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Calling Agent Frank Black! Leftwing Dr. Strangelove Stole Anthrax theory from TV's Millennium
Toogood Reports ^ | 9 June 2002 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 06/07/2002 7:45:03 AM PDT by mrustow

Toogood Reports [Weekender, June 9, 2002; 12:01 a.m. EST]
URL: http://ToogoodReports.com/

Psst! The anthrax-laced letters that killed five people last fall, were sent by a home-grown, American terrorist. In fact, the killer — a heterosexual, Christian, white male wacko, if you'll excuse the redundancy — is a scientist who was doing contract work for the CIA, and who murdered five innocents on orders from the CIA. The feds have covered it all up. Pass it on.

I know who did it, because Barbara Hatch Rosenberg told me. Rosenberg is not only a tenured professor of microbiology at the New York State College at Purchase — which alone obligates me to accept her every statement in a spirit of blind faith — but she is also the chairwoman of the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) Working Group on Biological Weapons, and FAS has also posted a report of hers on its web site. And thousands of journalists in America, and across the world, have echoed her pronouncements. Who am I to question her authority?

As David Tell wrote in the April 29 Weekly Standard, "Rosenberg claims the FBI has known the anthrax mailer's precise identity for months already, but has deliberately avoided arresting him — indeed, may never arrest him — because he 'knows too much' that the United States 'isn't very anxious to publicize.' Specifically, according to an account the hazel-eyed professor offered on BBC Two's flagship Newsnight telecast March 14, the suspect is a former federal bioweapons scientist now doing contract work for the CIA. Last fall, you see, the man's Langley masters supposedly decided they'd like to field-test what would happen if billions of lethal anthrax spores were sent through the regular mail, and 'it was left to him to decide exactly how to carry it out.' The loosely supervised madman then used his assignment to launch an attack on the media and Senate 'for his own motives.' And, this truth being obviously too hot to handle, the FBI is now trying very hard not to discover it."

Since when does the FBI grant access to classified information to a loose cannon like Barbara Hatch Rosenberg? And if Rosenberg knows who the terrorist is, why has she not named him? It would be her patriotic (or in her own language, humanitarian) duty to do so. What is the terrorist going to do, sue her for defamation? And if Rosenberg were such a threat to the CIA, the FBI, and the terrorist, why is she still alive?

David Tell noted that Rosenberg's academic title notwithstanding, she didn't understand anthrax or the evidence at hand, "anthrax-related military [projects] ... And [has] a surprisingly unscientific, even Oliver Stone-scale, incaution about the 'facts' at her disposal."

Barbara Hatch Rosenberg appears to be the white, socialist equivalent of black supremacist "scholar," Leonard Jeffries — a chaotic, incompetent, political hack, who under cover of tenure and the protection of political academic organizations, seeks to cause hysteria. According to a March 20 expose by journalist Cliff Kincaid, the founder of usasurvival.org, when the anthrax terrorist's victims started dying, Rosenberg immediately sought to exploit the attacks, in order to discredit our biological warfare defense program, and ultimately get it shut down. To succeed, Rosenberg saw the need to pin the attacks on a rogue, American scientist — the proverbial, "home-grown" terrorist.

Depending on whom she is talking to at any given moment, Rosenberg has a direct line to the FBI or no contact to the Bureau, and has had to do all her "profiling" on her own; the anthrax killer was trying to kill as many people as possible, or didn't want to kill anyone, and was merely trying to warn people of the dangers posed by our biological warfare defense program. She has changed her story more often than Jesse Jackson did, when he led the Florida Disenfranchisement Hoax, following the 2000 presidential election. And as in Jackson's case, seeing in her a political ally, the media have uncritically echoed her wild, contradictory claims.

The moment I heard Rosenberg's claim that the anthrax murders were sanctioned by the CIA, and that the federal government had since orchestrated a cover-up, an alarm went off in my head. Barbara Hatch Rosenberg had snatched her story straight out of the Chris Carter (of X-Files fame) TV show, Millennium (1996-1999).

Seeking to tap into millennium fever (remember Y2K?) and the public's enthusiasm for stories featuring serial killers (Silence of the Lambs, etc.), Chris Carter and his crew (Glen Morgan, James Wong, Patrick Harbinson, Chip Johannessen, Frank Spotnitz, et al.) told the saga of profiler "Frank Black." In the role of his life, craggy-faced Lance Henriksen gave a heroic performance, as a man tortured by visions in which he sees the crimes committed by serial murderers — often with a theological angle — as they are committed, through the murderer's own eyes. Millennium was arguably more infused with religious passion than any show on the air then or since. It was a story of intrigue, betrayal, violence, sacrifice, love and redemption.

Although Millennium trafficked in Revelations-style apocalyptic visions, Frank Black was a cross between the Jewish "tzaddik" (righteous man), Christian saint, and maybe the Old Testament Messiah. Far from being a Superman with a big S emblazoned on his chest, Black is a deeply disturbed man who passionately loves his wife and daughter, and seeks to honor and protect them, while carrying out a seemingly impossible task. He tries to carry on as a stoic warrior, but he is a man of volcanic passions. Made entirely of flesh and blood, he is subject to human, all-too-human infirmities. The things he sees, the burden of carrying the fate of the world on his shoulders, and the personal losses that burden entails, causes him to suffer a series of nervous breakdowns, his face showing ever deepening, multiplying lines. Some observers have argued that Frank was really on the hunt for the Devil, in whatever "deliberate disguises" Lucifer wore.

Initially, Frank, a retired FBI agent, is recruited by the Millennium Group, an organization of former Bureau agents who act as unpaid consultants, helping local police departments solve serial murders and other bizarre crimes. When it becomes clear to Frank that the world is not in danger of being destroyed by lone wolf, serial killers, but rather by the existence of the Millennium Group, he returns to the FBI, in order to secretly fight the Group.

My portrayal of Millennium may sound looney. But imagine if, six years ago, someone had told you that an international terrorist conspiracy, fueled by nihilistic, millenarian fever, and funded by sovereign nations, including one of America's leading "allies" (Saudi Arabia), sought to destroy the United States?

In the show's second season, the Millennium Group is rent by a schism between "theists" and "secularists." an airborne, anthrax-style virus kills 70 people in the Pacific Northwest, among them Frank's wife, Catherine (Megan Gallagher). Frank had already been vaccinated against the virus. But he had only one dose with which to save either Catherine, or Frank and Catherine's seven-year-old daughter, Jordan (who shared Frank's gift, and who was played without cuteness or cloying sentimentality by Brittany Tiplady). Catherine chose death, so that Jordan might live.

It turned out that the Millennium Group had deliberately unleashed the virus as an experiment in germ warfare; the government covered up the crime. (If you think the similarity to Barbara Hatch Rosenberg's story is mere coincidence, I've got a great deal for you on a slightly used bridge.)

Frank had been deluded into thinking that "the Group" was the good guys. (The show was one of the inspirations of the excellent, new ABC series, Alias, in which a rogue spy network seeking mystical powers, and posing as a CIA "black ops" unit, recruits unwitting CIA agents. Alias' producers paid homage to Millennium, by having one of its co-stars, Terry O'Quinn, appear as an FBI investigator.)

As a Third Force, "doing what the government cannot do" to protect national security, the Millennium Group routinely engages in mass murder. It might destroy the world, to save it. At series' end, Frank takes Jordan on the run from the Group.

Millennium was one of the most powerful works of art ever created for TV. I think that, due to Millennium's superior cast and story line, and its writer-producers' theological sophistication, it left its sister series, The X-Files, in the dust. But hardly anyone watched Millennium, which is probably why Barbara Hatch Rosenberg felt safe in stealing one of its story lines.

Rosenberg may have a professorship in microbiology, but she long ago left science behind her, and has no more idea than I do, who the anthrax terrorist is. She feels such a consuming enmity towards America, that she has admitted to having wished, pre-9/11, for a deadly anthrax attack, for the sole purpose of discrediting the federal government! Rosenberg is apparently the sort of "scientist," who upon getting up in the morning and seeing that it is raining outside, indicts that "damned, vast, right-wing conspiracy!"

In the real world, profilers cannot see into other men's minds. They must work instead with the mundane tools of the social and behavioral sciences. In the real world, the Ames strain of anthrax, has circulated among an unknowable number of scientists in America, Canada, the United Kingdom and beyond. In the real world, the FBI has dozens, even hundreds of possible anthrax suspects. In the real world, the people seeking to destroy America, Israel, and possibly the world through biological warfare, are swarthy, foreign Moslems, not white, American Christians. And in the real world, we are faced with people who, like Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, are willing to betray their scientific training, their profession, and their nation, for the sake of gaining 15 minutes of fame, and making some political mischief. "Frank Black" is a towering, dramatic character; Barbara Hatch Rosenberg is just "a character."

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Nicholas at adddda@earthlink.net .


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; United Kingdom
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Article exposes the anthrax hoax perpetrated by scientist Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, and the traitorous agenda behind the hoax.
1 posted on 06/07/2002 7:45:03 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Thanks for this post! Freepers have been on to Barbara Hatch Rosenberg for months but there has been no (that I am aware of) expose of her in the press. Her whole anthrax story started when she gave it to The Green Party in Germany. From there the usual suspects (New York Times for one) picked it up. Every three or four week, Rosenberg would issue a new press release (with no new facts) and the media would run it as if they had never reported it before.
2 posted on 06/07/2002 7:50:32 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: *ccrm; Peacerose; seamole; Fred25; ouroboros; ChaseR; A.J.Armitage; kattracks; mafree...

Barbara Hatch Rosenberg Alert!


3 posted on 06/07/2002 7:54:19 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: LarryLied
Sure thing, Larry. You're right about Freepers having been onto this individual for quite a while, but then, that's nothing new. FReepers have been doing the job the mainstream media are paid to do, since long before I became a FReeper. With any luck, some well-paid, lazy, mainstream, neo-con alleged journalist will plagiarize this article, as so often happens with research posted here.
4 posted on 06/07/2002 8:01:10 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Um, sorry to bring this up, wut what the heck has our vaunted (real) intelligence/law enforcement/"homeland security" establishment actually done to find the real killer?

There's somebody (who, according to this article is most likely a black female lesbian Jew) out there who has killed, and may be getting close to kill again.

5 posted on 06/07/2002 8:08:32 AM PDT by Vladiator
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To: mrustow
Thanks for posting this article. I was discussing the anthrax situation last night with a friend after Bush's speech. My confidence in our government in general and the Bush administration in specific has a lot to do with the anthrax attacks. I hope they know where the anthrax came from and who was behind it, and for strategic reasons are witholding it from the public. In other words we can track it to Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but do not feel it would serve any effect to make that public until we are prepared to extract justice from Saddam and Iraq. If we do not have more of an idea of the anthrax's origin than allowing the Rosenberg allegations to gain the credibility that they have, then my confidence in our government and Bush will really be shaken.
6 posted on 06/07/2002 8:08:52 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: mrustow
Thanks for the ping
7 posted on 06/07/2002 8:15:49 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Free the USA
Sure thing.
8 posted on 06/07/2002 8:21:30 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: LarryLied
Rosenberg would issue a new press release (with no new facts) and the media would run
it as if they had never reported it before.


Since that report about the Ag. Dept. loan officer who said she had the encounter with Atta,
about half of the news reports I've heard have presumed that what Atta planned to do
was fill the passenger cabin with a tank...in order to fill it with fuel in order
to use the plane as a smaller version of the 9-11 planes.

These reports don't mention the possibility that Atta was going to fill the tank with
anthrax or some other noxious biological or chemical weapon.

The anthrax last year may have been domestic...but the press and the guvmint just
seem cock-sure that it couldn't have been foreign origin.
Got to find a white male right-winger to pin this one on!
9 posted on 06/07/2002 8:22:56 AM PDT by VOA
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To: mrustow
Anthrax = Islamic Terrorism

Any scenario other than Islamic terrorism means ALL of the following are just coincidences.

SERIOUS CONNECTIONS

- The most serious bioterror attack in America began only days after 9-11

- The letters all mention standard Islamic catch-phrases.

- Florida Dr. Tsonas treated Ahmed al-Haznawi for a severe leg lesion in late June.
  Dr. Tsonas is now convinced it was cutaneous anthrax.

- Two Johns Hopkins biodefense experts (Dr. Thomas Inglesby, Dr. Tara O'Toole) agree with Tsonas.

- FL hijackers inquire about crop-dusters and dispersal characteristics of chemical loads.

- Atta attempted to obtain a loan to buy a plane and convert it into a chemical transport.

- Moussaoui, the "20th hijacker", had tech info on airliners, crop-dusters, and wind patterns.

- Mohamed Atta went to Huber Drugs (Delray Beach, FL) with red hands during the summer of 2001.
  Druggist thought Atta was suffering from chemical exposure (basic pH -possibly bleach).

- Allah Rakah, detained by FBI, for placing suspicious bag of letters in his car with FL license plates

- Atta met twice with Colonel Muhammed Khalil Ibrahim al-Ani, a "very senior" Iraqi 'Special Ops' agent.
  (one report says the Czechs confirmed they had video...spycraft SOP)
  (Another report claims that a vacumm bottle was passed to Atta during the meeting)

- Ziad Jarrah also met with an Iraqi agent in 2001 in the UAE.

- Marwan al-Shehhi also met with an Iraqi agent in 2001 in the UAE.

- Iraq is the ONLY hostile country known to have succeeded in weaponizing anthrax

- Iraq conducted military exercises simulating the dispersal of anthrax spores from crop-dusters

- The hijackers had two operational hubs: Hamilton, New Jersey and Delray, Florida. Anthrax was found in both areas.

JUST COINCIDENCES??

- The wife of the Sun tabloid's editor rented two apartments to two hijackers In Florida.

- Marwan al-Shehhi went to Huber Drugs (with Atta) with severe chest congestion.
  The pharmacist sold him a bottle of Robitussin initially, and later antibiotics.
10 posted on 06/07/2002 8:26:08 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: Vladiator
Um, sorry to bring this up, wut what the heck has our vaunted (real) intelligence/law enforcement/"homeland security" establishment actually done to find the real killer?

Apparently, nothing. But have no fear -- King George is centralizing all police powers into the Executive Office of Unlimited Government Power. Even if that doesn't neyt the killer, it will at least make eveyone feel better -- which is all that matters -- and arrest anyone who complains.

There's somebody (who, according to this article is most likely a black female lesbian Jew) out there who has killed, and may be getting close to kill again.

OMG, I'm a black, female lesbian Jew! I guess I'm a suspect, too!

11 posted on 06/07/2002 8:27:19 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
"This is who we are".
12 posted on 06/07/2002 8:27:47 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: mrustow
Millenium, particularly the second season, was quite a good show. The third season sort of drifted a bit back into 'weird serial murderer of the week' syndrome, but featured an excellent and hilarious episode about three devils disguised as humans, meeting at a donut shop and discussing their successful temptations and evil acts for the day. It eventually turned out that all three had run into Frank Black, and that Black had recognized them and acted against them in some way, which I think reinforces the concept that Black was really hunting down the devil.
13 posted on 06/07/2002 8:31:23 AM PDT by AzSteven
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To: My Identity
Very good compilation. We need you in the FBI.
14 posted on 06/07/2002 8:37:43 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: mrustow;LarryLied
Rosenberg is not only a tenured professor of microbiology at the New York State College at Purchase

She may be a microbiologist, but functions as a Professor of Environmental Science.
Well, at least that's what the SUNY-Purchase website says:

Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, Ph.D.
Research Professor of Environmental Science


Not to denigrate SUNY-Purchase, but it looks like a school that just goes to
the bachelor degree in Environmental Science.
Probably not exactly a hotbed of cutting edge bio-weapons research.
I hope Professor Rosenberg isn't doing any bioweapons research for which SUNY-Purchase doesn't
have certified containment facilities.

Just my naive guess, but about the only environmental research products she's turning out
right now are: thermal pollution in terms of lots of hot air and fouling the waters
in the public commons with too much bull excrement and release of red herrings.
15 posted on 06/07/2002 8:38:17 AM PDT by VOA
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To: mrustow
Rosenberg's story that the CIA was behind it is not what was originally reported by the biological science community. What they said was that it was a scientist who did it in order to finagle a government contract connected with anthrax vaccination or prevention.

Also, there seem to have been at least two groups of anthrax victims. That cases in Florida, which were connected with the terrorists there through their landlady was one strand. The letters sent to Daschle and Leahy, which contained military grade anthrax, and may have caused the deaths in New York and Connecticut, were probably sent by someone else.

The business about white male Christians is also a separate thread, which was not promoted by Rosenberg but by unnamed senior FBI agents speaking through the NY Times. That was part of a knee-jerk reaction by clintonoids who were trying to pin suspicion on conservative Christians and abortion clinic bombers.

It still seems to me that the FBI is not seriously trying to solve this case, but is covering it up. Not, I assume, because they are the guilty parties themselves, but because there is some political reason for a coverup. The most likely reason is a plot by clintonoids seeking a government anthrax contract that went astray. Yet they did succeed in getting at least a small contract for Bioport to give vaccine to congressional staffers.

16 posted on 06/07/2002 8:50:20 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: My Identity
Thanks, as always, for your cyber-gumshoe work. If FReepers could save the 2000 election from a coup d'etat, I am confident that we can prevail over Dr. Barbara Hatch Strangelove.
17 posted on 06/07/2002 8:52:27 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: Wolfie
"This is who we are".

Thanks. In the first season, one or two phrases were superimposed over the opening titles. In the second or third season, another phrase was added or substituted. Though I can't recall for sure, I believe that the phrase you quoted may have been the later one. Do you remember the other phrases?

18 posted on 06/07/2002 9:20:16 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
In the first season, one or two phrases were superimposed over the opening titles. In the second or third season, another phrase was added or substituted. Though I can't recall for sure, I believe that the phrase you quoted may have been the later one. Do you remember the other phrases?

First Season:

WAIT, WORRY, WHO CARES?
Second Season:
THIS IS WHO WE ARE, THE TIME IS NEAR
Third Season:
WAIT, WORRY, THE TIME IS NEAR

19 posted on 06/07/2002 9:33:31 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Cicero
Also, there seem to have been at least two groups of anthrax victims.

I can't help wonder is there isn't another group of victims.

Remember the doctor in Florida who, upon reflection, is fairly certain that he
treated Atta's buddy for cutaneous anthrax...but apparently didn't diagnose the lesion
as anthrax at the time?

Some doctors are such pathetic diagnosticians (most are good, some almost psychic),
that I can't help but think at least a few deaths a year by anthrax go undiagnosed.

I'm not a doctor, but I can't help but wonder if MAYBE some of the victims from last
fall (especially the old lady in New England) weren't just the unlucky ones who got
anthrax via a NON-terrorist pathway...but their case was diagnosed correctly due
to the media attention.

My theory may be totally cracked...but I've met a couple of M.D.s in my lifetime
that I wouldn't be shocked if they screwed up one of these cases.
20 posted on 06/07/2002 9:43:24 AM PDT by VOA
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To: AzSteven
Millenium, particularly the second season, was quite a good show. The third season sort of drifted a bit back into 'weird serial murderer of the week' syndrome, but featured an excellent and hilarious episode about three devils disguised as humans, meeting at a donut shop and discussing their successful temptations and evil acts for the day. It eventually turned out that all three had run into Frank Black, and that Black had recognized them and acted against them in some way, which I think reinforces the concept that Black was really hunting down the devil.

I loved the third season, but it did bounce back and forth between episodes on Millennium Group world domination/annihilation, purely religious stories, and serial killer themes.

Your reference to the 'weird serial murderer of the week' syndrome recalls an episode involving two guys with special forces training, who would randomly murder strangers, a case which reminded Emma of the murder of her sister many years earlier, by a man who eerily resembled (but was not) one of the two killers. I tried to track down that episode, but couldn't.

I thought the sexual chemistry between Lance Henriksen (Frank Black) and Klea Scott (Agent Emma Hollis) was torrid, even if -- or because? -- it was never consummated. I am convinced that Chris Carter had planned on Frank and Emma having an affair in the fourth season.

Because the show was cancelled, and Carter had only an episode or two left, he had to make some hard decisions, and couldn't resolve all the prominent story lines. Although the "Frank and Emma" story line was very important, it was secondary to the "Frank and Peter Watts" thread, which ran through the length of the series, and was its moral heart. Carter had set up a brother-type relationship -- both men had the same green eyes, and even the same, athletic gait -- in which Peter appeared to be "Cain" to Frank's "Abel." But that wasn't the case. Peter WAS his brother's keeper, and died to save Frank. That was arguably the dramatically most important thing the final episode did; otherwise, the entire series would have lost much of its narrative and moral coherence.

21 posted on 06/07/2002 9:52:07 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mhking
Thank you so very much.
22 posted on 06/07/2002 9:53:09 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Thanks for the ping- posting this article is representative of the good work done on FR to root out fraud and corruption. Would that some of those paid to do it would do the same.
23 posted on 06/07/2002 10:21:45 AM PDT by mafree
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To: LarryLied
Her whole anthrax story started when she gave it to The Green Party in Germany.

Right. Thanks for reminding us. Remember when that got recycled back here by the media, as if it was something serious? If we had actually known the source of the story was some pinko environmental science professor from a some no-name college, would we have taken it seriously for a moment? But then, that's par for the course when it comes to anthrax mythology. The standard spin before Nuthatch Rosenberg was the rightwing militia theory, seeded into the public domain by Bob Woodward in the Washington Post. That one was starting to fray around the edges, because too many reports were appearing about the sophistication of the anthrax. Of course, before that myth, there was the "mountain stream" myth. The only constant in the officially-nurtured spin on the anthrax is that it's always baloney.

24 posted on 06/07/2002 10:40:29 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: mrustow
If there's nothing to this, why do you figure Bush and the White House were already on Cipro before 9/11?
25 posted on 06/07/2002 10:45:29 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Very good compilation

Thank you for your kind words.
Just trying to make sense of the data deluge.

Best Freegards,
26 posted on 06/07/2002 11:05:52 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: Plummz
If there's nothing to this, why do you figure Bush and the White House were already on Cipro before 9/11?

Source?

Cheney went on Cipro on the evening of 9-11, according to the Washington Post. Saddam's logical next move was pretty obvious, given that (a) he is a sitting duck for US retaliation and (b) the only WMD we know he has at his disposal is anthrax. Even if no explicit threat was communicated, it really wasn't particularly hard to figure out what the possibilities for a followup were.

27 posted on 06/07/2002 11:25:43 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: mrustow
You know, I actually was one of the few people that watched Milleneum and I have seen the episode mentioned in the article. I never put two and two together. I also agree that the writers who had been let go from the X-Files, and then hooked up with Milleneum produced stories that left the X-Files "in the dust".
28 posted on 06/07/2002 11:26:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Cicero
Also, there seem to have been at least two groups of anthrax victims. That cases in Florida, which were connected with the terrorists there through their landlady was one strand. The letters sent to Daschle and Leahy, which contained military grade anthrax, and may have caused the deaths in New York and Connecticut, were probably sent by someone else.

Don't swallow the guff about the anthrax being different in Florida. That was aerosolizable, military grade, too -- only maybe mixed up in a paste. It killed people, remember. Nobody in the entire history of the world had been killed by weaponized anthrax until a few days after a team of twenty Middle Eastern hijackers seized four airliners, knocked down both towers of the World Trade Center, ploughed into the Pentagon and tried to destroy the White House. Coincidence? I don't think so!

BTW, I think the anthrax sent to the hijackers' landlord was a goof. Seems like Atta had a very sick sense of humor.

29 posted on 06/07/2002 11:33:16 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Wolfie, mhking, mrustow, KC_Conspirator
I was never entirely sure that Frank was right about the Millenium Group. He had evidence against them, but that evidence could easily have been turned around to show that the Millenium Group was actually doing things to stop another group, or rogue splinter elements within their own organization.

Despite his powers, Frank was certainly fallible in his decisions (For example, when he let that gas station attendent get killed in the “urban legend” episode. They never addressed that major screw up.)

But since Fox cancelled the show, we’ll never know much of what happened in all the various plotlines.

The “wrap-up” on X-Files was beyond lame and didn’t tell anybody much.

My favorite episodes were any ones with Lucy Butler. She was seriously evil. I wonder which episodes were the favorite of the obvious "Millenium" fan, Barbara Hatch Rosenberg.

30 posted on 06/07/2002 11:54:02 AM PDT by dead
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To: The Great Satan
The evening of 9/11 is still before the antrax hit DC. I recall a Washington Post article that was removed from their archives and sent to the memory hole, where the White House refused to answer how long Bush and some senior staff had been on Cipro.
31 posted on 06/07/2002 12:34:58 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: mafree
Thanks for the ping- posting this article is representative of the good work done on FR to root out fraud and corruption. Would that some of those paid to do it would do the same.

I think it works something like this:

Step I: Lurking mainstream pundit/editor sees FR vanity post or archive tying together different strands of factual research that the media have either ignored, or been too timid to follow up on, and jokes to his colleagues, "Look at those wackos!"

Step II: Mainstream pundit/editor sees well-researched article from web news provider (e.g., Toogood Reports, World News Daily, frontpagemag, enterstageright), digging up conections, and finding smoking guns that the media have either ignored, or been too timid to follow up on, and again jokes to his colleagues, "Those nutjobs never quit!," but thinks to himself, "Hmm, this story might have legs."

Step III: The editor starts seeing more e-zine articles, and begins getting query letters pitching exposes on the topic from "losers" (i.e., freelancers who went to the "wrong" schools, and aren't friends of any of his friends). Although never intending to run the "loser's" work, the editor either tells the writer to submit a lengthy manuscript "on spec" (meaning, with no obligation on the editor's part), which the editor will plagiarize in an article, or give to a colleague to plagiarize for an assigned article, or he'll run with the query letter and plagiarize the already published articles.

Step IV: The editor and/or pundit bask in the accolades and awards for the big expose.

P.S. The above scenario is only partly speculative. For anyone who thinks I'm exaggerating or paranoid, consider this: How many times have you seen an article or column by a big-name writer, or published by a brand-name outlet, that echoed a recent FR post? How often have you heard a mainstream writer give credit to FR, in helping him break a story?

Mind you, I'm talking about the most "respectable" houses here, including the New York Times.

32 posted on 06/07/2002 1:12:26 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: LarryLied; The Great Satan
Her whole anthrax story started when she gave it to The Green Party in Germany.

Right. Thanks for reminding us. Remember when that got recycled back here by the media, as if it was something serious? If we had actually known the source of the story was some pinko environmental science professor from a some no-name college, would we have taken it seriously for a moment? But then, that's par for the course when it comes to anthrax mythology. The standard spin before Nuthatch Rosenberg was the rightwing militia theory, seeded into the public domain by Bob Woodward in the Washington Post. That one was starting to fray around the edges, because too many reports were appearing about the sophistication of the anthrax. Of course, before that myth, there was the "mountain stream" myth. The only constant in the officially-nurtured spin on the anthrax is that it's always baloney.

A google search turns up many early European stories from late 2001 and early 2002. One of the first such stories is in German, from January, 2002. So it looks like you've figured out her m.o. -- use European environmentalist and media organizations, in order to get her foot in the door of the American media.

Her first big hit in the U.S. was to my knowledge -- or rather Cliff Kincaid's knowledge -- Jerry Seper's February 25 Washington Times story.

33 posted on 06/07/2002 1:20:25 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: Plummz
If there's nothing to this, why do you figure Bush and the White House were already on Cipro before 9/11?

Nothing to what? It's pretty hard to respond to vague, accusatory, rhetorical questions. As for your White House Cipro claim, I'd love to see some factual support for that.

34 posted on 06/07/2002 1:22:50 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Wow. Thanks for the information.
35 posted on 06/07/2002 1:56:32 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: mrustow
hopefully, FAS.org didn't post *this* particular piece of trash of hers on the FAS site ... if so, shame on FAS.org ...

nonetheless, evidence does seem to point to homegrown anthrax ... or a homegrown "distributor" ... it would seem Saddam would have picked different targets rather than Brokaw and Daschle, et al ... though I must admit the first time I heard "anthrax" I susupected Saddam (cf: HBO's "The Doomsday Gun") ...
36 posted on 06/07/2002 2:30:56 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: mrustow
Thanks for the explanation- makes sense.
37 posted on 06/07/2002 2:33:53 PM PDT by mafree
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To: mrustow
I think Rosenberg's German Green party connection was mentioned on FR in November or December. I may have even posted it. Don't recall.
38 posted on 06/07/2002 3:06:25 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Sure thing.
39 posted on 06/07/2002 5:38:35 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: 11B3; abwehr; Alamo-Girl; angkor; aristeides; Betty Jo; Black Jade; bluefish; boston liberty...
Ping, in case you missed this.
40 posted on 06/07/2002 5:45:06 PM PDT by Nogbad
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To: KC_Conspirator; mhking; mrustow
Loved Millenium as well, except for Frank's wife. My husband and I referred to her regularly as "pensive woman" -- the actress seemed to display the same brooding, fearful countenance during every show!
41 posted on 06/07/2002 5:56:41 PM PDT by pettifogger
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To: Bobby777
hopefully, FAS.org didn't post *this* particular piece of trash of hers on the FAS site ... if so, shame on FAS.org ...

I don't believe they did, but then, her FAS "report" is a pedantic piece of work that is hard to get that much out of. What she does is tailor her story to her audience of the moment. When she spoke to foreign journalists, they would help her out, by claiming to have their own FBI sources, supporting her wild CIA scientist-assassin story.

nonetheless, evidence does seem to point to homegrown anthrax ... or a homegrown "distributor" ... it would seem Saddam would have picked different targets rather than Brokaw and Daschle, et al ... though I must admit the first time I heard "anthrax" I susupected Saddam (cf: HBO's "The Doomsday Gun") ...

If you have evidence supporting the "home-grown" assassin theory, I'd love to see it. I've heard many a CLAIM that such evidence exists, but I've never seen anyone come up with any. Meanwhile, mucho evidencia points to foreign terrorists.

42 posted on 06/07/2002 5:58:07 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mafree
Thanks for the explanation- makes sense.

A lot of self-styled conservatives won't admit to that scenario, but it is why political correctness is only one of the reasons society is the way it is.

43 posted on 06/07/2002 6:14:27 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: VOA
Rosenberg would issue a new press release (with no new facts) and the media would run it as if they had never reported it before.

Since that report about the Ag. Dept. loan officer who said she had the encounter with Atta, about half of the news reports I've heard have presumed that what Atta planned to do was fill the passenger cabin with a tank...in order to fill it with fuel in order to use the plane as a smaller version of the 9-11 planes.

These reports don't mention the possibility that Atta was going to fill the tank with anthrax or some other noxious biological or chemical weapon.

The anthrax last year may have been domestic...but the press and the guvmint just seem cock-sure that it couldn't have been foreign origin. Got to find a white male right-winger to pin this one on!

Remember how, at first, we heard that scientists could determine the exact lab the anthrax came from? Genetic fingerprints, and all that? We don't hear any of that cocksure talk any more.

44 posted on 06/07/2002 6:29:05 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: NYCVirago
See #32.
45 posted on 06/07/2002 6:32:10 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: The Great Satan
Wasn't it weaponized anthrax that killed those people in Sverlovsk?
46 posted on 06/07/2002 6:41:49 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: pettifogger
I thought the daughter, Jordan made up for ol' Forehead Crease.She was just perfect.
47 posted on 06/07/2002 6:47:34 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: dax zenos
fyi
48 posted on 06/07/2002 6:54:32 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: anthrax
Bump to list.
49 posted on 06/07/2002 6:55:05 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: Plummz
Huh?
50 posted on 06/07/2002 7:17:53 PM PDT by JENINMO
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