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Maui: Disobeying the authorities saved their lives
Hotair ^ | 08/23/2023 | David Strom

Posted on 08/23/2023 6:29:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/23/2023 6:29:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Containers of ashes should be sent to press offices.

They think it’s OK to cover up for the Democrats.


2 posted on 08/23/2023 6:32:18 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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The Democrats own this tragedy. We must not allow them to place them blame anywhere but on themselves.

It reminds me of the incompetence in Uvalde.

Deadly consequences.


3 posted on 08/23/2023 6:44:45 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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https://www.staradvertiser.com/2023/08/23/breaking-news/in-memoriam-a-list-of-victims-killed-in-maui-fires/

only two victims listed are younger than 30. All of the survivors seem united in their belief that there are many missing children. Someone, somewhere, seems to be slow walking the truth.


4 posted on 08/23/2023 6:45:38 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SeekAndFind

Incompetence or intentionally blockading the road out?


5 posted on 08/23/2023 6:53:44 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s exactly what Glen Beck used to say , I haven’t listened to him for years. “If they tell you to go this way,turn around and run the other way.”


6 posted on 08/23/2023 7:07:03 PM PDT by sopo
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To: SeekAndFind

Like those in the towers on 9/11 who ignored “authorities and lived.


7 posted on 08/23/2023 7:36:46 PM PDT by madison10
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To: SeekAndFind

They knew what they were doing. It was deliberate.


8 posted on 08/23/2023 7:42:06 PM PDT by sjmjax
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/08/23/disaster-response-conference-went-with-hawaiis-top-emergency-officials-there-maui-burned/


9 posted on 08/23/2023 7:44:31 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SeekAndFind

Kind of like 9/11 when they told the people in the second tower to stay put.


10 posted on 08/23/2023 7:57:22 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/08/maui-county-council-hears-grief-and-rage-from-fire-survivors-demanding-accountability/

generally, there seems to be much disagreement (not a good sign imho) at the town level as to whether to proceed quickly or slowly. this is not a good sign because imho the faster people get back on their feet economically and housing-wise, the more independent they will be, the more powerful they will be, the less vulnerable they will be to outside developers. squabbling and delay imho aids the outside developers. good commenter ideas include using habitat for humanity and creation of a construction company on the isthumus for modular housing to be used in lahaina and perhaps later other places in hawaii to ease the housing crisis there. one goal they should have is to regain financial independence from charities. another is to maximize claims from insurance companies, and this is where the government agencies could really help. however, if they prefer to spend extra time mourning and in extended discussions, it does not seem appropriate for any outsiders to tell them what to do or when to do it.


11 posted on 08/23/2023 8:26:10 PM PDT by SteveH
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Plan coming together to open homes for Maui displaced by September
KHON2 News
Aug. 23, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTUxdtP6VZI


12 posted on 08/23/2023 9:42:52 PM PDT by SteveH
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MPD Chief responds to questions of road closures on day of Lahaina fire

KITV
Aug. 23, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7-scIQVTiU


13 posted on 08/23/2023 9:49:09 PM PDT by SteveH
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They tried to bring another fire station to Lahaina, but the blaze arrived first

NBC
Aug. 23, 2023

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tried-bring-another-fire-station-lahaina-blaze-arrived-first-rcna101040


WMTA Annual Meeting 2023
Akakū Maui Community Media
Ja. 12, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGrJAurJ14c

[Lahaina resident Joe Pluta describes progress of establishing a second fire station in Lahaina]

[Joe Pluta lost his home in the Lahaina fire]


14 posted on 08/23/2023 11:02:17 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SeekAndFind
The disaster itself wasn’t the result of some grand conspiracy; it was the result of garden-variety incompetence.

Soft censorship.

15 posted on 08/23/2023 11:57:44 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Projected state surplus vanishing in face of planned higher spending
By Grassroot Institute of Hawaii
May 11, 2023

https://www.grassrootinstitute.org/2023/05/projected-state-surplus-vanishing-in-face-of-planned-higher-spending/


16 posted on 08/24/2023 1:45:39 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: blueunicorn6

Lessons learned:

Do not trust cops or anyone with a government badge or government id.

Arm yourself.


17 posted on 08/24/2023 1:56:40 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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https://www.tiktok.com/@momentospepisonoficial/video/7269943989585841438


18 posted on 08/24/2023 2:10:38 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


19 posted on 08/24/2023 2:13:06 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America)
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Seems in Maui land comes first people come last.


20 posted on 08/24/2023 3:46:56 AM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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