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Is there another Big Bang in our future?
Union Leader ^ | March 24 2002 | George Will

Posted on 03/24/2002 5:07:44 AM PST by 2Trievers

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To: pro-life
The big bang theory was disproved years ago...

You don't understand the big bang theory.

21 posted on 03/24/2002 6:11:05 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
That was when, in a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second, the Big Bang inflated from a microscopic speck to all that now can be seen by NASA's wondrous instruments

Could you explain to me where the speck came from and what lit its fuse?

22 posted on 03/24/2002 6:22:25 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Why?
23 posted on 03/24/2002 6:27:30 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
Forget I asked. It was an obvious mistake and one I won't repeat.
24 posted on 03/24/2002 6:28:58 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jerseyman
Most atheistic scientists have a real problem with the Big Bang theory

Hogwash! Not a single astrophysicist I know has a problem with the Big Bang Model. Sure there is much to be discovered, explained, and revised. However, the basic theory is a sound one.

25 posted on 03/24/2002 6:29:37 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: pro-life
Planetary spin and their orbital elements have absolutely nothing to do with the Big Bang theory.
26 posted on 03/24/2002 6:33:08 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer; Physicist; ThinkPlease; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; edwin hubble
Having all the mass of the universe collapsed to a point would be the mother of all black holes; nothing could "big-bang" its way out of that.

"Plasmology spill in aisle #10; clean-up crew to aisle #10."

27 posted on 03/24/2002 6:36:43 PM PST by longshadow
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Here are a few links about the Big Bang:

http://casswww.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/BB.html

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html

http://scruffy.phast.umass.edu/a114/lectures/lec33/lec33.html

http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bb_pillars.html

http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm

http://cosmology.berkeley.edu/Education/IUP/Big_Bang_Primer.html

28 posted on 03/24/2002 6:52:46 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: jwalsh07
Forget I asked. It was an obvious mistake and one I won't repeat.

OK.

29 posted on 03/24/2002 7:38:17 PM PST by mlo
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To: longshadow
Thanks for the ping. I don't recall reading this line of Weinberg's, but it's a good one:

"The effort to understand the universe is," says Weinberg, "one of the very few things that lifts human life a little above the level of farce, and gives it some of the grace of tragedy."

30 posted on 03/25/2002 2:00:14 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks for the ping. I don't recall reading this line of Weinberg's, but it's a good one: [snip]

Indeed, they had him on CSPAN a few weeks back, and he talked about that very comment. It was quite interesting to hear him talk.

31 posted on 03/25/2002 8:00:17 AM PST by longshadow
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To: mlo
quite a strong statement for somebody who doesnt know me, and who has no ideas of their own, and only chooses to bash others. grow up a little, and seek the truth instead of assuming you know it.
32 posted on 03/25/2002 2:45:51 PM PST by pro-life
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To: RadioAstronomer
if you think about the basic physics of the idea, you would realize that with the mechanism proposed, planetary spin would be the same for every planet. scientists who hold to the big bang wont talk about it because most people dont know to ask the question.
33 posted on 03/25/2002 2:48:59 PM PST by pro-life
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To: pro-life
nothing started spinning extremely fast, and eventually exploded into everything

First there was Nothing. Which Exploded.

Where did the spinning concept come from? It wasn't spinning, it was just a little polyp that suddenly got inflamed.

34 posted on 03/25/2002 2:50:22 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: jwalsh07
Could you explain to me where the speck came from and what lit its fuse?

After you explain who created god and, if he was there always, why he waited so long to get around to creating the universe?

35 posted on 03/25/2002 2:54:20 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: RightWhale
the big bang theory claims that nothing was spinning and that is why everything spun out. they claim this is true because it wouldnt just explode if no energy had acted on it. every idea that makes up this theory is really ludicrous...nothing becoming everything, energy coming in to the nothing from nothing to cause it to spin so fast it exploded, various types of planetary spins, the problems go on and on. the only evidence scientists claim is that some galaxies appear to be moving away from us, however they wont talk about the things that are not moving away from us because that would spoil their dumb theory.
36 posted on 03/25/2002 3:02:23 PM PST by pro-life
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To: RadioAstronomer
From the last link:"The big bang theory states that at some time in the distant past there was nothing. A process known as vacuum fluctuation created what astrophysicists call a singularity. From that singularity, which was about the size of a dime, our Universe was born."

This theory seems to require a remarkable amount of faith. Do you have faith that this is the way it happened? The universe was created from nothing by nothing to no particular purpose?

37 posted on 03/25/2002 3:02:41 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: pro-life
if the big bang were true, they would all spin clockwise.

Hahaha, don't you know anything? There weren't any clocks back then!

38 posted on 03/25/2002 3:04:36 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: Dinsdale
God is outside of time, so to Him, He wasnt waiting to create the universe. God can see the past, present, and future at all times. While i acknowledge that we cannot prove any of this, you cant prove anything from your religion (evolution) either. We will not always understand the nature of God, and that is where faith comes in. It takes even more faith to believe in evolution than to believe in God, because science lines up on the side of the Biblical creation story.
39 posted on 03/25/2002 3:06:56 PM PST by pro-life
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To: Dinsdale
I can't explain it Dinsdale, I take it on faith, I don't pretend to theories explaining what can't be explained. I am an honest guy, I read the link, it requires more faith than than my beliefs do.
40 posted on 03/25/2002 3:07:35 PM PST by jwalsh07
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