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World's Oldest Boat Found in Desert
Discovery News ^ | June 17, 2002 | By Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Posted on 06/22/2002 4:13:15 PM PDT by vannrox

World's Oldest Boat Found in Desert


The piece of ancient boat on the left bears parallel reed impressions, and a row of small holes, perhaps from pegs. The slab on the right sports barnacles, showing that the slabs had been immersed in sea water for a number of months before they were put into storage.

By Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News


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June 17 — The world's oldest known boat, built 7,000 years ago out of tarry, bitumen-covered slabs, has been found in an unlikely place: the Kuwaiti desert.

If the assessment of British and Kuwaiti archaeologists is correct, the slabs, found covered on one side with barnacles and warehoused in a stone building at a site called As-Sabiyah, would push back the date for the oldest known boat by more than 2,000 years.

According to an upcoming paper in the Proceedings of the Seminar for Arabian Studies and a paper published in the June 7 issue of the journal Science, the current oldest boat record-holder is a vessel found in an Egyptian tomb dating to 3,000 B.C. Evidence for log canoes, thought to be more like rafts than boats, goes back much further, to 8,000 B.C. The age of the entire As-Sabiyah site, including the boat remains, has been carbon-14 dated to 5,511-5,324 B.C.

Robert Carter, an archaeologist at University College London and the expedition's field director, believes that the slabs belonged to a boat because they have reed impressions on one side and barnacles on the other.

Carter said bitumen, which is still crushed with fish oil and coral and used today by some Middle Eastern boat builders, likely formed a waterproof seal around vessels constructed out of reed bundles tied together with ropes and string.

He also believes that the bitumen-covered reed boats were used to carry people and goods between Mesopotamia, As-Sabiyah (which he thinks was then a peninsula within the Tigris-Euphrates River area), and the Central Gulf region.

If the theory is correct, it could explain why ancient Mesopotamian pottery often turns up many miles to the south on the Persian Gulf's western shores, according to the Science report.

"We do not know the race of the people trading at As-Sabiyah," Carter told Discovery News. "It is (safe) to say that people from the Arabian Peninsula were involved, along with people from Mesopotamia."

Carter is more confident about what goods were traded, based on finds at the site. These included pierced pearls likely used for jewelry, pottery, shells, spindle whorls probably used to spin wool, bead necklaces, mother of pearl buttons, and flint and obsidian stones. He believes that livestock and fish also were traded.

Carl Lamberg-Karlovsky, professor of archaeology at Harvard University, questions whether the As-Sabiyah boat was used for trade, due to its apparently small size, and suggests that it was just a fishing boat for locals. He also hints that remains of even older vessels may be found in future due to evidence for ancient boating, such as clay boat models.

Lamberg-Karlovsky said, "Although the Kuwaiti find might be the earliest evidence for a boat, it is very important to point out that people were seafaring far earlier than this."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; boat; british; discovery; economic; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; kuwaiti; old; science
Very Interesting...
1 posted on 06/22/2002 4:13:16 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
So what's the theory as to why it's out in the desert?
2 posted on 06/22/2002 4:17:48 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: vannrox
And Thor Heyerdahl just passed on Apr 18. He would've thought about rebuilding and piloting it.
3 posted on 06/22/2002 4:21:29 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: vannrox
found covered on one side with barnacles

Them barnacles are some thorn in the side of us boat owners.

4 posted on 06/22/2002 4:22:31 PM PDT by Lower55
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To: Mike Fieschko
Must be Jacques Cousteau's first Calypso.

What a maroon that french fry turned out to be.

5 posted on 06/22/2002 4:24:03 PM PDT by Lower55
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To: vannrox
Littering the desert, the Dems need a new law.
6 posted on 06/22/2002 4:28:46 PM PDT by bmwcyle
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To: d4now
FYI
7 posted on 06/22/2002 4:35:50 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: vannrox; knighthawk; Yehuda; PhiKapMom; OKSooner
...bitumen, which is still crushed with fish oil and coral and used
today by some Middle Eastern boat builders
, likely formed a waterproof seal around
vessels constructed out of reed bundles tied together with ropes and string.


No doubt some of the Islamicists who want to rule the world and put us all
under Shar'ia law.
And haven't improved their methods in about 8,000 years.

(OK, it may still be effective waterproofing, but you get the point...)
8 posted on 06/22/2002 4:45:49 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Willie Green
So what's the theory as to why it's out in the desert?

This was before the invention of water, so the best they could do was float it on sand.

9 posted on 06/22/2002 4:50:00 PM PDT by JoeSchem
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; blam
Thanks for the bump Tonk. :)

Bump to you blam.

10 posted on 06/22/2002 5:01:55 PM PDT by d4now
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To: JoeSchem
So what's the theory as to why it's out in the desert?

Uh, their trailer broke down?
11 posted on 06/22/2002 5:07:06 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: vannrox
Thanks, I love this kind of stuff.
12 posted on 06/22/2002 5:09:08 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: hedgetrimmer
So what's the theory as to why it's out in the desert?

The ancient forebearers to the Zoroastrian Persians had the same concerns as the modern day tree huggers. First comes global warming, then beachfront property in the desert. It just took a bit longer than they thought.
13 posted on 06/22/2002 5:16:30 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: JoeSchem
C'mon... water was invented to put out fire!

The inventor was Ishkabible I in 7504 BC.

Fire was invented by Bug IV during the Charcoal Age, approximately 9500 BC... hence the term “fire-bug”.

14 posted on 06/22/2002 5:28:21 PM PDT by johnny7
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
May just be the Explosive Ordnance Disposal thinking still in me but I'd suggest that folks don't "dig" anywhere in the Kuwaiti Desert......... Trust me on this one :o)

Stay Safe

15 posted on 06/22/2002 6:06:40 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: vannrox; ofMagog
boat builders, likely formed a waterproof seal ...with ropes and string.

Look how far we have advanced, now days, we use duct tape and chewing gum.

16 posted on 06/22/2002 6:07:26 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Willie Green
Here we go ....

"So what's the theory as to why it's out in the desert?"

I don't think Noah built the first boat ever. I think there were boats on bodies of water, whether ocean, lake or pond.

The fragment found in the Kuwaiti desert means the same thing as oceanic fossils showing up on mile-high mountains ... a universal flood.

17 posted on 06/22/2002 6:29:45 PM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf
Not exactly. A boat in the Kuwaiti desert means slightly higher sea levels, enough for the salt marshes seen up towards Iraq to be somewhat bigger in area, large enough to cover this now dry location. The area is hardly mountainous and sea levels fluctuate throughout history. The middle east was once a far wetter place than now, just as the American midwest was once tropical and had oceanfront property.

As for fossils on mountains, they are there because of geologic uplift, as can be seen by the sharp angle of the bands of fossilized sea bed. Clearly, when the bands were made, the area was flat seafloor, not mountainous, and the layers were made over a very long time period before the uplift began. The fossil sea critters now seen in mountain rock are of course far older than the boat in any case. Wrong time period to be concurrent with the boat, unless you're thinking multiple floods.

18 posted on 06/22/2002 7:43:01 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Willie Green
World's Oldest Boat...
Found in the Kuwaiti desert...
Implication: The world's oceans are abnormally low and have been for a couple thousand years...
19 posted on 06/22/2002 8:07:42 PM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: piasa
Seriously, most of Kuwait is the result of millenia of silt building a delta at the base of the river.
20 posted on 06/22/2002 8:13:44 PM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: d4now
Thanks for the ping, but....

World's Oldest Boat Found In Desert

21 posted on 06/22/2002 8:38:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: razorback-bert
Sounds like you been fishing with me. :^)
22 posted on 06/22/2002 10:37:39 PM PDT by SandfleaCSC
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To: johnny7
"Fire was invented by Bug IV during the Charcoal Age, approximately 9500 BC... hence the term “fire-bug”."

I've heard that a leftish Sheikh..I think the name is Sheikh Almed Bin Goresan..claimed that his ancestors had invented the boat and discovered all the world's ocean routes over 10,000 years ago!

23 posted on 06/22/2002 11:15:34 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: blam
I should have known you would be days ahead of you-know-who....
24 posted on 06/22/2002 11:55:05 PM PDT by d4now
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To: vannrox
Mmmmm...brownies.
25 posted on 06/23/2002 12:13:19 AM PDT by truth_session
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To: JoeSchem
This was before the invention of water

"invention of water"?

26 posted on 06/23/2002 12:22:40 AM PDT by JudgeMan
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29 posted on 11/07/2008 5:17:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
SECRETS OF WORLD'S OLDEST BOAT ARE DISCOVERED IN KUWAIT SANDS.

For Kuwait, stung by the recent suggestion by Saddam Hussein’s son, Uday, that cartographers should redraw maps to show the oil-rich emirate as no more that a province of “greater Iraq”, the discovery of its possible 7,000 year old heritage could not have come at a better time. Subiya Man is already being heralded as “the first Kuwaiti”, even though human remains have yet to be found in the sand.

The Subiya site in Kuwait yielded pieces of bitumen from 5,000BC, evidence of early boat building, while archaeoligists were unearthing a Neolithic human site

The model boat found at Subiya holds details of ancient construction methods

30 posted on 11/07/2008 7:02:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: JoeSchem

Or extremely afraid of drowning.


31 posted on 11/07/2008 7:39:37 PM PST by StandUpChuck
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To: knarf
The fragment found in the Kuwaiti desert means the same thing as oceanic fossils showing up on mile-high mountains ... a universal flood.

The fossils, maybe. A boat could have ridden in on a tidal wave.

32 posted on 11/07/2008 7:49:36 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Willie Green

Poor maintenance.


33 posted on 06/03/2010 8:35:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: Willie Green
So what's the theory as to why it's out in the desert?

Back then it was beach.

34 posted on 06/03/2010 8:37:36 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was an autographed picture of Helen Thomas.)
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