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The Country Music Country Radio Ignores
New York Times ^ | March 24, 2002 | NEIL STRAUSS

Posted on 03/25/2002 9:19:56 AM PST by southern rock

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To: southern rock
A New Wave guy pretty much said all this 25 years ago.

Radio Radio
by Elvis Costello

I was tuning in the shine on the light night dial
doing anything my radio advised
with every one of those late night stations
playing songs bringing tears to me eyes
I was seriously thinking about hiding the receiver
when the switch broke 'cause it's old
They're saying things that I can hardly believe.
They really think we're getting out of control.

Radio is a sound salvation
Radio is cleaning up the nation
They say you better listen to the voice of reason
But they don't give you any choice
'cause they think that it's treason.
So you had better do as you are told.
You better listen to the radio.


I wanna bite the hand that feeds me.
I wanna bite that hand so badly.
I want to make them wish they'd never seen me.


Some of my friends sit around every evening
and they worry about the times ahead
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference
and the promise of an early death
You either shut up or get cut out;
they don't wanna hear about it.

It's only inches on the reel-to-reel.
And the radio is in the hands of such a lot of fools
tryin' to anaesthetise the way that you feel


[Chorus]

Wonderful radio
Marvelous radio
Wonderful radio
Radio, radio...

61 posted on 03/25/2002 10:35:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: mamelukesabre
I haven't seen anyone mentions marty robbins or junior brown or......aw man, can't think of his name right now. He played co-star in a john wayne movie......the texan in "rooster cogburn".

Glenn Campbell?

Truly one of the most talented -- and underrated -- artists of all time. Sadly, his co-writer for most of his hits (the guy's name escapes me at the moment) passed away a year or so ago.

62 posted on 03/25/2002 10:35:21 AM PST by Gurn
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To: FreeTally
Alan Jackson changed the name of a song for a car company to use: That would be the Ford Motor Co., which employed his father and put food on young Jackson's table for a number of years. Alan also appeared gratis at an employee-appreciation get-together in Dearborn a year or two ago.
Loyalty and gratitude are not really such bad things.
63 posted on 03/25/2002 10:35:56 AM PST by Redbob
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To: southern rock
I'm really thinking of getting one of them XM Satellite Radio things.

Check out their Country music offerings.

64 posted on 03/25/2002 10:36:10 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: tallhappy
The 70's and 80's arena rock sound was and is the equivalent of this bland commerical country music today -- except this bland commerical country is still 100 times better than 70's rock.

Well, I'd have to ask exactly which "70's and 80's" rock you mean. In the context of "rock" music, I don't see REO Speedwagon, STYX or Foreigner being any less comparable to Toby Keith, Kenny Chesney or Faith Hill in the context of "country music". None of its that bad if you are not looking for ground breaking ideas or musicianship.

65 posted on 03/25/2002 10:37:25 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: Walkin Man
The corporate interests have a death grip on the radio

And with that death grip, can you see them playing the spiritual songs from "O Brother"? Can't have people thinking too much about God and religion...
66 posted on 03/25/2002 10:37:41 AM PST by NatureGirl
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To: Redbob
Loyalty and gratitude are not really such bad things.

No. But producing mindless pablum and labeling it "country music" is all but unforgivable. Take away the steel guitar and/or ocassional fiddle, and he'd be on a top-40 station. His music is crap, familial/employment loyalty notwithstanding.

67 posted on 03/25/2002 10:38:24 AM PST by Gurn
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To: FreedomPoster
Elvis C. was ahead of his time and one of the great songwriters IMHO. He sure pegged radio!
68 posted on 03/25/2002 10:38:57 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Huck
Anyone want to sing the praises of BJ Thomas, Freddy Fender, Tanya Tucker, or Ronnie Milsap?

Freddy has done some really great Tejano stuff - check out his collaboration with Doug Sahm for great Tex-Mex. Not exactly hillbilly, but good roots music. Tanya's early hits were pretty good - I love her voice on "Blood Red and Going Down". BJ is a hack, Milsap makes nice MOR country with little excitement. Neither one is fit to hold Hank Snow's jockstrap!
69 posted on 03/25/2002 10:39:37 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan
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To: tallhappy
I think that the fans for this old stuff aren't necessarily country music fans or in that demographic. Those listening to country music stations may well think the old type stuff is strange sounding.

I have always seen it like this: My parents grew up in the 50's and early 60's. They primarily listen to "Oldies" stations to hear rock&roll from their youth. Sure, they will listen to some new stuff, but the radio stays on the oldies station. Its no different with "country & western". While there are younger people interested in both 50's R&R and classic country, the numbers are pretty slim. Many are music students(thats how I was exposed to alot myself). Compared to contemporary music, there are few stations on the air that play "Oldies" and classic country. I say few in meaning you typically womt find more than one of each in medium sized markets.

70 posted on 03/25/2002 10:42:50 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: mamelukesabre
Was that Glenn Campbell in "Rooster Cogburn"?

g

71 posted on 03/25/2002 10:44:16 AM PST by Geezerette
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To: tallhappy
I can't remember the last time I bought a new album.

Probably been awhile, since albums have not been released in a couple of decades.

72 posted on 03/25/2002 10:44:25 AM PST by zevonfan
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To: NatureGirl
And with that death grip, can you see them playing the spiritual songs from "O Brother"? Can't have people thinking too much about God and religion...

No I can't see it sad to say. Maybe you have hit on a reason for no airplay of bluegrass as many of the songs are about God and Jesus. Down To The River To Pray and Angel Band are my favorite songs on OBWAT. I guess muslims\non-belivers\(insert group here) wouldn't buy toothpaste from the sponsers of the radio station that played that!

73 posted on 03/25/2002 10:44:32 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Gurn
That's the one!

".....but I never picked cotton. But my mother did, and my brother did, and my daddy died young.......workin in a coal mine....."

Hmmm, I hope I got the right song matched up with the right singer.

Junior brown: "I'm justa doin my job, I'm the highway patrol..."

Marty Robbins: "....cool......clear.....waaater...."
74 posted on 03/25/2002 10:45:30 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
".....but I never picked cotton. But my mother did, and my brother did, and my daddy died young.......workin in a coal mine....."

That's a Johnny Cash song.

75 posted on 03/25/2002 10:46:52 AM PST by Gurn
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To: FreeTally
How do you feel about Brad Pasiley? He is one of the few "new country" people on the radio that I enjoy. I feel that he mixes traditional and current sounds rather well. He is the only one that comes to mind right now.

BTW, I was a the George Strait Country Music Festival two years ago at FEDEX Field in DC and alot of people left before George even went on. All of these little girls and gay boys left after Tugg's son (AKA Mr. Faith Hill) went on. George went on to play an awsome set of his greatest hits from the eighties with only a few new songs. I was loving it, Oceanfront Property, Does Ft. Worth ever cross your mind, The Chair, and so on. I still enjoy George even if he does stupid commericals for that Farm supply store.
76 posted on 03/25/2002 10:55:18 AM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: tallhappy
In the current case the country music being ignored by radio is hugely commericially popular.

At least the O Brother soundtrack is. Is Alison Krauss or Nickel Creek selling millions of records? Krauss's newest album peaked at #3 on the country charts, and is certified gold, which is a mere 500,000 copies. Nickel Creek peaked at #13. Top 20 is good, real good, but if you look at the Billboard country charts, it's not like hillbilly music is blowing the lid off things. Just this one soundtrack.

I think it's a fluke. I mean, O Brother is #1 on the Album charts! Not country albums. ALL albums. But then you have to go down to #51 to find ANY other country album, and it ain't hillbilly music. It's Rascal Flatts, which appears to be a country "boy band." Right behind them are Toby Keith and Tim McGraw, who are the very pop country artists being lamented here. There is not a single bluegrass album in the Top 100. Not one. There's a fluke hit soundtrack of old timey music from a Coen Brothers George Clooney picture. This is much ado about nothing.

That is the strange thing.

Not if you are in the advertising business, which is what radio is. It's all well and good for O Brother to sell units, but if it doesn't fit the demographic, it don't matter how many fiddles and pickers you put in it. Country radio, like all radio, is about ad revenue. And they are better at it than they used to be.

I think that the fans for this old stuff aren't necessarily country music fans or in that demographic. Those listening to country music stations may well think the old type stuff is strange sounding.

Exactly right. The people who listen to the old-timey stuff are music fans. I remember Willie Nelson telling how he got heavy resistance from his label when he presented the concept for Stardust. Willie doing standards? It won't sell! But he knew it would sell, because he understood his audience. Willie knew that his audience was made up of people who like music. Lots of it. And of course, he was right. Same with this soundtrack album. It has nothing to do with "country" music, which is really just pop music with a certain rural flavor to it. It has to do with people who like music buying a soundtrack they liked from a very, very entertaining movie. It figures it's a soundtrack, too. It's a compilation. They get a bunch of artists with one purchase. But hey, I could be wrong.

77 posted on 03/25/2002 10:56:55 AM PST by Huck
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To: CollegeRepublican
How do you feel about Brad Pasiley? He is one of the few "new country" people on the radio that I enjoy. I feel that he mixes traditional and current sounds rather well. He is the only one that comes to mind right now.

I know you weren't asking me, but I'll butt in, since I'm an "alt.country", intolerant ideologue! 8^)

All I can say about brad is that one of my favorite country artists, Charlie Robison, called him "that little moron." You should check out Charlie, BTW. He's married to one of the Dixie Chicks (not Natalie Mains, his wife is the one who plays the banjo and dobro). Reminds me more of Steve Earle than anybody I've heard. Writes great story songs.

78 posted on 03/25/2002 10:59:34 AM PST by Gurn
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To: CollegeRepublican
How do you feel about Brad Pasiley? He is one of the few "new country" people on the radio that I enjoy. I feel that he mixes traditional and current sounds rather well. He is the only one that comes to mind right now.

I really like Brad Paisley and happen to have his first CD sitting in my player here at the office. I too think he mixes traditional and current sounds well. Another one I like is Gary Allan. Some of his more "commercial" stuff is what gets played(well, thats the same with Brad), but he is really good. On his latest album, he has this really good/funny song called "What Would Willie Do?"(kind of a take on WWJD). The think I like about BP is that he writes nearly all of his songs. Thats very rare today.

Oh, and Charlie Robinson is pretty good too. He is married to one of the Dixie Chicks.

79 posted on 03/25/2002 11:00:40 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
Oh, and Charlie Robinson is pretty good too. He is married to one of the Dixie Chicks.

It's Charlie Robison (no "n"). See my post #78. Ironic that you mention Charlie, in light of his comments about Brad Paisely.

80 posted on 03/25/2002 11:02:25 AM PST by Gurn
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