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Schumer And McConnell Want Senators To Pass Their $106B Border Bill Without Reading It? Hell No
thefederalist ^ | Feb 2 | Mike Lee

Posted on 02/02/2024 2:13:42 PM PST by RandFan

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To: RandFan

Nancy still there???


21 posted on 02/02/2024 3:48:40 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: RandFan

The bill should be one paragraph long.

‘Defund all programs to help illegals stay in the USA. Deport all illegals ASAP.
Those who do not self-deport within 30 days can never return legally.’

That’s it.


22 posted on 02/02/2024 3:50:44 PM PST by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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To: RandFan

Make Schumer read the bill in it’s entirety on the Senate Floor without Pause.


23 posted on 02/02/2024 4:03:05 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: RandFan

Is part of the 106B for Ukraine?


24 posted on 02/02/2024 4:03:56 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: RandFan

REPLAY of PELOSI:

“YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON IT IN ORDER TO KNOW WHAT IS IN IT.”


25 posted on 02/02/2024 4:12:59 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: TornadoAlley3

Knowing this admin, yep, all 105.99 Billion of it.


26 posted on 02/02/2024 4:14:49 PM PST by Brown Bag Special (Trust but VERIFY )
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To: RandFan

A representative government is impossible if the representatives aren’t properly informed. All of these bills, in their entirety, should be made public before any votes.


27 posted on 02/02/2024 4:16:10 PM PST by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: RandFan

DC’s Corrupted Legislative Process and Why The Dem/Rep UniParty Dismisses Your Opinion of It…

November 26, 2020 | Sundance | 189 Comments

REPOSTED BY REQUEST – CTH often describes the background DC motives with the phrase: “There are Trillions at Stake.”

Here we take a look at what that really means, and how DC politics is not quite based on the ideas that frame many reference points.

With people taking notice of DC politics for the first time; and with people not as familiar with the purpose of DC politics; we end up within two different references. Perhaps it is valuable to reset the larger frames of reference and provide clarity.

Most people think when they vote for a federal politician -a House or Senate representative- they are voting for a person who will go to Washington DC and write or enact legislation. This is the old-fashioned “schoolhouse rock” perspective based on decades past. There is not a single person in congress writing legislation or laws.

In modern politics not a single member of the House of Representatives or Senator writes a law, or puts pen to paper to write out a legislative construct. This simply doesn’t happen.

Over the past several decades a system of constructing legislation has taken over Washington DC that more resembles a business operation than a legislative body. Understand this dynamic and you understand how politicians become multi-millionaires on much lesser salaries; and why ‘We The People’ are insignificant and annoying gnats to their business model.  Here’s how it works right now.

Outside groups, often called “special interest groups”, are entities that represent their interests in legislative constructs. These groups are often representing foreign governments, Wall Street multinational corporations, banks, financial groups or businesses; or smaller groups of people with a similar connection who come together and form a larger group under an umbrella of interest specific to their affiliation.

Sometimes the groups are social interest groups; activists, climate groups, environmental interests etc. The social interest groups are usually non-profit constructs who depend on the expenditures of government to sustain their cause or need.

The for-profit groups (mostly business) have a purpose in Washington DC to shape policy, legislation and laws favorable to their interests. They have fully staffed offices just like any business would – only their ‘business‘ is getting legislation for their unique interests.

These groups are filled with highly-paid lawyers who represent the interests of the entity and actually write laws and legislation briefs.

In the modern era this is actually the origination of the laws that we eventually see passed by congress. Within the walls of these buildings within Washington DC is where the ‘sausage’ is actually made.

Again, no elected official is usually part of this law origination process.

Almost all legislation created is not ‘high profile’, they are obscure changes to current laws, regulations or policies that no-one pays attention to. The passage of the general bills within legislation is not covered in media. Ninety-nine percent of legislative activity happens without anyone outside the system even paying any attention to it.

Once the corporation or representative organizational entity has written the law they want to see passed – they hand it off to the lobbyists.

The lobbyists are people who have deep contacts within the political bodies of the legislative branch, usually former House/Senate staff or former House/Senate politicians themselves.

The lobbyist takes the written brief, the legislative construct, and it’s their job to go to congress and sell it.

“Selling it” means finding politicians who will accept the brief, sponsor their bill and eventually get it to a vote and passage. The lobbyist does this by visiting the politician in their office, or, most currently familiar, by inviting the politician to an event they are hosting. The event is called a junket when it involves travel.

Often the lobbying “event” might be a weekend trip to a ski resort, or a “conference” that takes place at a resort. The actual sales pitch for the bill is usually not too long and the majority of the time is just like a mini vacation etc.

The size of the indulgence within the event, the amount of money the lobbyist is spending, is customarily related to the scale of benefit within the bill the sponsoring business entity is pushing. If the sponsoring business or interest group can gain a lot of financial benefit from the legislation they spend a lot on the indulgences.

Recap: 

Eventually, if things go according to norm, the legislation gets a vote.

Within every step of the process there are expense account lunches, dinners, trips, venue tickets and a host of other customary financial way-points to generate/leverage a successful outcome. The amount of money spent is proportional to the benefit derived from the outcome.

The important part to remember is that the origination of the entire process is EXTERNAL to congress.

Congress does not write laws or legislation, special interest groups do. Lobbyists are paid, some very well paid, to get politicians to go along with the need of the legislative group.

When you are voting for a Congressional Rep or a U.S. Senator you are not voting for a person who will write laws. Your rep only votes on legislation to approve or disapprove of constructs that are written by outside groups and sold to them through lobbyists who work for those outside groups.

While all of this is happening the same outside groups who write the laws are providing money for the campaigns of the politicians they need to pass them. This construct sets up the quid-pro-quo of influence, although much of it is fraught with plausible deniability.

This is the way legislation is created.

If your frame of reference is not established in this basic understanding you can often fall into the trap of viewing a politician, or political vote, through a false prism. The modern origin of all legislative constructs is not within congress.

“We’ll have to pass the bill to, well, find out what is in the bill” etc. ~ Nancy Pelosi 2009

“We rely upon the stupidity of the American voter” ~ Johnathan Gruber 2011, 2012.

Once you understand this process you can understand how politicians get rich.

When a House or Senate member becomes educated on the intent of the legislation, they have attended the sales pitch; and when they find out the likelihood of support for that legislation; they can then position their own (or their families) financial interests to benefit from the consequence of passage. It is a process similar to insider trading on Wall Street, except the trading is based on knowing who will benefit from a legislative passage.

The legislative construct passes from K-Street into the halls of congress through congressional committees. The law originates from the committee to the full House or Senate. Committee seats which vote on these bills are therefore more valuable to the lobbyists. Chairs of these committees are exponentially more valuable.

Now, think about this reality against the backdrop of the 2016 Presidential Election. Legislation is passed based on ideology. In the aftermath of the 2016 election the system within DC was not structurally set-up to receive a Donald Trump presidency.

If Hillary Clinton had won the election, her Oval Office desk would be filled with legislation passed by congress which she would have been signing. Heck, she’d have writer’s cramp from all of the special interest legislation, driven by special interest groups that supported her campaign, that would be flowing to her desk.

Why?

Simply because the authors of the legislation, the originating special interest and lobbying groups, were spending millions to fund her campaign. Hillary Clinton would be signing K-Street constructed special interest legislation to repay all of those donors/investors.

Congress would be fast-tracking the passage because the same interest groups also fund the members of congress.

President Donald Trump winning the election threw a monkey wrench into the entire DC system….

....In early 2017 the modern legislative machine was frozen in place.

The “America First” policies represented by candidate Donald Trump were not within the legislative constructs coming from the K-Street authors of the legislation.

There were no MAGA lobbyists waiting on Trump ideology to advance legislation based on America First objectives.

As a result of an empty feeder system, in early 2017 congress had no bills to advance because all of the myriad of bills and briefs written were not in line with President Trump policy. There was simply no entity within DC writing legislation that was in-line with President Trump’s America-First’ economic and foreign policy agenda.

Exactly the opposite was true. All of the DC legislative briefs and constructs were/are antithetical to Trump policy. There were hundreds of file boxes filled with thousands of legislative constructs that became worthless when Donald Trump won the election.

Those legislative constructs (briefs) representing tens of millions of dollars worth of time and influence were just sitting there piled up in boxes under desks and in closets amid K-Street and the congressional offices. Legislation needed to be in-line with an entire new political perspective, and there was no-one, no special interest or lobbying group, currently occupying DC office space with any interest in synergy with Trump policy.

Think about the larger ramifications within that truism. That is also why there was/is so much opposition.

No legislation provided by outside interests means no work for lobbyists who sell it. No work means no money. No money means no expense accounts. No expenses means politicians paying for their own indulgences etc.

Politicians were not happy without their indulgences, but the issue was actually bigger. No K-Street expenditures also means no personal benefit; and no opportunity to advance financial benefit from the insider trading system.

Without the ability to position personal wealth for benefit, why would a politician stay in office? The income of many long-term politicians on both Republican and Democrat sides of the aisle was completely disrupted by President Trump winning the election. That is one of the key reason why so many politicians retired immediately thereafter.

When we understand the business of DC, we understand the difference between legislation with a traditional purpose and modern legislation with a financial and political agenda.

Lastly, this is why -when signing legislation- President Trump often says “they’ve been trying to get this through for a long time” etc.

Most of the legislation passed by congress and signed by President Trump in his first term is older legislative proposals, with little indulgent value, that were shelved in years past.

Example: Criminal justice reform did not carry a financial benefit to the legislative bodies, and there was no financial interest funding the politicians to pass the bill.

If you look at most of the bills President Trump has signed, with the exception of a few economic bills, they stem from congressional construction many years ago.

you start to realize the diminished options for removing them from office…


28 posted on 02/02/2024 4:36:53 PM PST by Bratch
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Chuck Tumor and Mitch McComical are examples of the cancer that is destroying this Republic and the main reason they and the many other members of Congre$$ oppose term limits.


29 posted on 02/02/2024 4:42:17 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: eyeamok

Can they change the text after they read it aloud or publish it?


30 posted on 02/02/2024 5:22:49 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: RandFan

Both need to be tied together in cement shoes and dropped in the east river


31 posted on 02/02/2024 5:36:02 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Yes, absolutely.

Ever heard of the “conference committee”?


32 posted on 02/02/2024 5:47:13 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: RandFan

Hell no!

is the correct answer to the bill itself.
33 posted on 02/02/2024 7:37:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: Mount Athos
Then reading it aloud before voting might mean nothing more than an excuse to blame faithless politicians after the fact. I suppose that disclosing what it contained, at one moment in time, before the vote might change some minds, but you know what the media will do.

The Biden regime has proven that the act of funding more border agents would be likely to result in more illegals being waved in, or maybe destroying barriers erected by states to keep then out.

34 posted on 02/02/2024 11:37:58 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: gibsonguy
Mitch is the most hated politician in the country so of course the Republican Senators made him Senate Minority leader and it wasn’t even close

He is the poster child to limit U.S. Senate terms to four years. The treachery of the U.S. Senate can no longer be denied.
35 posted on 02/03/2024 12:00:41 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: SuperLuminal

There’s funding for 3 wars in the bill


36 posted on 02/03/2024 2:00:35 AM PST by HollyB
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To: Boomer

64 Times the Biden Administration Intentionally Undermined Border Security

https://www.speaker.gov/64-times-the-biden-administration-intentionally-undermined-border-security/


37 posted on 02/03/2024 2:03:36 AM PST by HollyB
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To: RandFan

Something is really wrong in in Washington DC... :(


38 posted on 02/03/2024 7:28:34 AM PST by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: HollyB

Biden and Mayorkas are fully guilty of treason and intentionally violating their oath of office.

They are clearly foreign agents. That goes for anyone on their staff that has helped them violate the law. They should lose their citizenship and tried for their crimes.


39 posted on 02/03/2024 7:36:17 AM PST by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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To: RandFan

This is where we need a “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”, to stand up after hours and castigate leadership and give them hell; and unfortunately Rand is shackled by having common donors with Miotch.


40 posted on 02/03/2024 7:58:33 AM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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