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AB2222 (.50 cal ban) Fails to Pass CA Assembly Committee Vote
www.nramemberscouncils.com (Via email) | 4/23/02

Posted on 04/23/2002 7:04:40 PM PDT by Redcloak

CAL-ERT 04/23/02 1:45 P. M.
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Today's Legislative Activity - AB2222

http://www.nramemberscouncils.com/calerts/calert042302.shtml

AB2222 (Koretz) was voted on Today, April 23, 2002, in the Assembly Public Safety Committee.  AB2222 FAILED TO GET ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS! 

To all of you that repeatedly contacted the legislature in opposition to AB2222, THANK  YOU ! ! !  Your efforts were successful. 

AB2222 would have banned and/or heavily restricted the ownership, possesion and use of .50 caliber rifles. 

AB2222 failed due to the votes of members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee from both parties. 

Voting "NO" were Assembly Members Washington (Chairman), Dickerson, Keeley, and LaSuer.  Abstaining was Assembly Member Diaz

ACTION REQUESTED: Please contact these Assembly Members and THANK THEM FOR NOT SUPPORTING AB2222

Washington, Carl.Washington@assembly.ca.gov (916) 319-2052
Diaz, Assemblymember.Diaz@assembly.ca.gov (916) 319-2023
Dickerson, Assemblymember.Dickerson@assembly.ca.gov (916) 319-2002
Keeley, Fred.Keeley@assembly.ca.gov (916) 319-2027
LaSuer, Assemblymember.Lasuer@assembly.ca.gov (916) 319-2077

REMEMBER, saying THANK YOU is as important as asking them to vote our way. 

For complete in legislative contact information go to: http://www.nramemberscouncils.com/legs.shtml .

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 50calban; banglist; firearms; guncontrol; koretz; rkba
Thanks to all of those who called, emailed, faxed, etc.. What Koretz proposed was beyond absurd, it was obscene. Law abiding Americans should not be made liable for what foreign terrorists might do.
1 posted on 04/23/2002 7:04:40 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak
Im shocked, a gun control measure didnt pass in California.
2 posted on 04/23/2002 7:09:01 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Redcloak
This is surprising, a .50 ban seems like the best possible move from a gun-banning standpoint.
3 posted on 04/23/2002 7:09:49 PM PDT by xm177e2
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It would force gun rights activists to defend a weapon most people don't think of as necessary.

(I'm not anti-gun, I just think politically it would be to their advantage to try to ban this)

4 posted on 04/23/2002 7:10:48 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: *Bang_list

5 posted on 04/23/2002 7:53:53 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: glock rocks
A good news bang from the Golden State.
6 posted on 04/23/2002 7:56:42 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: xm177e2
True. But at the same time, those who own the things tend to be rather wealthy, and highly respected members of the community.

The price of those rifles almost guaruntees that. It would not be easy to paint those folks as militia nuts.

7 posted on 04/23/2002 7:58:01 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Euro-American Scum

boomp.

8 posted on 04/23/2002 8:41:23 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: Redcloak
Even the blind squirrel occasionally funds a nut.
9 posted on 04/23/2002 8:41:31 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: glock rocks
A T & T
10 posted on 04/23/2002 9:38:31 PM PDT by earonthief
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To: xm177e2
"It would force gun rights activists to defend a weapon most people don't think of as necessary."

"Necessary?" So what? Cadillacs and Jaguars and those limos Hollyweirdos ride to their Earth Day protests in sure aren't "necessary," either - but we don't want them banned!

Once you go down the slippery slope of "necessary," the next thing the antigun nuts will want is that .375 H&H you hunt brown bear with - or even that .308 deer rifle of yours. After all, it isn't "necessary" to hunt when you can buy food at any supermarket, is it?

Scandals of antigun politicians - from Kalifornia to Manhattan!

11 posted on 04/23/2002 9:57:32 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: xm177e2
The Antis just haven't been able to sell the .50 BMG to the general public as a "sniper super-weapon". Given that no crimes have been committed with them, no amount of ranting and raving seems to work. And their arguments are too easily deflated by calling these guns precisely what they are: high-end target rifles.
12 posted on 04/23/2002 10:49:26 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Travis McGee, sailor4321, Mercuria, Hangfire, AnnaZ

13 posted on 04/24/2002 6:35:07 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Redcloak
Or what they might not do. Paul Koretz's legislation is totally unnecessary. Not even the most rabid gun banners can point to a SINGLE example of a .50 caliber weapon being used to commit a crime. The truth is its not even a criminal's first weapon of choice. Even the Rats own committee saw that wouldn't really take something off the streets most people can't afford to own anyway. Hopefully, it'll chill for a while the constant stream of anti-gun proposals being passed every other day by the State Legislature. I don't think that meets any one's definition of "reasonable" gun control. Let's give the existing laws on the books the chance to work first.
14 posted on 04/24/2002 6:40:59 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Euro-American Scum
A good news bang from the Golden State

I'm amazed this happened, given the horrid stuff proposed and passed by the Calif. legislature. An interesting impact of the proposed restrictions is an increase in orders for .50 Cal rifles. The lead time on orders has jumped based on demand. Cool!

15 posted on 04/24/2002 6:49:54 AM PDT by toddst
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To: toddst
That happens every time they do something like this. When Gray Davis signed several gun bills during his first year in office, gun sales shot up. Several of us nominated him for "Gun Salesman of the Year". Perhaps Barrett et al will send a nice thank you card to Assemblyman Koretz!
16 posted on 04/24/2002 8:45:02 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak;wardaddy;Squantos;Joe Brower;harpseal
BTTT
17 posted on 04/24/2002 9:34:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
I will be damned.....I'm suprised.
18 posted on 04/24/2002 9:38:32 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Redcloak
Done....I thanked them all. Well done. I'm suprised.
19 posted on 04/24/2002 9:45:05 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: toddst
I'm amazed this happened, given the horrid stuff proposed and passed by the Calif. legislature.

Yes, go figure. Just when you think you've got Cali-Socialists figured out. . .

20 posted on 04/24/2002 11:49:57 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Redcloak
That happens every time they do something like this. When Gray Davis signed several gun bills during his first year in office, gun sales shot up.

As is happening now. I've been in the market for a Glock 30 since January. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Nary a one. Last month at a local gun store I frequent, I found one in the display case and grabbed it.

During the course of filling out the DROS paperwork, the store manager told me he got a shipment of 50 such pistols in on Monday of that week and had sold 42 of them by the time I came in (Thursday). I figured I better grab one before they disappeared forever.

Of course, state handgun licensing, which begins in California in January couldn't possibly have had anything to do with it. . . NOT!

21 posted on 04/24/2002 11:54:01 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Euro-American Scum
This is amazing news. Go California gun owners!
22 posted on 04/24/2002 11:57:15 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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To: Redcloak

I'm glad to read this.

On the channel 9 KCAL(aka CBS)news last night here in LA, they spoke differently. They had three announcements of what was hitting the GOV's desk;

1. Legal driver's licenses for illegal immigrants.

2. Equal insurance benifits for queer couples.

3. .50 cal rifle ban.

None of the other LA stations(I actually didn't watch channel 2 KCBS) carried the same story.


23 posted on 09/16/2004 7:54:26 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (So "F'n" means "flip-flopping"? ><BCC>)
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To: glock rocks; TexasCowboy; Eaker; humblegunner

Delivering a .50 caliber Victory Bump - -


24 posted on 09/16/2004 8:01:09 AM PDT by LadyX (((( To God be all praise and honor and glory -- ))))
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To: xm177e2
"It would force gun rights activists to defend a weapon most people don't think of as necessary."

No problo. The 2nd Amendment already has that covered. Something about 'necessary to the security of a FREE state.'

But then, Freedom is not based on 'need' anyway. It's based on choice.

25 posted on 09/16/2004 8:23:12 AM PDT by Eastbound ( "Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be.")
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To: hchutch; LadyX; Eaker; humblegunner; Squantos; HoustonCurmudgeon
"those who own the things tend to be rather wealthy, and highly respected members of the community."

Thanks for the victory bump, Maggie!

Yeah, hc, I'm rather wealthy. I just sit on these drilling rigs for months at a time because I like the sound of the engines.
Seriously, it's a matter of priorities, like everything else. With as much fun as I have with my M99, I don't mind that I had to give up my ballet lessons.

As far as respect in the community, I've learned that if I crawl across my lawn in my cammos and gilly suit and set my .50 up with my neighbor's house in the field of fire, he does respect me.

26 posted on 09/16/2004 8:29:54 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: LadyX
"Delivering a .50 caliber Victory Bump - -"

??

This is a two year-old story. Arnie just signed a ban into law the other day.

No victory, just another example of why we don't allow the foreign-born to become president.

27 posted on 09/16/2004 8:30:39 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Blue Collar Christian

That was two years ago.

Arnold signed bill AB-50 this week, banning all .50BMGs in CA.


28 posted on 09/16/2004 8:35:40 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: TexasCowboy
Mrs Shriver (Ahhhhnuld) signed the ban into law a few days ago...THE 50 IS BANNED IN CA...............done deal TC !

Read yer dates !.......:o)

Stay Safe

29 posted on 09/16/2004 8:36:27 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: TexasCowboy
Mrs Shriver (Ahhhhnuld) signed the ban into law a few days ago...THE 50 IS BANNED IN CA...............done deal TC !

Read yer dates !.......:o)

Stay Safe

30 posted on 09/16/2004 8:37:14 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Redcloak
I'm confused.

Didn't Arnie just sign the ban on .50 calibers?
How many damn committees does California have in their law making process?

The NRA was wrong about this one time before.

31 posted on 09/16/2004 8:38:00 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: TexasCowboy; LadyX; TheMom; humblegunner; Squantos; HoustonCurmudgeon
I had to give up my ballet lessons.

It shows!!!

32 posted on 09/16/2004 8:38:46 AM PDT by Eaker ("He's the kind of guy who would fight a rattlesnake and give the snake a two-bite head start.")
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To: nightdriver

Should also be a reason why we should be more careful not to vote potential RINOs in.


33 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:31 AM PDT by Ladysmith (9-11-01: Never Forget! http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Squantos
Thanks, Squantos!

I thought the last of my brain cells had self destructed.

34 posted on 09/16/2004 8:39:31 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: TexasCowboy
Happens to all of us. (mostly to Eeeek !) I expect you to keep me up to date too......:o)

Stay Safe

35 posted on 09/16/2004 8:56:12 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: TexasCowboy
Obviously someone went digging through the archives.

AB2222 was a ban attempt from 2 years ago. AB50 was this year's attempt. Unfortunately, it passed. Gun owners in this State no longer have friends in the legislature like Roderick Wright (D - L.A.) to put a stop to bills like this. Aaaahnold, who's knowledge of firearms is limited, signed the bill. Of course, all the bill will really accomplish will be record sales of .50 cal firearms between now and Jan. 1st.

36 posted on 09/16/2004 9:49:34 AM PDT by Redcloak (Vikings plundered my last tag line.)
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To: Redcloak
"Aaaahnold, who's knowledge of firearms is limited,"

Director:

"Now, Arnold, you're supposed to be the Terminator!
You've got to learn where the trigger is on that pulse phasor!"

37 posted on 09/16/2004 11:03:36 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: ctdonath2

Boy, do I feel stupid. I searched for the story on Aaanold Shriver's(D-CA)signing of the .50 cal ban I saw on the news and didn't check the date of this story. Well, at least I FELT good for the day. That's what this new law is about anyway, isn't it? Feelings?


38 posted on 09/16/2004 9:41:37 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (So "F'n" means "flip-flopping"? ><BCC>)
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