Posted on 02/05/2002 12:58:18 PM PST by Double Eagle Sword of Justice
Oh, no. Not again!! (sigh)
Well, thanks for the update.
"My cousin Francis [I of France] and I are in complete agreement -- he wants Vienna, and so do I."
--Emperor Charles V
Both he and his wife ran for public office....
As Libertarians.
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I don’t promote this idea either (You now bear false witness against me) and your opinion of me bearing false witness was presented referencing the following.
If he is such a fine parent then he should be more concerned that the conduct he is in fact promoting on this website is detrimental not only to society but to his children who will have to live in that society. OWK does not promote homosexual conduct.
This is in fact true and not false. OWK through his comments does promote the Sodomite lifestyle by fighting for their cause like it or not.
I also said that I thought the Presbyterians condoned Homosexuality.
In this area I was incorrect, I have found, and apologize for my misunderstanding. It was merely my mistake as I thought wrong.
The Bible does mention folks who are apologists of perverted lifestyles as being no better than those who live these lifestyles. OWK promotes governmental approval of this lifestyle since he promotes the abolishment of the Sodomy Laws. This is my witness.
OWK is standing up for rights that do not exist in our constitution (The right to be publicly perverted) and are similar to the rights some people believe that they have to kill their unborn children. Simply because they believe they have these rights does not make it so and does not absolve them of murder. Unfortunately their perverted views are shared with many people who profess to be Christians. The Bible mentions that there are many so called Christians who are not and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Only God will decide who these people are in the end but I still have the right to express my opinion on their status. This is my witness.
You have advocated imprisonment of individuals for the "crime" of consenting adult homsexuality, on several occasions, have you not?
Surely you are not so profound a dullard as to believe that only those things specified in the Bill of Rights, are rights.....
Are you?
Even the Bill of Rights tells you otherwise.
Have you ever even read it?
Most of the Nazi fags went the way of the Brownshirts. Dead or in a concentration camp.
Is my recognition of the right of consenting adults to consume alcohol, a promotion of drinking?
Is there anything but sawdust in that head?
We do jail people for having sex with animals (This is sodomy too)!
Funky.
He simply does not believe in beating people with a stick to persuade them ~~ I don’t promote this idea either (You now bear false witness against me)
Like heck I am "bearing false witness against you". I said NOTHING about your politics; I made a comment about OWK's politics (i.e., he is opposed to State Force on these matters). I did not attack you; I defended OWK.
If my "beating people with a stick" comment happened to touch a nerve (guilty conscience?), attend to that yourself. I never said you were in favor of such a thing; I merely said that OWK was opposed to such a thing.
In short, you are merely stiffening your neck against the Repentance which the Law of God demands of you, by attempting to "spread the guilt around".
But I bore no False Witness, Khepera. You did.
OWK does not promote homosexual conduct. ~~ This is in fact true and not false.
Exactly Right.
OWK through his comments does promote the Sodomite lifestyle by fighting for their cause like it or not.
No, you had it right just a second ago. It is TRUE, and not false, that OWK does not promote homosexual conduct.
In fact, he further opposes "special rights" for homosexuals;
he wants to de-fund their US-government supported homoerotic "Art" shows;
and he wants to abolish the Public Schools and State Colleges where they propagate their views, and "recruit" impressionable youths.
Why, exactly, were you opposed to OWK again? Do you support these things that OWK is trying to abolish??
I also said that I thought the Presbyterians condoned Homosexuality. In this area I was incorrect, I have found, and apologize for my misunderstanding. It was merely my mistake as I thought wrong.
'S Okay. There's "presbyterians", and then there's Presbyterians. The "mainline" Presbyterian Church of the USA (PCUSA) has "flirted" with the ordination of homosexual presbyters (pardon the repugnant pun).
The ORTHODOX Presbyterian Church (OPC), however, does not even ordain women or divorced men, and does not accept homosexuals as communicant members. (though of course they are welcome to come and listen in our pews, if they are quiet and well-behaved; and should they feel moved by the Spirit to repent and confess Christ, they are then welcome to join the Church)
The Bible does mention folks who are apologists of perverted lifestyles as being no better than those who live these lifestyles. OWK promotes governmental approval of this lifestyle since he promotes the abolishment of the Sodomy Laws. This is my witness.
Absence of Law does not indicate approval of behavior.
The government does not have a Law against my brother poking a sharp stick in his eye, but if my brother asked my opinion of the act, I would tell him that I strongly disapproved.
HOWEVER, if Government had a "Anti-Sharp-Stick-In-Your-Own-Eye" Law, I would oppose it. Not because I want people poking sharp sticks in their eyes, but because it's not THE STATE'S job to try and prevent/punish such acts.
OWK is standing up for rights that do not exist in our constitution (The right to be publicly perverted) and are similar to the rights some people believe that they have to kill their unborn children. Simply because they believe they have these rights does not make it so and does not absolve them of murder. Unfortunately their perverted views are shared with many people who profess to be Christians. The Bible mentions that there are many so called Christians who are not and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Only God will decide who these people are in the end but I still have the right to express my opinion on their status. This is my witness.
Amongst the folks who will not inherit the Kingdom of God, are Idolaters.
Statism is Idolatry.
Examine your premises.
Have you thought about what you would have to do to these otherwise peaceful consenting adult homosexuals, if they decided they didn't want to come away to your jail cell willingly?
Or does your mind not extend that far?
I doubt it -- too many big words.
You do realize of course, that sodomy (at least as recognized by most states who penalize it) is not limited to homosexuality, but in fact includes heterosexual contact between mouth and genitalia... right?
Can we assume that you're willing to subject yourself to those same penalties?
Or do you reserve a special exemption for yourself?
Advocating jail for sodomites is much like advocating jail in a male prison for a female prostitute.
Since they're just going to be the victims of Sodomitic Rape for the next ten years (or whatever sentence you prefer), how exactly have you "prevented" Sodomy? All you've done is declare that the punishment for consensual Sodomy will be ten years of non-consensual Sodomy.
This is supposed to make sense?
I understand those terms and do not exempt myself. Not guilty by the way unless you can prove otherwise. I regret I ran as a Libertarian since after close examination I do not support them.
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