Posted on 09/27/2001 11:42:45 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
Whatever, this is an interesting fact; thanks. I need to check out Post #60, too. Keep posting this good info, pls.
Why couldn't this be a depiction of EA990 going down?
Where do these guys get this 'hitting a building' stuff?
Looks to me like this bird is injured and about to go down ...
Has anyone paired-up the buildings shown here with what may be standing in various middle-eastern countries?
But in the larger version, posted later, the “smoke” looks like a dark cloud, and the “sun” looks to me like an explosion in the air, with the series of white dots showing the path of the airplane, after the explosion in the air. Since the Egypt Air flight did not explode in the air or go down in flames, I’m thinking this might be a painting of flight 800, or (which is very likely) this is just an artist’s “interpretation” of the Egypt Air crash.
Note that the Statue of Liberty is out of place, so this seems to be a general “symbolic” NY skyline.
Looks kinda like skylines seen near the water's edge in several locales on this planet (exc for what only suggests may be the S-O-L) ...
It it that the conspiracy theorists *want* us to think 'NY'?
It *seems* to me that an Islamic calendar just might be remembering an EA flight, after all who would possible be FLYING to Egypt (I don't recall specifically just where this flight was heading)?
I think they're remembering EA990 ... the conspiracy theorists among us (YOU know who you are) are simply trying, once again, to co-opt this into their usual conspiracy-spin.
Because no other skyline has a Statue of Liberty.
I covered that base in my previous reply ... BUT - you're assuming the locale based on the statue and ignoring the principle that the S-O-L suggests ... it also appears to be a veiled woman ala 'Taliban suggested woman's dress' replete with full facial covering ...
BTW - that looks to be a departing flight from the city not a flight into the city (hence my repeated suggestion that it is EA990 remembered and NOT as the conspiracy minded around us would forever in undying repetition suggest) ...
Seen it - dismissed it (it's NOT, of course, even one of the WTC towers).
I *wonder* how many ordinary pictures I could turn into conspiracy-oriented stuff if I put my mind to it ...
That’s a French “Liberty” outfit if ever I saw one. That’s the Statue of Liberty in the painting. She’s holding a raised torch in her right hand, there are “rays” sticking out of her headdress, and she’s holding the book in her left arm. Your eyes must be going bad.
This is an “artist’s composite”, a montage of a crash and the NY skyline. When I worked as a magazine editor, I worked with an art director to make things like this up so we could get a lot of stuff in one drawing. This probably represents the Egypt Air crash, but the explosion and flames were probably added from the Flight 800 crash for “artistic effect”. The wing tip hitting the water reminds me of video of that crash off the coast of Africa about 5 years ago. The Statue of Liberty was merely moved so it would fit into the picture. The buildings are probably not any particular real buildings, just a mix of Manhattan-type buildings on the skyline.
I remember when I worked for the magazine, there is something in the.... I think it’s the copyright law or some other law that says that commercial artists can’t copy buildings exactly without the permission of the owner of the building. That might be part of international law too. That’s probably why the WTC towers are covered up by the low cloud. Also, that's probably why the building painted in the eyeglasses ad is a simulation of a Manhattan-type building, but it’s not a painting of a real building. It looks a little like the Empire State Building, but it’s not.
I attribute that to the 'power of suggestion' - which is nearly all the conspiracy theorists have to work with ...
The suggestion being - if it involves NYC then it MUST by default also involve the WTC (somehow, miraculously and always) ...
I attribute that to the 'power of suggestion' -
EXACTLY! There are no WTC towers in the painting. This is a painting that is supposed to look like lower Manhattan as seen from the South, from either Governor’s Island or Brooklyn Heights, but with no specific buildings being depicted. The area where the WTC towers “should be” is covered up by clouds. They aren’t there, but the Statue of Liberty is. The Statue is what makes it New York, not Cairo, London, or Paris. I never said “it involves the WTC”. I said this painting is about either the Egypt Air crash or the Flight 800 crash. Since this is an Egyptian calendar, I would say this is supposed to depict the Egypt Air crash, in an “artist’s conception” montage.
Well, Fred, I'm glad to hear you say that -
- even if I had to drag you and the the entire FR site along to that conclusion kicking and screaming the entire way ...
At the point, I presume, where breakup of the airframe took place (if at all - approx 16,000 feet) ...
Check the charts in this thread:
Chapter 4: The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed
The last effort they [Islam] made to destroy Christendom was contemporary with the end of the reign of Charles II in England and of his brother James and of the usurper William III. It failed during the last years of the seventeeth century, only just over two hundred years ago. Vienna, as we saw, was almost taken and saved by the Christian army under the command of the King of Poland on a date that ought to be among the most famous in history-- September 11, 1683.
The Great Heresies by Hilaire Belloc (Sheed and ward, 1938), pg. 70-71.
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