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FBI’s killing of Utah man prompts questions from neighbors. [ His namr was Craig Robertson]
The guardian ^ | Edward Helmore

Posted on 08/11/2023 9:57:11 PM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“I’ll copy BLM.

SAY HIS NAME!”

Check your Memes.
“In death a member of project mayhem has a name. His name is Robert Paulson. His name is Robert Paulson”


61 posted on 08/12/2023 6:24:16 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: metmom
They were there to provoke a gun fight so they’d have an excuse to send a message.

I think so. As soon as I heard about this, I suspected the feds were going to murder this guy. They had priors, like Ruby Ridge and Waco.

62 posted on 08/12/2023 7:07:39 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: NoLibZone

Ruby Ridge and Waco all over again.


63 posted on 08/12/2023 7:14:28 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If At First You Don't Suceed, Well So Much For Skydiving ~)
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To: NoLibZone

They always do. Remember Mount Carmel [WACO]?


64 posted on 08/12/2023 7:17:42 AM PDT by sport
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To: RandallFlagg
They’re likely monitoring this thread, too.

Absolutely! If you hear your hard drive running late at night, it is the FBI putting child porn on your computer.

65 posted on 08/12/2023 7:23:07 AM PDT by sport
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To: House Atreides

Where is the BODY-CAM VIDEO? Release it, FBI


The FBI is one of the few police agencies in the world that does not record interviews but rather relies on agents’ notes as the official record of the interview. Why would they bother with body cams? The agents involved will provide the record of what happened.

Comrade, beware that expressing doubts about the veracity of official state organs is dangerously close to sedition.


66 posted on 08/12/2023 7:40:42 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: NoLibZone

Wonder how many missing person reports have been made in the last 3 years?.


67 posted on 08/12/2023 8:03:41 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Wow,

I bet you can read a book in the total dark

/-)


68 posted on 08/12/2023 8:17:32 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

Cuz you glow brightly.

/-)


69 posted on 08/12/2023 8:18:58 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: vivenne

That is because they did.


70 posted on 08/12/2023 8:22:33 AM PDT by sport
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To: sauropod

Agree.


71 posted on 08/12/2023 8:23:09 AM PDT by sport
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To: Fido969
You can’t just be shot for saying stuff.

He was.

72 posted on 08/12/2023 8:30:27 AM PDT by sport
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To: NoLibZone
Digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle.

I don't see a threatening statement there. No threat to use it, just cleaning the gun up. Sure inference up the wazoo, but no direct threat made. If bragging and bluster is to be made illegal then the internet needs to be cleaned of a lot of folks.I suppose next threats will be seen if folks post 'I wish they were dead', or 'some need to be taken out' can now be an offense that calls for the death penalty.

73 posted on 08/12/2023 8:30:36 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: NoLibZone

Did he have a gun?


74 posted on 08/12/2023 11:04:04 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Fido969
Focusing on what he said is a red herring. You can’t just be shot for saying stuff.

What this is incident tells everybody very clearly is: "Oh yes you can just be shot for saying stuff".

It is not even the first time for this message. It is only the most recent time. "Repetition is the mother of learning" as a trainer of mine used to say.

The script is always a zero-dark-thirty raid with a dynamic entry and a call of "gun" and "shots fired". The outcome is as predictable as the sunrise.

75 posted on 08/12/2023 11:54:35 AM PDT by flamberge (Everybody is going to hate it when we all play by the same "rules".)
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To: Does so
“Could this be called Suicide by FBI?”

Yes, it could.

My assessment is: "Yes, it was". Making written assassination threats to any public official is suicidal behavior.

The “optics” certainly don’t look so good...

Of course not. With limited staff and budgets, one must pick low-risk targets that can be easily vilified to gain public support for the enforcement action. There are always plenty of crazies in a local area of any desired political alignment for the show. Just pick one who is the most intense with the least capability for action.

Robertson was an ideal target.

The secret police forces of totalitarian governments always start with the easy targets. The floridly insane persons who "threatened law enforcement" and "deserved what they got". The police branch out from there, if the authorities direct them to do so. Totalitarian governments get very twitchy about any opposition or criticism.

And that is the critical problem with this incident. Once the public accepts the message, who will they go after next?

Every poster on this forum (and hundreds of other forums) is potentially at risk, as the government tolerance for criticism gets lowered. Even posters at the "Democrat Underground" and other left-wing sites are potentially at risk.

Leftists are way too lacking in caution about threatening public officials, because they have been allowed to do so, or even sponsored by authorities to do so. But as factional disputes get resolved, yesterdays' villain becomes todays' favored leader, and the posters who threatened him yesterday get put on today's list for the next raids.

It is really hard to keep up with the current thing. And the agencies have quotas they need to meet. They are going to pick somebody to visit. Ask your Russian immigrant neighbors how this works.

"Tune in to this breaking news story. Film at eleven."

76 posted on 08/12/2023 12:48:55 PM PDT by flamberge (Everybody is going to hate it when we all play by the same "rules".)
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