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Nolte: Average Monthly Mortgage Payment Explodes to $3,322 In Biden’s America
Breitbart ^ | 12/11/2023

Posted on 12/11/2023 10:23:25 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: SamAdams76

Banks get scr#wed on mortgages. If the rate goes up, customer keep their cheap mortgages. If the rates go down, customer refinace.

They do peel off a lot of the lousy mortgages, and package them as “fixed income investments” to the clowns that run pension funds. Believe me, the good fixed income vehicles are snapped up by the billionares, and the drek goes out to the retail market.


41 posted on 12/11/2023 11:42:23 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Alberta's Child
And even if you knew in advance that your home would lose 10% of its value over the next ten years, what makes you any better off renting in the same market?

Equity. I stopped renting when the rents in my area went up. I bought a little house instead, and after 7 years sold it and even through I lost money on it, I still walked away with a cool 50K.

42 posted on 12/11/2023 11:46:14 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Fido969

Good for you! I was afraid you may be one of the young casualties who simply couldn’t keep up and lost it all. There have to be many such people out there with their hearts broken.


43 posted on 12/11/2023 11:46:48 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: KobraKai

They also typically have a coherent family structure (like Americans used to have) and have multi generations living under one roof. This helps spread the mortgage cost around. Smart if you ask me.


44 posted on 12/11/2023 11:47:59 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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To: SamAdams76
Correct. A fixed-rate mortgage payment would not change over the years but for those unlucky souls with a variable-rate mortage, they are feeling some pain for sure.

Actually, if rates go up, fixed rate people are protected.

But if they go down, you can refinance a fixed rate.

So a fixed rate mortgage is essentially an adjustable rate mortgage that can only go down.

45 posted on 12/11/2023 11:50:39 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: gloryblaze

I never bought more than I could afford, and I kept making payments. Halfway through my adult life a divorce set me back to zero, but I kept plugging away.


46 posted on 12/11/2023 11:51:52 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Red Badger

Yes, I’m familiar with that tale as a parabel. But here on earth, I liked youth better than post-youth. Since it is just a daydream, I can daydream that my friends and family all got to turn the clock back, too. A daydream isn’t logical.


47 posted on 12/11/2023 12:01:08 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: gloryblaze

I would choose my 40’s....................


48 posted on 12/11/2023 12:03:11 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Rural_Michigan

You must not have much experience living next to Mexicans.


49 posted on 12/11/2023 12:04:59 PM PST by KobraKai
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To: cgbg
Some folks move around a lot so all the details matter.

Fair enough, but if you move around so frequently that fluctuations in the market value of your home have serious implications for you, there's a good chance you shouldn't even own a home at all.

I look at it this way ...

Would you ever even consider an investment that had all of these negative qualities to it?

1. You have to borrow money to buy it.
2. You have to pay recurring maintenance and insurance costs while you own it.
3. It generates no income, so it will carry a negative cash flow for the entire time you own it.
4. It is highly illiquid (i.e., you can't sell it off easily).
5. It has the worst possible diversification of any real estate investment (i.e., it's one asset in one asset class in one location).

Would you ever buy $400,000 worth of Exxon/Mobil stock or U.S. Treasury bills under these conditions?

50 posted on 12/11/2023 12:08:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Fido969
So a fixed rate mortgage is essentially an adjustable rate mortgage that can only go down.

You're 100% correct. Go to the head of the class. You have it all figured out!

51 posted on 12/11/2023 12:09:33 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Fido969

Mine also. Early 2023.


52 posted on 12/11/2023 12:11:33 PM PST by wgmalabama (Censored - some people are just crazy and can’t be reasoned with in a normal manner.)
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To: Round Earther
Furthermore, if I know the value of the house will drop 10%, I know I can find 5.25% savings and I know that over 2023, NASDAQ has increased by 23%.

What is the NASDAQ going to do over the next NINE years? And what will the short-term savings rate be over the next NINE years?

Do the math and compare the rental vs. the purchase. In almost any scenario, it makes more sense to own the home over the course of those ten years than to rent.

Suppose you put 20% down on a $400,000 home and financed the rest with a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage at 6.5%.

If the home loses 10% of its value over ten years then it is still worth $360,000 while the balance on your mortgage is less than $272,000. At that point you can continue to pay off the mortgage or even refinance it and end up with a lower mortgage payment for the next 10-30 years.

53 posted on 12/11/2023 12:17:57 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: SamAdams76

Yep. This is our ‘forever farm.’ We’re both leaving feet first! ;)

I have a friend that is building an $800K home right now. They’re in their 70’s. Yes, they can afford it, but I’m still baffled as to why you would do this to yourselves at this time of life.


54 posted on 12/11/2023 12:30:49 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: READINABLUESTATE

That’s not a mortgage payment! That’s a cell phone bill!
Congratulations!


55 posted on 12/11/2023 12:52:06 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Clemenza

I went to school in Newark 37 years ago and it was crazy then!
A mortgage payment in DC was a 1 room apartment in Irvington.
Why not sell and move?


56 posted on 12/11/2023 12:56:39 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
$650.00 a month mortgage.🥰


57 posted on 12/11/2023 12:57:18 PM PST by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

How much of that is due to people’s variable mortgage rates varying?

How many people on this forum complained for years that interest rates generally were artificially low and needed to be raised?


58 posted on 12/11/2023 1:04:23 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: jimwatx
You would expect such an increase in mortgage rates would lead to the price of homes coming down

No. The problem is structural now. Home values have gone up 35% in the last 3 years. People who have a home and a locked in low mortgage (or entirely paid off home) have almost no incentive to sell their homes. If they sell and re-buy a new home, they have to reset their interest rate AND their property tax assessment will reset as well. Better to keep the home and rent it out if you HAVE to move. This will take a decade or longer to resolve and a lot of political change which is unlikely to happen especially in my home state of CA which is facing a $65 billion deficit this year. There's just hardly anybody in a position to sell a home, and few in a position to buy the ones there are.

59 posted on 12/11/2023 1:10:23 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Alberta's Child
And even if you knew in advance that your home would lose 10% of its value over the next ten years, what makes you any better off renting in the same market?

Neighbors... and politicians.

The graffiti written on the walls tells the residents that it's only getting worse in many of these areas.

60 posted on 12/11/2023 3:27:07 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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