pressure group filed a lawsuit against Mr Cheney, alleging fraudulent accounting practices.

In the video Mr Cheney - then Chief Executive of the oil company Halliburton - describes how Andersen gave advice "over and above" what would normally be expected from auditors.

Last month, the firm was convicted of obstructing justice by shredding documents relating to the failed US energy giant Enron.

On Tuesday President George W Bush tried to distance himself from corporate fraud, proposing tougher penalties as a way of restoring confidence in the wake of recent business scandals that have shaken the US.

'Good advice'

The Andersen video, obtained by the Wall St Journal newspaper, is a further embarrassment for President Bush's administration.

Correspondents say its business connections are fast becoming a serious liability.

The video was recorded in 1996.

"I get good advice, if you will, from their people based upon how we're doing business and how we're operating over and above the just sort of normal by-the-book auditing arrangement," Mr Cheney says in a short section of the video.

Andersen's reputation has been destroyed in recent weeks after it emerged that it had destroyed documents for the Enron energy giant.

Enron has admitted to grossly exaggerating its profits to attract investors.

'Share overvaluation'

In a separate development, pressure group Judicial Watch, says Mr Cheney deceived investors while he was a director of the Halliburton oil company in the 1990s.

In its lawsuit, filed in Miami, Florida, on Wednesday, the organisation alleges Mr Cheney and Halliburton engaged in practices which led to the overvaluation of the company's shares.

"Halliburton overstated profits that many American citizens relied upon," Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch told reporters.

"That's fraudulent security practices and it resulted in those Americans suffering huge losses."

In Washington White House spokesman Ari Fleischer appeared dismissive of the case.

He said officials in Mr Cheney's "believe the suit is without merit, and that's where it stands," he said.

Earlier, a Halliburton spokeswoman also said the case had no substance.

Harsher punishments

In a speech in New York's financial district on Tuesday, President Bush said he wanted to tighten measures against corporate fraud.

He announced a doubling - to 10 years - of the maximum prison sentence, and the formation of a special investigative task force.

But Judicial Watch said that Mr Bush's rush to crack down on corporate fraud seemed intended to deflect attention away from his and Mr Cheney's own business practices.

Mr Bush has already faced questions about his work as a director of Texas-based Harken Energy Corp a decade ago, when the firm faced an inquiry for masking huge losses.



TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andersen; cheney; dnchypocrites

1 posted on 07/10/2002 9:36:49 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
Business = 'Evil'

If the socialists can get that to stick in the minds of the public, they can do whatever they want.

2 posted on 07/10/2002 9:40:20 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
The Marxists at the BBC have come to the conclusion that all Arthur Andersen accountants are crooks, rather than the few that destroyed a great company.
3 posted on 07/10/2002 9:44:07 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: HAL9000
I have it on excellent authority that all of the management at Anderson regularly consumed Coca Cola, and often coffee as well.

This is yet another blow to the once mighty soft drink manufacturer, who is still reeling from their disasterous introduction of "New Coke".

Company spokesmen declined to make any statement.

4 posted on 07/10/2002 9:45:37 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: HAL9000
Judicial Watch never got this much publicity for their Clinton lawsuits.
5 posted on 07/10/2002 9:46:32 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: HAL9000
Memo To: The Bush White House
From: Olde
Subject: "Setting a new tone in Washington"

It ain't gonna happen. Take the gloves of fer cryin' out loud!

Sincerely,

Olde
6 posted on 07/10/2002 9:53:35 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: HAL9000
The Democratic Party's private detectives have been busy lately, I see.
7 posted on 07/10/2002 9:54:03 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: HAL9000
Three months ago, everyone thought that AA was about the greatest firm in the world, a great place to work, a great reputation, etc. So Cheney touts them in a video in 1996. Hell, I've touted them to my job-seeking students for years!

The left is soooooooo transparent

8 posted on 07/10/2002 9:57:22 AM PDT by zook
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To: RiShi
Cheney ought to give a press conference or two, and soon. His presence is very calming. It'll all blow over.

I agree.

10 posted on 07/10/2002 10:01:16 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: HAL9000
It has emerged in the United States that 3 former DNC spinmeisters, and former White House staffers, have engaged in advertising and promotional activities for Andersen. While it remains to be seen whether the hypocritical left leaning media will pick up both sides of the story, it nevertheless deflates their trial balloon of "guilt by association". Take that, @ssholes!

Joe Lockhart's Glover Park Ad Agency: Glover Park Group's website

11 posted on 07/10/2002 10:02:39 AM PDT by jumpstartme
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To: HAL9000
News of this video came out 3 or 4 months ago. Old news. Big companies put together customer testimonials for employee pep rallies all the time. Big deal!
12 posted on 07/10/2002 10:21:02 AM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: Illbay
"Business = 'Evil'"

I don't think this is the message. It is corruption in business...which is rampant in America today....that is evil. Business, if done ethically is wonderfull. What is happening to our economy, because of corporate and political fraud, is tantamount to terrorism. The effect on America will be worse than a few worn out threats from Osama.

13 posted on 07/10/2002 10:32:16 AM PDT by hove
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To: Semper Paratus
Yeah, I was thinking how much more publicity Judicial Watch got with this lawsuit.

Well, it's more proof that what Judicial Watch really wants is publicity to get fund-raising dollars. I think it's scandalous that it's suing Cheney. I don't think it's a good thing to do from a conservative perspective.

I don't trust Judicial Watch, as I guess I've said often in posts here.
14 posted on 07/10/2002 10:38:16 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: jumpstartme; Alamo-Girl; diotima; TheRightGuy; usconservative; justshutupandtakeit; BillyBoy; ...
It has emerged in the United States that 3 former DNC spinmeisters, and former White House staffers, have engaged in advertising and promotional activities for Andersen.

This needs a Downside-Legacy bump...(see link in jumpstartme's post)

15 posted on 07/10/2002 10:46:56 AM PDT by RedWing9
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To: FreedominJesusChrist; Registered
I hate to say this, but the Dims every week are succeeding in their campaign of creating a "wedge issue" of corporate corruption to bash the pubbies with.

The lamestream media are their willing lapdogs of course.
16 posted on 07/10/2002 10:49:47 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: HAL9000
How dare you post this "hit-piece"!!!!


;-)
17 posted on 07/10/2002 10:51:35 AM PDT by Registered
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To: RedWing9
Aha! Thank you for the heads up!
18 posted on 07/10/2002 10:54:20 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: HAL9000
The Andersen video, obtained by the Wall St Journal...

Oh Noooooooo, the Journal is now in on this Axis-of-Evil diabolical plan against Bush!
19 posted on 07/10/2002 10:54:39 AM PDT by Registered
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To: HAL9000
This could backfire if the Dems try to use it. Until the Enron scandal broke, Arthur Anderson was a respected company in its field and no one - including Dick Cheney - had any reason to believe otherwise. This reminds me of when my dad found out that former WA governor Dan Evans (Republican) had once written a letter of recommendation for Ted Bundy for some government job. My dad (a Democrat) acted as if this somehow constituted an endorsement of Bundy's later actions. At the time Evans wrote the letter, Bundy was generally regarded as a bright, up-and-coming law student, and was a volunteer at a local crisis clinic.
20 posted on 07/10/2002 10:55:52 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Registered
How dare you post this "hit-piece"!!!!

Hey, at least I didn't post the article about the promotional video Jenna did for Enron.

21 posted on 07/10/2002 11:03:34 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
LOL.
22 posted on 07/10/2002 11:04:33 AM PDT by Registered
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To: RedWing9
Thanks for the bump. Just wanted to point out their hypocrisy- again...
23 posted on 07/10/2002 11:12:51 AM PDT by jumpstartme
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To: HAL9000
Sooooo

Was Author Anderson 'DISGRACED' before or after the video.

Why after, you answer. hmmmm. Time warp problem, Mr. Scotty. When can you get it fixed?

All Dump-o-craps and their lefty associates should come standard with a flush lever.

tarpon

24 posted on 07/10/2002 11:15:44 AM PDT by snooker
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To: hove
"corruption in business..is rampant in America today"

Right...and, child molesting is rampant among catholics, money grubbing is rampant among Jews, buggy-whipping slaves is rampant among southenours, wife beating is rampant among husbands, and starving children is rampant among Republicans.

As an executive in corporate business, your statement is accepted as an insult.

Get a real job.

25 posted on 07/10/2002 11:24:28 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: HAL9000
The problem for the Democrats trying to get some traction from this, is that the voters who might actually be swayed to vote Democrat by this factiod are too un-informed (un-literate)to know who dick Cheney is.
26 posted on 07/10/2002 11:31:59 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: hove
It is corruption in business...which is rampant in America today....that is evil.

YOU know this, and I know this. But the Left always counts on the ignorance and suggestibility of the average American to score points.

You know they can't pull it off among those who actually bother to learn facts.

27 posted on 07/10/2002 11:40:34 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: HAL9000
The implication being that Cheney should not have done this video in 1996 because he should have known that Andersen was an evil organization.

So I guess the question is...

"What did the Democrats know and when did they know it?"

28 posted on 07/10/2002 11:46:35 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: laotzu; hove
"As an executive in corporate business, your statement is accepted as an insult."

AMEN!

29 posted on 07/10/2002 2:29:41 PM PDT by harpu
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To: laotzu
"As an executive in corporate business, your statement is accepted as an insult. Get a real job.

It seems I have struck a nerve huh? Why.....am I hitting close to home? I believe that you may be honest...hard working...and ethical. However, you cannot deny that many corporate executives have been lying and cheating make it appear as though their companies are doing better than they really are. And that because they know the score, they cash out and parachute to safety. And they leave the stock holders...employees...and our nation...holding the bag. And you cannot deny that this is probably the tip of the iceberg, and is having an extremely negative affect on the economy as a whole. Just look at the markets for cripes sake! If you are one of the executives that I am talking about, then my post is meant as an insult. If you are not....then I am not talking about you. By the way, I don't just work for a corporation, I own one.

30 posted on 07/10/2002 5:31:17 PM PDT by hove
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To: HAL9000
Oh horrors!

The RAts are on a roll aren't they?
They have managed to demonize business in this country to the point that anyone with a job must be Satan.
All in the name of politics. They are evil personified.
31 posted on 07/10/2002 5:33:47 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: hove
"I don't just work for a corporation, I own one"

Of course, I cannot speak for the business crowd that you have chosen to run with, but; the overwhelming majority of my competitors (and peers) are honest, honorable, and admirable business people.

This, of course, begs the question: What business is it that you are in that paints a picture of "rampant" corruption to you? Is this "rampant" corruption evident in your office as well, or are you merely repeating assertions gleaned from Dan Rather?

32 posted on 07/11/2002 6:55:57 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: HAL9000
I think all this dumping on AA has gone too far. Frankly, I think destroying the entire company without naming any individuals is despicable. Some 30,000 people used to work for AA. I seriuosly doubt that all 30,000 people are crooks. And this constant harping on AA without hardly mentioning the crooks at Enron, WorldCom, GlobalCrossing, etc. is ludicrous.

No wonder Wall Street is worried. The Feds destroyed an entire company because they had some bad apples - and possibly many of them at the top - because it was the politically expedient thing to do. This should be an outrage not a cause for celebration.

33 posted on 07/11/2002 7:04:07 AM PDT by Wphile
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To: FreeTheHostages
Yeah, I was thinking how much more publicity Judicial Watch got with this lawsuit.

Obviously the increase in their publicity comes from the transformation of Klayman and JW from a rabid conservative attack dog to a non-partisan public-interest government watchdog.

I think the transformation happened on January 20th or so of last year.

34 posted on 07/11/2002 7:07:08 AM PDT by Bob
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To: rabidone
Moral supreiority? What planet do you live on?

They're human beings and many are corrupt. Those are facts you had better face. If you didn't already know that, then you may want to pay closer attention.

However, some are honest. This is politics are the dims are playing dirty. What's your answer- sit in your hands?

36 posted on 07/11/2002 8:22:57 AM PDT by jumpstartme
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To: laotzu
"Of course, I cannot speak for the business crowd that you have chosen to run with, but; the overwhelming majority of my competitors (and peers) are honest, honorable, and admirable business people.

This, of course, begs the question: What business is it that you are in that paints a picture of "rampant" corruption to you? Is this "rampant" corruption evident in your office as well, or are you merely repeating assertions gleaned from Dan Rather?"

As an "ex" Plant Manager in the Automotive Industry, I agree with Hove. I wouldn't play the games, I got out. But it was rampant throughout the industry. Phoney Quality Documentation, Financial manipulations, Price Fixing, you name it, it determined Bonus's.

37 posted on 07/12/2002 6:12:28 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: hove
You're Right.
38 posted on 07/12/2002 6:13:26 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rabidone
If you read thru this thread and then go back to issues during the Clinton Crime Wave, the WORDS being used by defenders are nearly identical. "So What!", "Big Deal", "What Crime......?" etc.

It's hard to defend unscrupulous, unethical, greed driven people in high public office without sounding the same, no matter what party affiliation you have. But they don't seem to grasp that.

39 posted on 07/12/2002 6:41:03 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Without a doubt, there are fields of endeavor that have, historically, invited and attracted dishonesty and corruption.

Politics, government, labor unions, enviromentalists, televangelists, and used car salesman are widely recognized, and ridiculed as disreputable.

An important component of their corruption is selling the notion that they represent all. They do not.

It is terribly misguided, incorrect, insulting, and damaging to propogate the falsehood that Jimmy Hoffa, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Swaggert, or the heads of A.A. accurately represent the character of me, or most.

Honesty, dignity, honor, and character remain rampant in this country, and the world.

A view from ditch may leave one with the impression that the world is an ugly, filthy place. That would be a false, and often self-serving impression.

40 posted on 07/12/2002 8:35:57 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Illbay
The Andersen video, obtained by the Wall St Journal newspaper, is a further embarrassment for President Bush's administration.

Puuuuh-lease!Further embarrassment?The word "Embarrassment" is strictly reserved for #42 alone.How the BBC can make me laugh sometimes,and I needed that this morning.God knows they're not that interested in the health and strength of our country. LOL

41 posted on 07/12/2002 8:53:40 AM PDT by Pagey
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