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Russian Navy Just Had Its Worst Day Since Ukraine Sunk Moskva Flagship
Newsweek ^ | 9/13/2023 | DAVID BRENNAN

Posted on 09/13/2023 6:03:03 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: hardspunned

Putin is groveling to Nork boy and begging for ancient Soviet artillery shells. LOL!


21 posted on 09/13/2023 6:41:53 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Ukrainians are truly incredible.
They are patient. Step by step inching towards victory.
They have a Churchillian spirit : Live Free or Die !


22 posted on 09/13/2023 6:45:05 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: CapandBall

but, it did prove Russian “air defenses” are non-existent

New Moon tomorrow night, so conditions will be optimal for dark-night attacks over the next week or so ... and Ukraine is just ramping up ...

hope Russians have stocked up on lots of candles, batteries, and water jugs this fall ...


23 posted on 09/13/2023 6:47:17 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative
Yeah and Ukraine always utters nothing but the truth, and so do we. Don't make me laugh hoser. 🀣🀣🀣

If it was all a lie then they would have omitted the damage they had sustained as well, but they didn't.

The reality is that Ukraine is suffering great losses, but it does manage to damage sitting targets in drydock, on occasion. But each time Ukraine does, Russia retaliates with even more firepower. In the tit-for-tat exchanges Ukraine always comes out, in the end, the bigger loser.

24 posted on 09/13/2023 6:48:49 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Unfortunately for the Ukraine, this is not a sea war.

Your are correct, but this hurts Russia’s operational reach at sea and impedes their ability to interdict Ukraine’s imports and more importantly grain exports.

By treaty Russia can’t move ships into and out of the Black Sea when at war, so they can’t replace losses. Ukraine is grinding down Russia’s naval capability, making shipping into and out of Odessa less hazardous. This provides real benefits to Ukraine, as commercial grain ships can pass freely through the Dardanelles and Bosporus straits.

25 posted on 09/13/2023 6:52:11 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: hardspunned

Reports say the damaged one diesel electric sub, and one ship. Russia initially claimed it was S200 modified for surface to surface. Britain claimed proudly today it was their Missiles ( storm shadow?)they provided Ukraine. I think Russia may have been trying to down play the origination (Nato, British) to de-escalate a situation. There is going to be a tenfold price to pay in Ukraine. All the Biden suckass Ukraine cheerleaders think 2 vessels out of hundreds, are going to win the war. The deep State want a hot war to send American and Nato troops real bad. They are trying their best to provoke one. The British has such a small military, they don’t have $hit to pitch in, other than British bravado. Its pretty simple to compare military forces to see the facts.


26 posted on 09/13/2023 6:52:12 PM PDT by davidb56
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To: marcusmaximus

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27 posted on 09/13/2023 6:53:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Robert DeLong

wow, you’re smoking so much of that cheap Russian hopium, laced with Krokodil - that stuff that makes you fugly and hideous - that you’re now hallucinating and thinking that Russia isn’t losing

hints -

- drydocks on fire are not a sign of winning

- a “1-month campaign” stretching into its 20th month is not winning

- having to scrounge for WWII shells from NK is not winning

just saying ...


28 posted on 09/13/2023 6:54:10 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative
US/NATO ISR flights over the Black Sea all day today gathering intelligence and targeting info. Sevastopol. Kerch. Sochi. Novorossiysk.


29 posted on 09/13/2023 6:54:48 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

No, Putin is trading nuclear weapon technology to the NORKS for access to North Korea’s limitless supply of artillery rounds. Nuclear technology that puts my grandchildren at risk and amazingly, your concern is Vinyl Pants Zelensky. The proxy your corrupt oligarchs in DC picked has already cost us $150B. Other than the women and children trafficked and billions in laundered kickbacks, DC gets nothing for our tax dollars pi$$ed away. Putin, on the other hand, hasn’t spent a dime on his proxy and he gets access to more artillery shells than the US has or can produce in the next year or two or five. That Putin, what a fool! Huzzah, for your brainiacs in the Biden admin and at the Pentagon! You’re so waterlogged with admin kool aid you don’t even look for the truth.


30 posted on 09/13/2023 6:56:03 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

Clarification: neither Russia nor Ukraine can move warships into the Black Sea. Either can move commercial oak shipping, but only Ukraine needs to at this point.


31 posted on 09/13/2023 6:56:22 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Ukraine won't make it through the end of this year."

26 posted on 9/12/2022, 3:43:30 PM by Extremely Extreme Extremist


32 posted on 09/13/2023 6:57:31 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: MNDude

Drone swarms are the future - you are correct


33 posted on 09/13/2023 6:59:47 PM PDT by 11th_VA (<><)
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To: davidb56; hardspunned

Janes is busy updating their files on the Stormshadow to “Anti-Submarine Cruise Missile”.


34 posted on 09/13/2023 7:14:26 PM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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To: USA-FRANCE

You are so full of Obama.

The war would have lasted fifteen seconds without the hundreds of billions of illegal dollars being laundered by FJB through Ukraine.


35 posted on 09/13/2023 7:16:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: canuck_conservative
Quit making me laugh with your hoser BS. 🀣🀣🀣

I offer hope for neither of them. I only deal in reality whereas you Ukraine/Zelenskyy cheerleaders live in fantasy land propelled by minor victories that you try to enlarge as greater than they actually are by propaganda, while suffering catastrophic losses.

But to me it's not only immoral, it is evil to keep dragging this slaughter fest on. We all will regret it if it does actually escalate into a wider conflict.

Are you prepared to go to battle when it does, or are you only a rah-rah boy as long as it doesn't involve you?

Well, keep on FAFO. Both world wars started as area conflicts that escalated as other nations became involved and began to chose sides to align with.

36 posted on 09/13/2023 7:19:47 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; USA-FRANCE

Only on a “conservative forum” would members of the “America First” platform lash out in drunken impotent rage after Ukraine destroys a Russian Submarine with a Cruise Missile from the United Kingdom.


37 posted on 09/13/2023 7:22:06 PM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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To: Brellium

What a weirdo.

But I bet you get that a lot.


38 posted on 09/13/2023 7:23:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What a weirdo.

I do, it usually comes from your wife when she talks about you.

39 posted on 09/13/2023 7:27:56 PM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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To: Brellium

Childish. Figures.


40 posted on 09/13/2023 7:30:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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