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Little left at Baladullah site
The Fresno Bee ^ | June14, 2002 | Bethany Clough

Posted on 06/14/2002 6:41:45 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic

Edited on 04/12/2004 2:10:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

BADGER -- A handwritten sign on an isolated, winding section of Highway 245 advertised a yard sale Thursday. "Everything must go," it read.

Apparently, that included the people who lived there.

One woman and a collection of clothes, chairs and computer parts were all that remained of Baladullah, a Muslim village near the mountain community of Badger.


(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; baladullah; fresno; islamicvillage; jihadinamerica
I am glad they are gone, but it would be nice to know where they have all gone to. An interview, or location of Kkadijah Ghafur would be nice.

Gateway Charter Schools just last week dropped their lawsuit against Fresno County Sup of Schools. They were charging that their charter was revoked due to discrimination against Muslims. Apparently they had no more taxpayer money to pay the slimy lawyer with (no offense to slime).

Thankfully the money was cutoff, and now that "rats" are fleeing.


1 posted on 06/14/2002 6:41:46 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic
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2 posted on 06/14/2002 6:43:42 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic
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3 posted on 06/14/2002 6:44:29 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
For those new to FR, or unfamiliar with the story here is a link to the original "Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills above Fresno" thread.

This Baladullah is a part of the Al-Fuqra network that operates several compounds across the USA. They are associated with Sheik Gilani of Pakistan. Most recently associated with the death of WSJ reporter Daniel Pearl. Gilani is the one that Pearl was attempting to interview.

This Baladullah, was operating several charter schools all over California. It was determined that they were unable to account for a few million dollars of taxpayer money, and more descrepancies, so they were shut down. The suspicion is that the funds were supporting Terrorism.

4 posted on 06/14/2002 6:54:58 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: Clovis_Skeptic, lady in red, travis mcgee, squantos, harp seal, ernest at the beach, shermy, seam
Great News!

This is another example of what gets done when things get exposed on Free Republic.

This is more proof when these home grown terrorist pods lose financing like our tax $'s for their so called Charter School or $'s from Saudi Arabia and US Islamic Terrorist organizations, they cease to exist.

Very little Islamic acts of terrorism can be planned and executed without money.

Hopefully, our new fbi has been following and will follow these Black Muslim/al Fuqra SOB's.

Now, the FBI or BATF needs to go in and collect every spent bullet used in target practice at this compound to specifically identify weapons owned and used by this Black Muslim/al Fuqra terrorist group as per what Travis McGee suggestion last December. Finger printing the compound would be a prudent move.

Another Freeper Job that ends up as a well done. Thanks to Clovis Skeptic spreading the word last December. Then the Freeper Anti Terrorist Group sprang into action.

I have been posting about how our national security would be improved if we had 500,000 alert Freepers like Clovis Skeptic out in America monitoring these scum bags and then putting the spotlight on them. The FBI could in many cases just monitor FR to target their investigations. Left wing Fish Wrap like the Fresno Bee can no longer spike stories like this one to be Politically Correct.

Hopefully every Freeper involved exposing this cancer is a monthly contributor to Free Republic! We need thousands of monthly contributors to Free Republic to keep Free Republic strong and vibrant to bust more of the Jihadists in America.

Well done, Clovis Skeptic, Red Lady and all Freepers involved in dragging this cancer cell out into the spotlight of truth to destroy it!

Clovis, thanks for this great news. It would not have happen if not for you and Free Republic.

5 posted on 06/14/2002 7:23:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Thanks. I was wondering if they were al Furqa. Now I'm wondering where they went.
6 posted on 06/14/2002 7:40:23 AM PDT by Catspaw
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Most were Black Muslims, probably recruited in Kali Prisons with our tax $'s. When released from prison for being a good religious Black Muslim, then, they joined with al Fuqra to form this training camp, fund raising unit and an al Fuqra pod. The millions of $'s that they scammed for their so called Charter school apparently funded their entire operation.

When that funding disappeared, they had to leave.

Now to your question of where are they? They have moved to communities with Black Muslim/al Fuqra pods and will be doing the same thing. That is preaching death to whites, Jews and anyone in their way of hatred. These are racist parasites, and they need our tax $'s to live their lives of hatred/anti America agendas. So they will go to states/cities where they can get the manna from Tax suckers to live and hate America. They will be welcomed in those states/cities by the Rats in charge.

7 posted on 06/14/2002 8:05:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Clovis_Skeptic, travis mcgee, ernest at the beach, shermy, seamole, all

Notice the Uhaul sign. Apparently these Jihadists in America had a Uhaul franchise. Great way to make money and have vans/trucks to haul stuff around for terrorist activities.

8 posted on 06/14/2002 8:10:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
the village was a place where Muslims could raise their children in a peaceful, rural setting.

How about they just go back to the Middle East where they are wanted?

9 posted on 06/14/2002 11:09:44 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Grampa Dave; Clovis_Skeptic
Thank God and UHaul they're gone.
Jim
10 posted on 06/14/2002 12:05:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson, clovis skeptic
Thanks to Clovis Skeptic and Free Republic they are gone!

Hey Jim, you or John ought to go over there and get a few items for a Freepathon Auction, like that Uhaul sign for one. Or just put them in/on your trophy case.

I'm sure that those, whom live in that area and have a brain are feeling better with these thugs gone! Too bad they didn't leave before the young deputy was murdered by one of their graduates.

11 posted on 06/14/2002 12:13:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
When I saw this in the paper this morning, my first reaction was great joy! They are gone, and that is a good thing!
However, upon reflection, I realized that the article says no one knows where they went! since I don't believe their purpose for the camp was to teach little children how to do their ABC's. I am convinced they took their training camp elsewhere where there is less heat.
Cockroaches don't like the light shining on them.

Interesting that once the millions we were contributing to them was shut off, they split the scene so to speak. Might have something to do with a certain spook group with three letters initials were watching them.
Hopefully they know where this group is now!

I believe it is partly due to the large thread you started here and pressure put on the state and law enforcement by freepers that they are no longer in our neighborhood teaching terrorist techiniques to the children with our tax dollars!

12 posted on 06/14/2002 10:16:36 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Grampa Dave
I am sure you are right, they have moved on elsewhere to do the same thing. We have freepers everywhere, so I would hope they would all keep their ears open and if they see any of this kind of activity in their area, expose it!
They are training little children, and I think we all know in what. We see it weekly in Israel.
Clovis_Skeptic did a fantastic job of researching and exposing this diabolical terrorist cell in our neighborhood, as did all of the freepers who contributed to the original thread. Many thanks to all who helped.
The feds assured us they were aware of this group, therefore I would expect they have some idea where they went.
13 posted on 06/14/2002 10:25:37 PM PDT by ladyinred
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Hey, we have a trophy thread!

We exposed them and they ran away to hide in other locales.

Every one keep their eye out for U-Haul trailers!

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14 posted on 06/14/2002 11:02:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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NOTE: dont let the pic confuse you, Baladullah was not flying the flag.The Fresno Bee apparently use the same url for pics, and have changed the pic that was posted on the thread originally.

It was a pic of the compound entrance cluttered with left over yard sale junk, and a "U Haul" rental sign hanging above.

15 posted on 06/15/2002 7:14:12 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic
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So when the funding for their "school" got cut off by California, this killed their finances? I will give them points for creativity on scamming welfare money off the state.
16 posted on 06/15/2002 7:46:19 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
Thank you!
17 posted on 06/15/2002 7:58:37 AM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Catspaw
"Now I'm wondering where they went. "

Then again maybe the got their marching orders from OBL as to which cities they have been assigned to attack. So they just broke camp to go setup in their individual target cities.

18 posted on 06/15/2002 8:14:53 AM PDT by Kerberos
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Thanks, I can't believe that the Uhaul picture disappeared and the American Flag picture came up instead.

Maybe the Fresno Bee was getting too many hits on the picture of the old Jihad in America Site and changed the picture.

Actually it is in a way, what happened. They are gone and the American Flag is still flying. A little similiar of other pictures where our side wins, and the American Flag goes up!

19 posted on 06/15/2002 8:15:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
"...she founded the village as a way for people to nourish "the empowerment of the human spirit."
How about: ...she founded the village as a way for people to encourage "the impoverishment of the human spirit."
20 posted on 06/15/2002 8:16:32 AM PDT by Still Using Air
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To: Grampa Dave
I hope that someone has mentioned to the FBI that their shooting range will contain fired bullets and shells which might be valuable in the future for ballistic comparison.
21 posted on 06/15/2002 8:30:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: EggsAckley
These guys are separtists from the norm. But so were the Branch Davidians, KKK, Arian Nation, Quakers, PA and Ohio Amish. The problem is that in the US, all these groups are legal. While the quakers and amish are quite innocuous except when you want to build a freeway near them or vaccinate their kids., arian nation, and the muslims are not. But I think they still have equal rights.
22 posted on 06/15/2002 9:06:16 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
I have to agree that they probably DO have their rights, however I can't help but wonder if their community was scanned for illegals, or possibly terrorists. I doubt it. At any rate, I must admit that I'm GLAD they disbanded; can't help but be suspicious these days, PC or no PC.
23 posted on 06/15/2002 9:13:10 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
"They tell me now that they sold their homes [to come to Baladullah]," Harland said, "and now they don't have anyplace to go."

Several suggestions come to mind. The least provocative of those suggestions would be Pakistan. Then they can be surrounded by their moslem buds. They are likely to get the treatment they deserve.

24 posted on 06/15/2002 9:13:50 AM PDT by neutrino
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To: staytrue
the difference is that in many reports, Khadijah Ghafur makes many trips to Pakistan, where the leader of her group Sheik Gilani lives, for humanitarian reasons. She takes money, clothes, and various forms of support to those carrying out war against US.

Better yet here is a great article that spells out the problems with this woman and her school and her compound

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/nation/2593358.htm

Posted on Sat, Feb. 02, 2002 &#65532;&#65532;
Cleric's followers have hopscotched around California
BY SEAN WEBBY AND BRANDON BAILEY Knight Ridder Newspapers

SAN JOSE, Calif. - (KRT) - The name of Sheik Mubarik Ali Gilani has been little-known in California, except to a small number of African-American Muslims who follow his teachings, and to law enforcement authorities who have tracked their movements across the state.

But two other names are prominent in the history of Gilani's followers here. Abdullah Baqi was once described by law enforcement authorities as the West Coast leader of a dangerous group they called Ul-Fuqra. And an analysis of public records indicates that Baqi was married to the woman now called Khadijah Ghafur, who later founded the community outside Fresno known as Baladullah.

California authorities first came across Gilani's followers in 1983.

Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies were investigating a prowler report in Compton when they noticed two men stowing something in a car trunk. The deputies reported finding a rifle, a silencer and a police scanner in the car. According to Susan Fenger, the lead state investigator on a major Ul-Fuqra case in Colorado in the 1990s, they also found documents linking the two men to other Gilani followers in the United States.

One of the two men was later identified by law enforcement authorities as Abdullah Baqi. They determined that Baqi had opened a branch of Gilani's International Qur'anic Open University at a modest home in Compton, a crowded, working-class community that was plagued by drugs and gang activity in the 1980s.

The owner of that house in Compton still lives in a neighboring city and remembers her tenants well. Landlady Verdie Faas said she rented the home to a man and his wife, Deanna, although she soon discovered dozens of other people living in trailers behind the house. Public records show that Deanna Baqi, who used the same Social Security number as Khadijah Ghafur, lived at the Compton house. By 1984, authorities had traced Baqi to a remote spot in the high desert of the San Bernardino Mountains, about 100 miles northeast of Compton. Baqi and two other men had bought a 10-acre parcel of land there.

Neighbors today recall several dozen people - men, women and at least 20 young children - living in military-style tents and old trailers, on a dry, wind-swept parcel in an area called Summit Valley.

"They never bothered anybody, but you were always leery of them," recalled Dave Weber, who lived nearby. He remembered hearing gunfire on the property at night. Some valley residents knew Baqi as James A. Jennings, which Baqi listed as his other name on a real-estate deed from that time. Weber described him as a cordial, well-spoken man who said he had studied in Pakistan. In another legal document from that time, Abdullah Baqi gave his wife's name as Khadijah Baqi.

After a year or so, Weber's neighbors moved farther into the hills. Then, one day in 1986, they were gone. Sheriff's deputies searched the site and reported finding typewritten notes about the 1983 murder of a Muslim leader in Michigan, according to Fenger. They also found photographs of a mosque that had been firebombed and a photo of Baqi with another Gilani follower, Stephen Paster. Paster was later convicted of firebombing an Oregon hotel owned by the Baghwan Shree Rajneesh, an Indian religious leader who had established his own sect in a rural part of that state.

One of the co-owners of that first desert parcel was Rasuli Jabari. Now living on a farm in Mississippi, Rasuli Jabari chuckled when he was asked about those days. "I was a young Muslim," he said. "Having grown up through the `60s and `70s, and to be an African-American and Vietnam veteran - it was all about being a search. I was gullible and easily influenced."

Jabari said he long ago parted ways with the group, and declined to elaborate.

Abdullah Baqi disappeared from the public record in the late 1980s. In 1989, Khadijah Baqi incorporated a non-profit group called Banaatun-Noor in San Bernadino County. The Muslims of the Americas today say that is the name of their affiliate for Muslim women that conducts educational trips to Pakistan.

Shortly after, Khadijah Baqi leased a former Baptist youth camp in the Central Sierra.

Property manager Polly Doyle remembers that the tenant wanted to use the site as a shelter for disadvantaged children and their families.

Soon there were several dozen people living in the cabins. But problems arose: Neighbors reported hearing gunfire on the property and local land-use officials found numerous violations of building and safety codes. By 1993, the group had fallen months behind on the rent and the owner filed to evict them.

What followed was an eviction process like Doyle had never seen. FBI agents came to interview her and the owner. And when the residents finally moved on, Doyle said, the FBI searched the camp.

A number of those residents would later turn up at Baladullah, including Khadijah Ghafur and a man named Saleh Ghafur, who has been identified in a Fresno newspaper as Khadijah Ghafur's husband.

James A. Jennings - Abdullah Baqi's other name - also turned up at Baladullah, according to tax documents citing that as his address in 1998.

Khadijah Ghafur has said she founded Baladullah as a refuge for inner-city families, particularly women and children. But at least two men from other communities of Gilani followers have come to Baladullah in recent years. James Hobson was living at a South Carolina settlement, when he and five others were charged with illegally selling firearms to New York investigators in 1999. Hobson fled but authorities tracked him to Baladullah. They arrested him last March at the Gateway Academy charter school in Fresno, which is operated by the non-profit organization that owns Baladullah.

Then came the shooting death of a Fresno County deputy sheriff during a burglary at a cabin near Baladullah last August. Authorities have charged a young man who came to Baladullah from New York a few months earlier.

The father of shooting suspect Ramadan Abdullah said his son was showing signs of mental illness last year. Mahdi Abdullah said his son had attended youth retreats organized by a community of Gilani followers outside Binghamton, N.Y. Then, his son dropped from sight. When the family next heard from him, Ramadan Abdullah was calling home from Fresno, where he said he was getting help in the form of "Koranic psychotherapy." The next thing they heard, Mahdi Abdullah said, was the news of their son's arrest.

--- (Knight Ridder Newspapers correspondent Leigh Poitinger contributed to this report.) ---

© 2002, San Jose Mercury News (San Jose, Calif.). Visit Mercury Center, the World Wide Web site of the Mercury News, at "http://www0.mercurycenter.com" Distributed by Knight Ridder/Tribune Information Services.

25 posted on 06/15/2002 9:34:53 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: WillaJohns
read post 25 for more info on this compounds local leader
26 posted on 06/15/2002 9:36:24 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
Thank you for the update and your hard work. The compound was using "Koranic psychotherapy". That's scarey!
27 posted on 06/15/2002 3:05:36 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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