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Law enforcement question pilot at Lincoln Park airport (FLYING OVER N.Y. RESERVOIRS)
ap via newsday ^ | 6/21/2002 | ap

Posted on 06/21/2002 8:01:20 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:40 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The pilot of a single-engine aircraft seen flying over New York reservoirs was questioned by law enforcement officers Friday at a local airport, federal officials said.

At about 4 p.m. Friday, the New York State Police aviation unit received a call from state police in Delaware County, N.Y., that a low-flying plane was seen over Pepacton, Cannonsville and Ashokan reservoirs, said Maj. Alan Martin of the state police in Middletown, N.Y.

It was described as a white plane with a red stripe and matched the description of a plane seen flying over a Connecticut reservoir on Thursday.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: New York
KEYWORDS: isolatedincidents; poisonplots; reservoirs; terrorist; watersupply; watersupplyplot; watersupplyplots

1 posted on 06/21/2002 8:01:22 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
They didn't report the pilot's name. Ooops. I'm profiling. Dang.
2 posted on 06/21/2002 8:03:15 PM PDT by Draco
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To: Draco
I noticed that too. Hummm I wonder if islam is involved?
3 posted on 06/21/2002 8:16:32 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
I sure hope his name isn't achmed, abdullah or anything similar.
The authorities would have to let him go, since we can't be profiling or anything offensive like that

(...sarcasm)
4 posted on 06/21/2002 8:21:06 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic
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To: reagan_fanatic
he may of been arrested I am checking now for sure.
5 posted on 06/21/2002 8:26:45 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
The questioning came a day after witnesses in a car called police in Groton, Conn., to report that something fell or was thrown from a red-and-white-striped plane flying above Smith Lake.

The Gods Must Be Crazy III
6 posted on 06/21/2002 8:30:44 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: TLBSHOW
...a red-and-white-striped plane...

He is profiling.
7 posted on 06/21/2002 8:37:41 PM PDT by WSGilcrest
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To: TLBSHOW; Draco; reagan_fanatic; Djarum; WSGilcrest; JohnHuang2; Mitchell; Puppage; bytesmith; ...
Ping for a followup from this story of 6/20:

Report of something falling from plane sends police to Reservior

Groton-WTNH, June 20, 2002 Updated 7:02 PM ) _ A report of something falling from a plane into a reservoir sent state police and the FBI into action Thursday afternoon.

State Trooper Roger Beaupre tells News Channel 8 a person called the state police barracks in Montville and reported seeing something either falling or being thrown from a plane into the Groton Reservoir around 2:45 p.m.

A team from the FBI, as well as state and local police and the Department of Environmental Protection is on the scene.

News Channel 8 staff member Bryan Lee says the police helicopter Trooper 1 is making repeated passes over the water, but does not appear to be searching any one particular area. Lee says it appears a police dive team is in the water.

Authorities have set up a command post near Exit 88 off of I-95.

There have been similar scares involving the water supply around the country in the wake of the attacks of September 11th.

Last month in Easton, police were called out to a reservoir when someone reported three men on top of a water supply tank. It turned out the men, who were from Bangladesh, were taking pictures.


8 posted on 06/21/2002 8:55:38 PM PDT by Shermy
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Authorities come up empty in reservoir search (Channel 8 - 6/21)
Groton-WTNH, June 21, 2002 5:02 PM) _ State investigators are still trying to figure out what if anything fell from a plane and into a Groton reservoir. A witness reported seeing something fall from a plane above Smith Lake Thursday afternoon.

Watch the story from News Channel 8's Leon Collins State police and officials at Groton Utilities say they have not been able to find whatever it was that might have fallen or was thrown from a low flying plane over Smith Lake.

Officials continue to isolate Smith Lake from the rest of the area water supply and tests of all water in that area show the water is safe.

Connecticut got a good look at homeland security in action yesterday afternoon as state police and local authorities in Groton had a unified response to what may have been a threat to the area's water supply

State police say a credible witness reported seeing something brown about the size of a backpack either falling or thrown from a white plane with a red stripe a little after 2:30 p.m.

"State Police divers concluded their diving expedition throughout the entire lake area and found nothing," police spokesman Sgt. J. Paul Vance said. "They were unable to locate anything. A complete search of the property surrounding the reservoir has taken place. They found nothing."

Investigators interviewed pilots at Groton Airport and at airports in Rhode Island Friday in an effort to find out what the unidentified falling object was.

Water testing is being done by both the state health department and Groton Utilities. That will continue through the weekend.

Again, the water supply in the Groton area has been tested and found to be just fine.


9 posted on 06/21/2002 8:59:10 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Thanks, I hadn't seen a followup for that story.
10 posted on 06/21/2002 10:17:47 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: Shermy; Nogbad; keri
a low-flying plane was seen over Pepacton, Cannonsville and Ashokan reservoirs

These three reservoirs are all part of New York City's water supply system. Together, they have more than half the capacity of the NYC water supply system. See this official NYC water supply page.

The capacity of each of these reservoirs is about 100 billion gallons. It would take a huge amount of any chemical agent to achieve any significant level of contamination, because of the effect of dilution. This sounds completely impractical to me. Maybe a biological agent of some sort however?

11 posted on 06/22/2002 12:27:15 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Shermy; Dixie Mom
Update from WTNH web site Saturday, June 22:

Police say NJ Plane Didn't Fly Over Groton Reservoir

(Hartford-AP June 22, 2002 9:50AM) -- State police say a plane found in New Jersey does not appear to be the same plane witnesses say flew over a Groton reservoir this week.

Witnesses say they saw a red-and-white-striped plane drop a package into Smith Lake on Thursday.

State police spokesman Sergeant J. Paul Vance says troopers and F-B-I agents from Connecticut were in New Jersey yesterday to investigate, but preliminary findings showed no connection.

Vance says authorities are not searching the lake anymore. He say the water is still being tested. Officials have stressed that tap water is still safe to drink. After the report, water company officials immediately shut off supply from the lake to the water system.

Police are now asking any pilots who were in the area on Thursday to contact them if they have any information regarding the plane.

12 posted on 06/22/2002 3:09:24 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Do they ever have surveillance cameras at reservoirs?
13 posted on 06/22/2002 3:15:51 PM PDT by alley cat
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To: TLBSHOW
To any skeptics on this thread:

National Infrastructure Protection Center bulletin - yes it is important to follow up on all these "little" coincidences.

http://www.nipc.gov/publications/infobulletins/2002/ib02-001.htm

NIPC Information Bulletins communicate issues that pertain to the critical national infrastructure and are for information purposes only.

A computer that belonged to an individual with indirect links to USAMA BIN LADIN contained structural architecture computer programs that suggested the individual was interested in structural engineering as it related to dams and other water-retaining structures. The computer programs included CATIGE, BEAM, AUTOCAD 2000 and MICROSTRAN, as well as programs used to identify and classify soils using the UNIFIED SOIL CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM.

In addition, U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies have received indications that Al-Qa'ida members have sought information on Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition (SCADA) systems available on multiple SCADA-related web sites. They specifically sought information on water supply and wastewater management practices in the U.S. and abroad. There has also been interest in insecticides and pest control products at several web sites.

Recipients can find additional information regarding posting sensitive infrastructure-related information on Internet web sites in NIPC Advisory 02-001 issued on 17 January 2002 at http://www.nipc.gov/warnings/advisories/2002/02-001.htm. The intent of this bulletin was to encourage Internet content providers to review the sensitivity of the data they provide online.

The NIPC encourages recipients of this Information Bulletin to report information concerning criminal or terrorist activity to their local FBI office http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm or the NIPC, and to other appropriate authorities. Recipients may report incidents online at http://www.nipc.gov/incident/cirr.htm, and can reach the NIPC Watch and Warning Unit at (202) 323-3205, 1-888-585-9078 or nipc.watch@fbi.gov

14 posted on 06/22/2002 3:28:35 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: alley cat
Too many reservoirs here, and too many trees. You can't see the horizon anywhere.
15 posted on 06/22/2002 3:33:32 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: TLBSHOW
something fell or was thrown from a red-and-white-striped plane

Red: "A swallowtailed red flag is part of international shipping code indicating that the ship flying it is carrying explosives."

White: "Ambulance or other official vehicle on track, in motor racing" as well as "Taliban Movement in Afghanistan"

Source: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/flagmono.html

16 posted on 06/22/2002 3:37:49 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Draco
Achmed Smith.
17 posted on 06/25/2002 3:25:01 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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