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Huge hydrogen stores found below Earth's crust
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| April 15, 2002
| Robert Matthews
Posted on 04/15/2002 6:58:27 PM PDT by pragmatic_asian
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This is exactly why we should support alternative energy research. A discovery like this should have the Arab oil countries evacuating their pants enclosed bowels. I wonder what those Arab oil countries are going to do once the spigot runs dry and their populations continue to grow.
To: pragmatic_asian
Very interesting.
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04/15/2002 7:01:49 PM PDT
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Nachum
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To: Nachum
Should probably put a "NO SMOKING" sign down there.
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posted on
04/15/2002 7:02:54 PM PDT
by
Davea
To: Davea
Sounds like it could really be an explosive situation for the ME.
It could just rain on their parade.
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posted on
04/15/2002 7:05:13 PM PDT
by
dts32041
To: pragmatic_asian
What will they do? Launch WW3. With what is up to us. In the meantime, let's pursue alternative energy sources and bankrupt them.
To: coteblanche
,,, sounds like the value of Canada's going up [LOL!]
To: pragmatic_asian
I guess they'll sit around griping about how "Allah" hasn't given all those infidels the punishment they deserve. Who knows? Maybe it'll dawn on them that they've been worshipping a phoney "idol" all this time while the one true God was blessing everybody else in the world.
To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
I agree. Fuel cell technology using hydrogen would drain the terror swamp pretty darn well, IMO.
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04/15/2002 7:11:43 PM PDT
by
Bosco
To: pragmatic_asian
We could use the hydrogen to run ocean mining machines, because there's 10 billion tons of gold under the sea!
To: pragmatic_asian
that as much as 1,000 litres of hydrogen may be trapped in each cubic metre of rock.>/i> Is he talking about free hydrogen here??? If so, its hard to believe this hasn't been "discovered" until now. If true, why isn't hydrogen release a hazard in mining operations? If he's including hydrogen in any form, including the H2 in the water in the rocks, then the claims are an exageration. Something is missing from this report, and I am a sceptical of the broad claims for this new "discovery."
To: pragmatic_asian
Now hold on everybody. This might just be a very dangerous thing. As this stored/bound hydrogen is consumed, it will attach to an oxygen atom. The result is water. All that water vapor will make the atmosphere more dense and the planet much warmer. And worse yet, the oxygen will become depleted in our atmosphere. Which will require using the hydrogen as a power source to break the water into its constituent gases. But that would mean more hydrogen bonding with more oxyge.....no....this is a very very bad idea!
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04/15/2002 7:17:48 PM PDT
by
hove
To: pragmatic_asian
Some alternative energy research claims that the water vapor released by burning Hydrogen will become even more dangerous than CO2 and the other gases in our atmosphere because it holds more heat than CO2.
Whatever happens will.
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04/15/2002 7:18:58 PM PDT
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doxteve
To: pragmatic_asian
If you pay close attention, you see that the costs of extracting the hydrogen probably exceed the energy obtained.
To: pragmatic_asian
"The low yield of energy from burning hydrogen compared to gas, however, means that vast quantities of rock would have to be mined."And just how vast are we talking?
To a certain degree this just sounds like more environmentalist pie in the sky stuff.
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04/15/2002 7:20:01 PM PDT
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Kerberos
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To: hove
The oceans will easily absorb all the water created by human burning of hydrogen. It will add about 1/100th of an inch to the level of the oceans in the next ten centuries. The level of oxygen in the air will be regulated automatically by the natural combustion of forests, houses, etc. With a little less oxygen in the air, it will be a safer world; with a little more, our houses and trees would be burning like crazy.
To: Enlightiator
If he's including hydrogen in any form, including the H2 in the water in the rocks, then the claims are an exageration. Something is missing from this report, and I am a sceptical of the broad claims for this new "discovery." Strikes you that there's a few technical details missing in this report, too?
They are handwaving some very difficult things; such as exploration technology, drilling/mining technology, extraction technology, and a few things like unto that.
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04/15/2002 7:25:12 PM PDT
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Ole Okie
To: pragmatic_asian
This is stupid. It's not free hydrogen, takes more energy to get it than you get by burning the hydrogen. Lots of hydrogen in water too. So, what.....it's already burnt.
To: pragmatic_asian
Studies by the team of common rock types such as granite and olivine have revealed extraordinarily high levels of trapped hydrogen. Professor Freund said that his team had "tantalizing evidence" that as much as 1,000 litres of hydrogen may be trapped in each cubic metre of rock. Although formidable engineering problems remain to be overcome in abstracting the gas, the sheer volume of the Earth's crust means that such a high concentration would solve the world's energy problems. So basically they are going to have to grind up million of meters of rock to get some hydrogen? Doesn't sound very practical.
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