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Lawyer: Accused Man Knew of Attacks

Posted on 05/24/2002 1:03:26 PM PDT by Dallas


An Egyptian-born financial analyst charged in a nationwide stock swindle may have known about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and tried to profit from them, a federal prosecutor said Friday.

Amr I. "Tony" Elgindy telephoned his broker on Sept. 10 and asked him to liquidate his children's $300,000 trust account, Assistant U.S. Attorney Ken Breen told a federal judge at Elgindy's detention hearing.

"He made a comment predicting the market would drop to 3,000" at a time when the Dow Jones stock index was at 9,600, Breen said. "Perhaps Mr. Elgindy had pre-knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks. Instead of trying to report it, he tried to profit from it."

Elgindy, 34, of Encinitas, was ordered held without bond on charges of racketeering, extortion and obstruction of justice. Before issuing the order, Magistrate Judge John Houston said he was going to "disregard" the suggestion that Elgindy had anything to do with the terror attacks.

Elgindy, wearing a tan jumpsuit, did not speak during the hourlong hearing.

His attorney, Jeanne Knight, said Elgindy did call his broker to make a trade, but the timing was coincidental and the market had been dropping for months.

"It seems like the government, for lack of factual evidence, has decided to smear my client with terrorist innuendoes," Knight said. "This is smacking of racial profiling."

Breen made his accusations as prosecutors tried to convince Houston that Elgindy was a flight risk and should be denied bail.

Elgindy, one of five defendants in the case, was arrested May 22 on an indictment issued by a grand jury in New York.

In exchange for money, two FBI agents used confidential databases to provide Elgindy and other co-conspirators with information on publicly traded companies, the indictment said.

Elgindy allegedly spread negative information about the companies on his Web site and to subscribers of his e-mail newsletter,, while betting that the companies' stock would go down.

In one case, a former FBI agent searched the agency's confidential National Crime Information Center database and discovered the criminal history of a top executive for a company called Nuclear Solutions, the indictment said. The same day, Elgindy began sending e-mail calling the executive "a convicted felon," then sold the company's stock short, the papers said.

Earlier this week, FBI agents raided Elgindy's $2.2 million mansion. Inside, agents said, they found tens of thousands of dollars in cash and gold coins. The government is seeking to seize Elgindy's fleet of cars, including a Rolls Royce, a Jaguar and a Humvee.

If convicted of all counts, Elgindy faces a maximum 65 years in prison.

Copyright © 2002, The Associated Press

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 20010910; 200205; 20020522; 911; amrelgindy; amrielgindy; breen; democrats; elgindy; fbi; hanging; hanssen; idaho; kennethbreen; khaledelgindy; nuclearsolutions; pacific; roberthanssen; robrthanssen; siliconinvestor; suicide; tonypacific
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1 posted on 05/24/2002 1:03:26 PM PDT by Dallas
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To: Dallas
Interesting posts and info here, too

Connected to the American Muslim Council!

2 posted on 05/24/2002 1:11:36 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
A Related Thread
3 posted on 05/24/2002 1:29:07 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad
Gut feel or tinfoil -- but this feels like a big one.
4 posted on 05/24/2002 1:32:39 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Dallas
Makes you wonder about how many of our agents "moonlight" and don't get caught?
5 posted on 05/24/2002 1:37:08 PM PDT by miamimark
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To: swarthyguy
If you go to this site you can find archives of his site and site. There are some interesting pictures of his brother, his possessions, his wife, his cohorts.
6 posted on 05/24/2002 1:38:58 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Dallas; rdavis84; rummychick; thinden; mancini; Plummz; Sal; Wallaby; Nita Nupress; aristeides
Check this out.
7 posted on 05/24/2002 1:39:41 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: miamimark
WOnder if they're reviewing all the cases these agents worked on during their FBI careers.
8 posted on 05/24/2002 1:47:05 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Fred Mertz;Uncle Bill;askel5;rdavis84
Fred,here is the Wall Street Journal version:


Terror Probe catches stock shorter in its periphery

Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:20:14 -0400

From the WSJ

Heard On The Street

Terror Probe's Long Tendrils Reach Into Wall Street's Fringe



The investigation that led to charges against five people, including a current and a former FBI agent, with using confidential government data to manipulate stock prices was an almost accidental result of probes into the Sept. 11 terror attacks and to some degree convicted spy Robert Hanssen.

Authorities began looking into the activities of Anthony Elgindy, an Egyptian-born investor who was among those indicted, as part of the wide-ranging net cast by investigators looking for potential financiers of Muslim groups with links to terrorism last fall, according to a Federal Bureau of Investigation official.

That inquiry found nothing connecting Mr. Elgindy with terrorist groups or their financing, but eventually led authorities to believe he was getting information from FBI insiders, who clued him into confidential data about public companies facing criminal problems or investigations. So close was Mr. Elgindy to Jeffrey Royer, the former FBI agent charged in the case, that Mr. Royer wrote a letter identifying himself as an FBI agent vouching for Mr. Elgindy's help "in combating fraudulent activities via the stock market and Internet."

The indictment, which alleges that he used the information from two rogue federal agents to target stocks and to extort free or cheap stock from companies, puts the spotlight on investors and companies operating on the fringes of Wall Street.

Mr. Elgindy, a widely followed but controversial stock trader and commentator on the Internet, was known for mostly taking aim at very small companies with little revenue or earnings. Many get no attention from analysts at big investment firms, and don't even trade on a stock exchange, but rather are quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board, a quotation service for tiny stocks. As a result, they often are thinly traded -- with relatively few shares bought and sold each day -- and thus are easier to manipulate than bigger stocks.

The origins of the FBI's terror-related interest in Mr. Elgindy are unclear. But it might have stemmed from a tip that was provided by angry executives from small companies who banded together to fight him for wreaking havoc on their stock by short-selling -- selling borrowed shares in hopes of turning a profit if the stock falls.

After Sept. 11, these executives approached the FBI with a tip about Mr. Elgindy's possible short-selling of key industry stocks ahead of the terrorist attacks, the executives involved said. His adversaries also pointed out that Mr. Elgindy is a Muslim whose brother, Khaled Elgindy, is active in Islamic advocacy groups in Washington. Khaled Elgindy delivered humanitarian aid to Iraqis in May 1998 with a U.S. group called the International Relief Association, according to news accounts at the time.

A person with knowledge of the probe said the Securities and Exchange Commission also looked into whether Mr. Elgindy profited from the attacks, but found nothing untoward. Neither did a Justice Department inquiry, an official said.

At some point last year, however, the FBI's interest into Mr. Elgindy morphed into a securities-fraud investigation of his trading patterns. Last fall, the FBI got in touch with the SEC for help in analyzing his trading records. Piquing the investigators' interest was the quality of the information he was putting out over the Internet about companies he focused on. Some of it seemed to make references to criminal histories that could have come from the FBI's National Crime Information Center database, while other tidbits seemed to come from the FBI computerized case-file system.

"A lot of that information would be considered insider information and could impact companies and stock prices," said the FBI official. "It didn't take much to figure this information is coming out of our confidential files."

Once authorities realized that, they began focusing the investigation internally by tracing who inside the FBI was accessing the databases. FBI agents are given individual passwords and logons to use the systems, and there are electronic trails every time they access the databases. In the aftermath of the Hanssen spy case, the agency has become much more diligent in tracking who accesses what internal computer files and why.

"Computers are a dangerous thing," noted another FBI agent familiar with the case. "You can tell who is looking at what cases. And in this case, it raised the question: Why in the hell would somebody in Albuquerque be looking at some of these cases?"

The investigators had additional suspicions raised when one of the accused Albuquerque-based agents, Mr. Royer, left the FBI last Dec. 21 to work for Mr. Elgindy. "That definitely raised some suspicions," the agent said. It was apparently around this time that Mr. Royer wrote the letter supporting Mr. Elgindy's effort to be released early from a three-year probation sentence for mail fraud in an unrelated matter, saying that Mr. Elgindy "has gone above and beyond to assist law enforcement and civil regulatory agencies." The letter adds, "His insight and technical abilities have been directly responsible for providing valuable information resulting in eight major investigations."

The letter, which isn't dated but bears a fax stamp dated Dec. 27, 2001, was included as an exhibit to a civil suit in San Diego County Superior Court between Mr. Elgindy and his former lawyer, Matthew Tyson. (Mr. Elgindy's motion to be released from probation early was denied on Jan. 31, according to the clerk's office in the federal court in Fort Worth, Texas.) A lawyer for Mr. Royer declined to comment on his client's indictment or on the letter.

After Mr. Royer left the FBI, the agency watched him, while also keeping an eye on information that was being accessed, which later led to a second FBI agent in Albuquerque, Lynn Wingate, who also was charged in the case, the agent added.

In December, Nuclear Solutions Inc., based in Meridian, Idaho, one of the companies targeted by Mr. Elgindy, complained to the FBI about his activity, according to a person familiar with the matter. Mr. Elgindy, using information passed on to him by a former FBI agent, told subscribers to his Web site that an executive at the company was a "convicted felon."

Nuclear Solutions, which had zero revenue last year and a net loss of $1.3 million, according to its annual report, was typical of the companies that Mr. Elgindy targeted. Its stock was traded for about $3.30 a share in mid-December on the OTC Bulletin Board when its shares began being shorted around Dec. 19. The stock currently fetches $1.08, and the company's total market value is about $11 million. Officials at the company didn't return calls seeking comment.

Nuclear Solutions was the only company named in the indictment as one in which Mr. Elgindy used confidential government information to try to knock down the shares. But the indictment alleges that Mr. Elgindy used confidential information on five other companies.

In addition, Mr. Elgindy had many other short-selling targets in the past. One was SeaView Video Technology Inc., a St. Petersburg, Fla., maker of underwater video cameras. SeaView had $732,000 of revenue last year and a net loss of $2.8 million. Its stock trades for 35 cents on the OTC Bulletin Board, and the company's market value is about $11 million.

SeaView said that Mr. Elgindy once called saying that he was a reporter seeking information about the company, but didn't connect him with short-selling in its stock. No evidence has been released that Mr. Elgindy's short-selling resulted from an FBI probe into the company.

Mr. Elgindy has never been one to mince words about stocks he doesn't like. On April 3, he posted a message on Silicon Investor, a popular Web site for discussing stocks, calling Golden Star Resources Ltd., a Littleton, Colo., mining company, "a complete and utter turd." It isn't clear if he sold the stock short.

The stock traded for $1.42 on the OTC Bulletin Board at the time Mr. Elgindy posted his comment, and now fetches $1.96 amid a broad rally in mining and gold-related stocks. Golden Star Resources Chief Executive Peter Bradford says he doesn't believe he has ever spoken with Mr. Elgindy, although he said it is possible the two talked by telephone. "I get calls from brokers all the time and I hang up on them," he said.

On occasion, Mr. Elgindy would target somewhat larger stocks. In late March, he told readers on Silicon Investor that Aksys Ltd. was "overvalued" and two days later he posted a report on his Web site,, about the Lincolnshire, Ill., maker of dialysis equipment. Aksys shares traded for $8.78 on the Nasdaq Stock Market at the time Mr. Elgindy made his remarks. They currently fetch $5.81, giving the company a market cap of about $147 million. Aksys Chief Executive Bill Dow says he never spoke with Mr. Elgindy and adds the report published by the trader contained inaccuracies and quoted him out of context.

9 posted on 05/24/2002 1:55:14 PM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Donald Stone
Necktie party bump....
10 posted on 05/24/2002 2:01:15 PM PDT by tracer
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To: Donald Stone; Fred Mertz
"A person with knowledge of the probe said the Securities and Exchange Commission also looked into whether Mr. Elgindy profited from the attacks, but found nothing untoward. Neither did a Justice Department inquiry, an official said."

This might be Crow to eat sometime later.

11 posted on 05/24/2002 2:29:42 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Fred Mertz
Does indeed sound like this guy knew something was going down. This story complete ignores the non-investigation of the put options taking out the airlines and reinsurers, though.
12 posted on 05/24/2002 3:08:39 PM PDT by Plummz
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To: rdavis84; thinden; mancini; Boyd; Sal
Where are thinden and mancini?
13 posted on 05/24/2002 7:33:22 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Dallas
Knight said. "This is smacking of racial profiling."

Well, what if we don't smack and do a racial full-face?

14 posted on 05/24/2002 7:38:23 PM PDT by al_possum39
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To: Fred Mertz; thinden; Mancini
"Where are thinden and mancini?"

Mancini went to Italy to see her godfather on some "business matter" and Thinden went to Happy Hours and Hours.

I think they're both still alive.

15 posted on 05/24/2002 8:00:09 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Fred Mertz
Thinden is good at this stuff.

Apparently, Congressional investigators aren't.

16 posted on 05/25/2002 7:23:08 PM PDT by Boyd
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To: rdavis84;Fred Mertz;thinden
Hey guys! I'm baaacckkk! What a great time--can't wait to go back! Rdavis, you'll have to go with next time :-) Shrub was heading into Rome, we were headed out. Works for me!

Fred, I am thinking that 9/11 was the best-kept secret of ALL TIME considering the numbers of people that probably knew about it. We are so out of the loop.

17 posted on 05/29/2002 10:50:26 AM PDT by mancini
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To: mancini
Sorry, I can't understand you for the accent you picked up.

You say that you and Bush met in Italy? And Laura wasn't with him? Sounds like we NEED to know about all this!

Brush up on your English a bit and fill us in.

18 posted on 05/29/2002 11:58:31 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84; thinden
Maybe she brought us back some pasta.
19 posted on 05/29/2002 11:59:48 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz; Thinden
"Maybe she brought us back some pasta."

I'm hoping it's more like a racket we can run for her godfather. Something like Land Deals where you scam the SBA out of money on nearly worthless property. They Force Money on Women Business Owners!

Wonder if there's such a thing as The GodMother in the rackets?

20 posted on 05/29/2002 12:13:16 PM PDT by rdavis84
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