Here we go my friend...puke till your heart's content...
Posted on 05/21/2002 4:50:56 PM PDT by AuntB
JOHN DAY, Or. Frustration is boiling over in Eastern Oregon's Grant County as logging that has always been the rural county's lifeblood slips away, taking jobs and families with it.
Locals are mounting Oregon's own brand of Sagebrush Rebellion, challenging federal management of surrounding national forests. They know it could spark the kind of angry confrontation that has flared where other Western counties have attempted to take control of public land.
But they say Grant County has no choice.
"For us, we have nothing more to lose," says Herb Brusman, a hunting guide and former federal trapper. "It's nothing but a win-win situation. They can't take anything more away from us, so we can't help but win."
Their vehicle is a Tuesday ballot measure authored by Brusman and Dave Traylor, both longtime county residents. They maintain it will give locals license to cut hazardous or fire-prone trees on federal lands in the name of public safety, with or without U.S. Forest Service permission.
Others say it is a wildly misguided proposition likely to get unsuspecting citizens arrested and fuel anti-government sentiment.
"Something needs to be done, but not everyone agrees on what needs to be done," says Jennifer Barker of Bear Valley, who with her husband was named Oregon's tree farmer of the year in 2000. "People can't just go out and decide that for themselves."
The measure declares that county citizens may "participate in stewardship of natural resources on public lands within the County, when those resources or the use of those resources becomes detrimental to the health, welfare or safety of the people."
A county attorney has found the measure vague and unenforceable, because federal environmental laws overrule county mandates. Federal forest rules do not allow people to freely cut trees on their own.
Measure aims to let citizens step in But the measure says anything that violates the Constitution "will not be considered law." Brusman and Traylor say that mandate, plus a document outlining the county's customs and cultures, will give citizens the right to step in wherever the Forest Service fails to cut dead and dying trees.
"We'll have grandmas, we'll have kids, we'll have so many people when we go out there, it will be like arresting a cross-section of Grant County if they try," says Traylor, a burly Vietnam veteran and jack-of-all-trades who sells powered parachutes, logs part time and likes the Discovery Channel.
An accompanying ballot measure by Brusman and Traylor would prohibit United Nations actions within the county. They claim the United Nations wants to seize private land and firearms, which they see as a precursor to erasing communities in the rural West.
The U.N. measure goes so far even the ultraconservative John Birch Society -- which advocates getting the United States out of the United Nations -- disowns it as unconstitutional.
But some local leaders suspect the conservative county of about 7,500 will pass both measures, leading Oregon into the so-called county supremacy movement. A sequel to the Sagebrush Rebellion of the 1980s, the movement has led counties in Nevada, New Mexico and other states to claim control of federal lands in their borders.
Authorities turned back most of those efforts, but not before enraged crowds faced down law officers.
"It appears to give people a right that they do not have," said Nancy Nickel, the local district attorney before she was recalled earlier this year. "It could create a great deal of trouble for a lot of well-meaning people, and that won't do our county any good."
Jobless rate is twice the state average The county's frustrations can be counted in shuttered businesses on the streets of its small towns, once-humming sawmills that run on reduced shifts and the loss of nearly 200 students from its schools in the last two years. It has the second-highest unemployment rate in Oregon -- twice the state average. Census figures show the county population has fallen by about 500 since 1998.
With its population about 1 percent of Multnomah County's, Grant County covers 10 times the ground -- roughly the size of Connecticut. Almost two-thirds of it, including the scenic Strawberry Mountains and vast reaches of ponderosa pine, falls within the Malheur National Forest.
A 1990 plan by the Malheur predicted cutting of 211 million board feet of timber each year, a number some federal foresters now admit they could never maintain. As endangered species protection for fish and the Canada lynx posed new hurdles, commercial logging fell to 15 million board feet by 2001.
Some local sawmills have closed, while others haul logs from Canada and other states to keep their blades turning.
The national forest lost 24 percent of its funding this year and is cutting jobs because it is not cutting timber.
Some locals last year asked the county court -- akin to a county commission in urban counties -- to order U.S. flags flown upside down as a sign of distress.
"The pent-up frustration and the fear people have that they might have to move is very real," says County Judge Dennis Reynolds, who heads the court. "It's a way of life people are trying to fight for. They feel their way of life is being jeopardized by uninformed people who make rules, regulations and laws."
But Reynolds says he cannot back the ballot measure.
"It tears me up what's happening to people and this county, but this can't be the way we deal with it," he says. "The way we deal with it is not to thumb our noses at the law."
Locals see jobs in logging forests that are clogged with wood from decades of firefighting -- and now more ready than ever to burn. But the national forest's shrinking staff often needs years to shepherd timber sales through a maze of environmental and endangered species reviews.
And every project faces appeals from environmental groups arguing that cutting timber harms the forest more than it helps.
"Things aren't happening, and they aren't happening fast enough," says Malheur Forest Supervisor Bonnie Wood, target of a campaign by local businessmen to have her removed. "For me, it's a hugely personal frustration because I like the place and I like the people. I'm embarrassed about where we are because I thought we'd be further by now."
Environmental reviews required Traylor and Brusman say their measure builds on a trial program set up five years ago to let citizens buy individual dead or dying trees at market value. A big ponderosa could be worth a few thousand bucks to someone who knew how to mill it into siding or molding, they say.
But the national forest halted the program in 1999 when it turned out people were claiming trees and selling them to sawmills at a profit. New rules also would have forced the stretched forest staff to review the environmental impacts of cutting each tree, Wood says.
It makes more sense to advance larger projects where the fire hazard is most extreme, she says.
Wood says she wants to work with the community to clean up flammable reaches of forest, but all logging requires environmental reviews and a federal permit or contract. If citizens simply cut trees themselves, as Traylor and Brusman suggest, they will violate Forest Service regulations and probably the Endangered Species Act and other federal laws.
The Forest Service would have to stop them, she says.
"What they do dictates what we will do," Wood says. "If people are thinking, 'We pass this and everything will be fine,' that's not true, because this is a national forest, and there are laws and regulations we have to follow."
She fears the ballot measure will drive a deeper wedge between the Forest Service and the community, while endangering forest employees.
"Frustration can lead to something else, so in that sense, I am concerned," she says.
Others worry that supporters of the measure may use the provision that voids anything contrary to the Constitution as a shield to break laws they don't like.
"Anything they decide is contrary, they're not going to follow, and that's kind of scary," says Tammy Bremner, the town manager in Canyon City. "We don't know who will determine whether something is constitutional."
No one reviews county measures for accuracy or constitutionality. So Bremner spent a Sunday afternoon on the Internet and found that the United Nations Charter does not call for seizing private land, world taxation or other steps the U.N. ballot measure says it does. Brusman and Taylor now acknowledge the error but argue they are still part of the U.N. agenda.
Citizens could insist the county enforce the two measures, Bremner says, while federal authorities could take action against the county if it does.
"You have to go through proper channels if you want to change something, you don't just pass laws that make everyone else look foolish," she says. "We're trying to build credibility here, and this isn't the way to do it. We need to work together to turn things around."
You can reach Michael Milstein at 503-294-7689 or by e-mail at michaelmilstein@news.oregonian.com.
I found this the most troubling statement in this story....THAT is how we get some of these stupid land use laws in the first place.
It's been about 4 years since I was in Grant County...we were hot in the impeachment debate. I was on a mission to "educate rural Oregon" about land use or lack of and the babbitt jaugernaut coming at us. I wrote an article about that, but it's lost on the old computer and in the FR archives, somewhere. Bottom line was there wasn't much I could tell the good people of Grant County. They had it figured out then. In particulat was a giant wooden carved sign on the main highway that read, "CLINTON, CHINA, TREASON".
I wish them luck, at least they are trying the ballot box first.
Notice how the Oregonian refers to the John Birch Society as "ultraconservative" (they're not. I am).
Also notice how the town manager is worried about who will interpret the Constitution and "decide what is constitutional and what is not." Suppose she reads it for herself without being held by the hand by Somebody Who Knows Better For Her.
That Forest Service Supervisor should be removed. As should the National Park Service Park Supervisor for the New River Gorge Area.
These people listed above make me want to vomit!!!!!
'Pod
Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!
Molon Labe !!
Until the locals and their states grow a set, this will continue.
Wasn't about one year ago when you got us involved in the attempted Rural Cleansing of the Klamath Basin ranchers and farmers by our new nazis, the Green Enviro Nazis?
There are pent up feelings in the west ... they almost surfaced full bore in Klamath last year. Any effort to violently silence these people or their efforts to maintain and save their way of life in the face on encroaching and increasing beaurocratic tyranny will lead to a much more general and wide spread situation.
In such an environment ... the logistics required to maintain tanks and other large forces gets very dicey ... particularly if local National Guard units start wondering who the real enemy is.
It's gotta stop sometime.....and I really like going to Oregon.
redrock
Worry about the new and worse Oregon state police under the heavy hand of the Oregon Governor, Katznslobber. Those undercover people watching you and others in the Klamath Basin last year came right out of the OSP left wing ranks. The uniform guys are still for the most part trust worthy.
We have the samething happening in Kaliland. Our California Highway Patrol under Herr Davis is not the same group of guys and gals that Davis inherited.
Hi AuntB. Good post. We have a duty to thumb our noses at the law when the law is wrong. We are in this situation because we didn't thumb our noses at the toads who were responsible for getting bad laws passed.
I like this part: "But the measure says anything that violates the Constitution "will not be considered law."
That's the way it should be across the land. It should be a given. Hopefully, if we all chip in (many hands make for light work), finding and doing our part, we can help to turn the tide back towards freedom and liberty.
4/19!
minuteman
"[I]t is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
--Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering
I am not be able to be there in person to help but if you or Jeff are going over there to assist them let me buy ya'll a weeks worth of groceries at the very least to off set yer efforts cost's.....
Stay Safe !
I know that they were about 10 X 12 deep around the speakers that 4th of July weekend, and the Freepers were thinking that they were feds. Wrong!
It is amazing what corrupt left wing governors, power and money can do to state police forces.
Thanks for the feedback!
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