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Effects of 1998 California Smoking Ban on Bars, Taverns and Night Clubs
American Beverage Institute ^ | July 1998 | Unknown

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:38 PM PST by Just another Joe

Effects of 1998 California Smoking Ban on Bars, Taverns and Night Clubs

300 alcoholic beverage serving operations were surveyed. The sample was selected at random from a list of 7,216 beverage license holders provided by the Alcohol Beverage Control. The sample breaks down by property type as follows:

Type of Establishment
Percentage of Respondents
Bar Connected to Restaurant/Hotel
57.3%
Stand-alone Bar/Tavern
35.7%
Nightclub
7.0%

Of the 300 beverage operations surveyed, 3.7% of the establishments did not actively enforce the ban while an additional 22.6% indicated that customers simply ignored the ban. Overall, this implies that smoking still occurs in approximately one out of every four establishments.

The survey results indicate that the majority of establishments (59.3%) experienced a decrease in business since the ban went into effect on January 1, 1998, while 30.3% experienced no effect, 3.7% refused to answer or did not know and only 6.7% experienced an increase in business. The 178 establishments that experienced a decrease in business averaged a 26.2% decrease in sales, with over a third of the establishments (35.4%) experiencing a decline of over 30%. In contrast, the 20 establishments that experienced an increase in business averaged only a 7.8% increase in sales, with the majority (60.0%) experiencing less than 10% increase.

Of the establishments that experienced a decrease in business, 89.3% experienced a decrease in weekday customer traffic and 81.5% experienced a decrease in weekend customer traffic. In contrast, 60% of the establishments that experienced an increase in business experienced no effect to average weekday customer traffic, while 70% experienced an increase in weekend customer traffic.

Separating the respondents by establishment type indicates that bars attached to restaurants/hotels may have been less adversely affected than stand-alone establishments and nightclubs since the ban went into effect on January 1, 1998. According to the survey, only 44.8% of the connected establishments reported a decrease in business, as opposed to 81.3% of the stand-alones and 66.7% of the nightclubs. In terms of average customer traffic, only 47.4% of connected establishments indicated a decrease in weekday counts, while only 37.4% indicated a decrease in weekend counts. The largest percentage of connected establishments reported no effect to either weekday (47.4%) or weekend (49.1%) counts. In direct contrast, 79.6% of stand-alones and 61.9% of nightclubs indicated decreases in weekday customer traffic, while 75.0% of stand-alones and 57.1% of nightclubs indicated a decrease in weekend customer traffic.

The smoking ban appears to have had the following negative impact on the respondent's operations:



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This was only 7 months after the smoking ban went into effect in California. Yet the anti forces would have us believe that it hurt no business and actually helped!
I wonder how many of those businesses have gone OUT of business by now?
1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:38 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: *puff_list
I know that this is old but I just found it and thought that it deserved a look.
I just don't know how the antis can lie with straight faces about things like this.
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:38 PM PST by Just another Joe
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3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:40 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Just another Joe
Smokers are the FAR better tippers.
4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:40 PM PST by Askel5
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To: VRWC_minion; Bob J; LurkerNoMore!; Ms. AntiFeminazi; IronJack; Seeking the truth; MinuteGal...
Hmmm...guess the next FRN cruise won't be on THAT ship....
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by diotima
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And that is fine, as long as it's the BUSINESS that does it and NOT the government.
I'm glad that you found somewhere to take a vacation that caters to your tastes.
6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Askel5
Yes, we do.
But don't think that the government is going to take that into account when they go to put the total ban in place.
7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: diotima
Hmmm...guess the next FRN cruise won't be on THAT ship....

I'd guess that you are correct in that assumption.

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Just another Joe
I don't know about where you live, but you'd play hell getting a table at most any (decent) restaurant in my part of California...as to "bars,taverns and night clubs"...drinking and driving laws probably have as much effect as anything.
9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: diotima
Hmmm...guess the next FRN cruise won't be on THAT ship....

That's too bad. I'm sure I would have liked it just fine. :)

10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:48 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: lewislynn
I don't know about where you live, but you'd play hell getting a table at most any (decent) restaurant in my part of California...

Did you ever think that there might be fewer restaurants now?
That might put more people into the ones that DID remain afloat?
I'm not stating this as a fact, just a supposition.

11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:48 PM PST by Just another Joe
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Please also note that businesses that went bust weren't around to respond to this survey. I worked in one of those businesses.
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:50 PM PST by WillaJohns
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Aske15 - better tippers?

Sure, but they'll be dead soon so why keep the money?

13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:50 PM PST by Menmy38
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To: Just another Joe
I wonder how many of those people refusing to go out for fun also quit their jobs for the same reason....can't smoke there either.

I smoked for over thirty years and still didn't like someone smoking while eating.

The fact that not allowing smoking caused business to drop off is more an indication of the pathetic hold people allow a cigarette to have on their lives....

OH GEE, I can't leave the house....what would I do if I have to do without my cigarette for 30 minutes?

14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:51 PM PST by lewislynn
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Please also note that businesses that went bust weren't around to respond to this survey. I worked in one of those businesses.

This survey was only 7 months after the ban went into effect.
Had the business you worked for went under that quickly?

15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:54 PM PST by Just another Joe
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Overall, this implies that smoking still occurs in approximately one out of every four establishments.

Unka Rob is gonna be maaaaad....

16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:54 PM PST by Redcloak
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I wonder how many of those people refusing to go out for fun also quit their jobs for the same reason....can't smoke there either.
There IS a difference. People can usually survive wothout going out to drink or eat.
Without a wage coming in it's a little different.

I smoked for over thirty years and still didn't like someone smoking while eating.
I also have smoked for about thirty years. I don't mind someone smoking in the same room with me while I eat as long as they are not blowing it in my face.
If the business has a decent ventilation system this isn't usually a problem.

The fact that not allowing smoking caused business to drop off is more an indication of the pathetic hold people allow a cigarette to have on their lives....
When I go out to eat a GOOD meal I pay between $80 and $120 for my faminly to eat. My idea of a good meal includes a cup of coffee and a cigarette at the end.
Why on earth would I want to go out and pay that kind of money for a meal that I wouldn't consider GOOD?

OH GEE, I can't leave the house....what would I do if I have to do without my cigarette for 30 minutes?

I'm sorry that you feel that way about smokers. I can, and have, gone days without any type of nicotine whatsoever.
I enjoy smoking but it does NOT control my life.

17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:55 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Menmy38
Sure, but they'll be dead soon so why keep the money?

And if you say so it MUST be true, right.
I'm guessing that you haven't known any smokers that lived to a ripe old age.
I have. I've known smokers that died young and I've known nonsmokers that died young.
Yes, there is a risk factor involved in smoking. There is also a risk factor involved in driving a car.
Both are risks that are taken voluntarily.

18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:56 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Askel5
Yeah, this smoking ban reminds me a little bit of the Taliban. NO MORE MUSIC! NO MORE DRINKING! WOMEN DON'T SHOW YOUR FACES! NO ONE SMOKES!

I guess this is all OK with Mullah Davis

19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:07 PM PST by ChinaThreat
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To: Just another Joe
1) This survey was conducted by an interested advocacy group. Would you believe the results of a survey about abortion if it were conducted by Planned Parenthood?

2) The fact that something precedes an event, does not establish a causal relationship.

3) This survey is missing a "control" group necessary to establish a cause and effect.

4)The hospitality industry is a b!t(h - a large percentage of businesses fail with no outside intervention.

You may agree with the conclusions, but it is still junk science and propaganda.

20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:17 PM PST by NY.SS-Bar9
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