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After Fighting Ukraine Aid, Trump Says Biden Will ‘Give’ Ukraine to Putin
The New York Times ^ | February 15, 2024 | Michael Gold

Posted on 02/15/2024 8:37:40 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: Petrosius

In Nuland and Pyatt’s own words as they set up the new government after overthrowing the last. Good Lord man, pay attention. It was the same crew that impeached Trump for turning over the rock they were divvying up Ukraine under. Like I say, in her own words, as damning as the big guy’s “well sob, the prosecutor got fired” remarks.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/audio-of-leaked-nuland-conversation-162208835907


21 posted on 02/15/2024 9:13:03 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: funwithfood
I see. You think you can be one of the Ukie Cut and Paste Bots. Up your game Noob. Ya can't just post stupid stuff. You need to be at least humorous.
Major Fail.
22 posted on 02/15/2024 9:14:59 AM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: MotorCityBuck

I do not have to be humorous, I am the recipient of same. What is funny is watching all the pro-Putin folks going in all different directions like a herd of cats in their reasoning.


23 posted on 02/15/2024 9:19:04 AM PST by funwithfood
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To: funwithfood
Trump stands to gain more votes by supporting Ukraine then the other away around.

Trump is not about gaining votes, Trump is all in for draining the swamp. This is NOT another 4 year election.

To "support" Ukraine means to Support the DSC.

24 posted on 02/15/2024 9:21:17 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: C210N

Cant drain the swamp without getting the votes.


25 posted on 02/15/2024 9:23:00 AM PST by funwithfood
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To: Timber Rattler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MaJDK3VNE


26 posted on 02/15/2024 9:24:06 AM PST by funwithfood
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To: Petrosius

No, Russia started the war.
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I guess you forgot the Ukro Nazis started shelling the ethnic Russian Donbass back in 2014, right after they burned down the Russian Trade Union Hall in Odessa with 200 Russians in it….

You might want to go get checked for The Russian Derangement Syndrome, a disease our Democratics created just before Trump was elected.


27 posted on 02/15/2024 9:25:38 AM PST by delta7
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To: funwithfood
LOL! There is some amazing pretzels being made here....

If you have actually studied how this situation evolved over the past few decades there are no pretzels. If your views are based on the huge volume of recent propaganda, then none of it makes any sense at all. Why??? Because we have been subjected to a massive misinformation campaign the scope of which is unbelievable in a supposedly free society.

And this misinformation is not limited to Ukraine... Global Warming, Covid, Black Lives Matter, LGBTQ+ nonsense, the 2020 election, and on and on are all been forced down our throats. Anyone who buys into any of this without trying to see past the leftist agenda is very foolish.

28 posted on 02/15/2024 9:29:44 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Petrosius

“Putin and company do not accept Ukraine as an independent country”

I’m not well informed on the Ukraine conflict. Is there a basis for Russia’s non-acceptance of an independent Ukraine?


29 posted on 02/15/2024 9:34:44 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: fireman15

Why wouldn’t Trump support throwing Ukraine down the toilet? Ukraine was all in on Spygate and attempts to bring him down.

DIRECTLY INVOLVED.

Feel bad for the people. Screw their oligarchs, and unfortunately for those citizens being slaughtered to keep the money flowing, their country.


30 posted on 02/15/2024 9:34:48 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: hardspunned

Spewing that nonsense repeatedly - a very Putin propoganda line - does not make it so.


31 posted on 02/15/2024 9:35:14 AM PST by Wuli
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To: C210N

I few video clips showing what the Ukies are up against retreating from Aviidivka.

https://twitter.com/MihajlovicMike/status/1757920199997853859

The famous General Mud has now sealed the Ukies fate along the fronts….they can’t run, they can’t hide….best they just surrender, Vlad will take good care of them….just hope the Ukie prisoners don’t go on any plane rides….ie, the IL 76 full of Ukie prisoners that the Ukies recently shot down….


32 posted on 02/15/2024 9:36:23 AM PST by delta7
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“Some hard lessons are not too far down the road. Biden is an incompetent fool; everything he touches turns to poo. The entire Ukrainian foreign policy disaster scheme was designed to provoke the Russians into a situation where Western Sanctions and military aid would result in regime change.”

A line written straight out of the Kremlin.

No one provoked Putin. Getting all of Ukriane was his design all along.


33 posted on 02/15/2024 9:38:00 AM PST by Wuli
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To: funwithfood

Draining the swamp takes a plan, executed over years, with multiple phases.

2017 thru 2020 was the setup phase, including the sting operation culminating in 1/20/2021.

2021 thru Nov 2024 is the Reveal phase, where a LOT of bad stuff must be revealed under bidAn’s/Commie-La’s/etc. watch.

The votes will be there, with the swamp drained.


34 posted on 02/15/2024 9:39:06 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: Petrosius
Russia started the war


35 posted on 02/15/2024 9:44:06 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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I guess you forgot the Ukro Nazis started shelling the ethnic Russian Donbass back in 2014, right after they burned down the Russian Trade Union Hall in Odessa with 200 Russians in it….

Can't forget what never happened. I have addressed both of these issues many times in the past. Please stop repeating Russian propaganda.

36 posted on 02/15/2024 9:44:49 AM PST by Petrosius
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I’m not well informed on the Ukraine conflict. Is there a basis for Russia’s non-acceptance of an independent Ukraine?

Putin, and many other Russians, do not believe that Ukrainians are a separate people from Russians, viewing the Ukrainians as merely Russians with a strange dialect. Putin has stated this view many times in the past and repeated it in his interview with Tucker Carlson, stating that Ukrainian nationalism was in invention of the Poles. This idea is the real reason for the war. All else are just smokescreens.

37 posted on 02/15/2024 9:49:55 AM PST by Petrosius
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“I guess you forgot the Ukro Nazis started shelling the ethnic Russian Donbass back in 2014, right after they burned down the Russian Trade Union Hall in Odessa with 200 Russians in it….”

I guess you have chosen to remain ignorant of the long running Putin covert and overt efforts to subvert “ethnic Russians” in the Donbas into “separatist” forces as well being the force organizaing and arming them; along with your pretense that that does not matter.

And I guess you think Ukraine, European and U.S. intelligence were all suppose to behave as if they were ignorant of all that as well.

You have a very one-sided Putin favored view of all that has taken place in Ukraine.


38 posted on 02/15/2024 9:50:34 AM PST by Wuli
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“Ukraine was all in on Spygate and attempts to bring him down.”

1. You conflate “Ukraine” with a few bad people in Ukraine and

2. Ignore that the present government was not the government in power in 2016;

3. And ignore Trump’s support for Ukraine after he was elected.


39 posted on 02/15/2024 9:54:54 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli
A line written straight out of the Kremlin.

Lindsey Graham says ‘Russians dying’ is the ‘best money the US has ever spent’ during Zelensky meeting https://trib.al/hzVAzky

It is difficult to converse with someone who has no historical perspective... couldn't tell a Russian from a Ukrainian if their life depended on it, and does nothing but quote propaganda word for word.

40 posted on 02/15/2024 10:02:21 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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