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Physics looks for new Einstein as nature rewrites laws of universe
Times Newspapers Ltd. ^ | September 9 2001 | Jonathan Leake

Posted on 09/09/2001 1:05:44 PM PDT by telos

A GROUP of astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, must be rewritten. The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to exist. "It is becoming increasingly likely that the rules we had thought were fundamental through time and space are actually just bylaws for our bit of it," said Rees, whose new book, Our Cosmic Habitat, is published next month. "Creation is emerging as even stranger than we thought." Among the ideas facing revision is Einstein's belief that the speed of light must always be the same - 186,000 miles a second in a vacuum. There is growing evidence that light moved much faster during the early stages of our universe. Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists. Cosmology - the study of the origins and future of our universe - became popular in the early 20th century for physicists who wanted to think the unthinkable about creation. Einstein's theory of relativity, which describes how gravity controls the behaviour of our universe, was one of cosmology's greatest triumphs. But Einstein said there was an even deeper issue, which he described as whether God had any choice. In other words, could the laws that governed the way our universe formed after the big bang have worked any differently? He concluded that they could not. In the past 40 years, however, the increasing power of astronomical instruments has turned cosmology from a theoretical science into a practical one and forced scientists to re-examine Einstein's conclusions. Among the most striking claims is that our universe only exists because of a fine balance between several crucial factors. One is the rate at which nuclear fusion releases energy in stars such as the sun by squashing hydrogen atoms into helium and then other elements. Astronomers have found that exactly 0.7% of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into starlight and that if this figure had been just a fraction different then carbon and other elements essential to life could never have formed. Another puzzle is the so-called "smoothness" of our universe, by which astronomers mean the distribution of matter and radiation. In theory, the big bang could have produced a universe where all the matter clumped together into a few black holes, or another in which it was spread out evenly, forming nothing but a thin vapour. "It could be that the laws that govern our universe are unchangeable but it is a remarkable coincidence that these laws are also exactly what is needed to produce life," said Rees. "It seems too good to be true." What he, Hawking and others such as Neil Turok, professor of maths and physics at Cambridge, are now looking at is the idea that our universe is just one of an infinite number of universes, with different laws of nature operating in each. Some universes would have all their matter clumped together into a few huge black holes while others would be nothing more than a thin uniform freezing gas. However, Hawking and his colleagues increasingly disagree over how this "multiverse" could work. At the conference Hawking dismissed the idea of a series of big bangs on the grounds that it extended into the infinite past and so could never have a beginning.


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KEYWORDS: space; stringtheory; tinfoilhat
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Paranoid conspiracy theory? More to heaven and earth than is dreamt of in Man's philosophy? You be the Judge.
1 posted on 09/09/2001 1:05:44 PM PDT by telos
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To: telos


A GROUP of astronomers and cosmologists has warned that the laws thought to govern the universe, including Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, must be rewritten.

The group, which includes Professor Stephen Hawking and Sir Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, say such laws may only work for our universe but not in others that are now also thought to exist.

"It is becoming increasingly likely that the rules we had thought were fundamental through time and space are actually just bylaws for our bit of it," said Rees, whose new book, Our Cosmic Habitat, is published next month. "Creation is emerging as even stranger than we thought."

Among the ideas facing revision is Einstein's belief that the speed of light must always be the same - 186,000 miles a second in a vacuum. There is growing evidence that light moved much faster during the early stages of our universe.

Rees, Hawking and others are so concerned at the impact of such ideas that they recently organised a private conference in Cambridge for more than 30 leading cosmologists.

Cosmology - the study of the origins and future of our universe - became popular in the early 20th century for physicists who wanted to think the unthinkable about creation.

Einstein's theory of relativity, which describes how gravity controls the behaviour of our universe, was one of cosmology's greatest triumphs. But Einstein said there was an even deeper issue, which he described as whether God had any choice. In other words, could the laws that governed the way our universe formed after the big bang have worked any differently? He concluded that they could not.

In the past 40 years, however, the increasing power of astronomical instruments has turned cosmology from a theoretical science into a practical one and forced scientists to re-examine Einstein's conclusions. Among the most striking claims is that our universe only exists because of a fine balance between several crucial factors.

One is the rate at which nuclear fusion releases energy in stars such as the sun by squashing hydrogen atoms into helium and then other elements. Astronomers have found that exactly 0.7% of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into starlight and that if this figure had been just a fraction different then carbon and other elements essential to life could never have formed.

Another puzzle is the so-called "smoothness" of our universe, by which astronomers mean the distribution of matter and radiation. In theory, the big bang could have produced a universe where all the matter clumped together into a few black holes, or another in which it was spread out evenly, forming nothing but a thin vapour. "It could be that the laws that govern our universe are unchangeable but it is a remarkable coincidence that these laws are also exactly what is needed to produce life," said Rees. "It seems too good to be true."

What he, Hawking and others such as Neil Turok, professor of maths and physics at Cambridge, are now looking at is the idea that our universe is just one of an infinite number of universes, with different laws of nature operating in each.

Some universes would have all their matter clumped together into a few huge black holes while others would be nothing more than a thin uniform freezing gas.

However, Hawking and his colleagues increasingly disagree over how this "multiverse" could work. At the conference Hawking dismissed the idea of a series of big bangs on the grounds that it extended into the infinite past and so could never have a beginning.


2 posted on 09/09/2001 1:10:43 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: telos
Einstein's belief that the speed of light must always be the same - 186,000 miles a second in a vacuum.

Now, it all depends on the meaning of: 'light', 'mile', 'second' and 'vacuum'. Doesn't it?

3 posted on 09/09/2001 1:13:29 PM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: StriperSniper
Thank you.
4 posted on 09/09/2001 1:13:41 PM PDT by telos
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To: Physicist, ThinkPlease, RadioAstronomer, purple haze, PatrickHenry, VadeRetro
cosmology bump
5 posted on 09/09/2001 1:13:49 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
The good new is, words have meanings.
6 posted on 09/09/2001 1:15:00 PM PDT by telos
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To: jpsb
bump.
7 posted on 09/09/2001 1:16:53 PM PDT by Justa
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To: StriperSniper
This is just an outgrowth of supersymmetric string theory. It's not that big of a deal.
8 posted on 09/09/2001 1:18:27 PM PDT by jimkress
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To: telos
I'm working on it. When I'm rerady to publish my research we'll make some waves--or mabe some new particles..
9 posted on 09/09/2001 1:29:02 PM PDT by RLK
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To: jimkress
True. But,...

"It is becoming increasingly likely that the rules we had thought were fundamental through time and space are actually just bylaws for our bit of it," said Rees, whose new book, Our Cosmic Habitat, is published next month. "Creation is emerging as even stranger than we thought."

Is this significant?

10 posted on 09/09/2001 1:35:20 PM PDT by telos
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To: RLK
Make some snarks, er, I mean sparks.
11 posted on 09/09/2001 1:39:44 PM PDT by telos
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To: telos
Actually, my real love is physical science and engineering. I got into political and economic analysis because I was drifted. Last winter and spring I built a laser-driven interferometer that rivals anything at MIT. I've made some interesting observations. This farr I will begin a redesign and some measurements.
12 posted on 09/09/2001 1:44:50 PM PDT by RLK
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To: telos
No problem.

To make formating easier, use 'view partial source', you can get it HERE. It makes formating a breeze, just highlight, right-click om VPS, then highlight and copy. The HTML is already there for you.

13 posted on 09/09/2001 1:48:00 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: StriperSniper
Thanks, again; simple dl accomplished.
14 posted on 09/09/2001 2:02:48 PM PDT by telos
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To: RLK
"I built a laser-driven interferometer that rivals anything at MIT."

Do you think space based is necessary?

Why should we measure the Universe?

Is there a practical application to micro-optics?

15 posted on 09/09/2001 2:18:30 PM PDT by telos
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To: telos
For some reason I distrust cosmologists. Maybe because Al Gore worships the so-called cosmologist Thomas Berry. Take a look at this review of The Universe Story
16 posted on 09/09/2001 2:19:08 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: StriperSniper
Thanks for the tip, Striper! dh
17 posted on 09/09/2001 2:32:00 PM PDT by dynamitehack
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Cosmologists like everyone else are both good and bad.
I would call it the pursuit of elegance.
imo, Religion must deal with these issues and vice verse.
18 posted on 09/09/2001 2:35:21 PM PDT by telos
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To: PatrickHenry
At the conference Hawking dismissed the idea of a series of big bangs on the grounds that it extended into the infinite past and so could never have a beginning.

PH, I know that this isn't what you wanted to hear.

From Hawking's POV, it seems he feels both an temporally infinite Universe (or infinite repeating Universe) and a temporally infinite Deity suffer the same deficiency. Essentially, "it/he was always there" is just a philosophical sleight of hand to avoid the messy problem of origins.

This doesn't bode well for the turtles, either.

19 posted on 09/09/2001 2:59:56 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
"Einstein's belief that the speed of light must always be the same - 186,000 miles a second in a vacuum."

Einstein was basically stating his belief that light travels at 186,000 miles per second inside a light bulb, before crashing into the refrigerator!

20 posted on 09/09/2001 3:07:20 PM PDT by Hit & Run Poster (non-member since Quidam)
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