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Zelensky says 'war' coming to Russia after Moscow drone attack
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Posted on 07/30/2023 8:09:43 AM PDT by janetjanet998

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To: NorseViking

As a retired Russian Field Grade Officer posting anti-America propaganda here at FR, you should recognize that Ukraine is a nation on your border that you have invaded, so it is only natural that they would fight back against government and military targets of the Russian enemy on your side of that border your tanks crossed.


41 posted on 07/30/2023 9:07:40 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

OBL was right then, I get your point.

I understand that the morality is not your thing, but will try to explain the concept.

There are no inherently good and evil people or entities, there are good and evil deed committed by said people and entities that make them good or evil.

A “good” man committing evil deeds is not a good man.

And what you and your government is doing promoting the opposite idea is not serving America well in the long run.

Very few of the America’s enemies are willing to engage in direct hostilities against this country, but seeing your apologism they can opt for doing it covertly, by dropping skyscrapers, dams, setting forrest fires and doing other things killing tens of thousands of peaceful Americans.

Why not, if America itself thinks that it is okay to do. There will be no shortage of grievances to justify it.


42 posted on 07/30/2023 9:17:33 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: janetjanet998

Regime Change


43 posted on 07/30/2023 9:17:57 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: PIF

I wonder if they have a true target other than Moscow, so long as it gets to Moscow and blows up, just to make the citizens think they are under attack, create panic if they can, etc.


44 posted on 07/30/2023 9:19:24 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: NorseViking

So now you are lying.

As a retired Russian Field Grade Officer posting anti-America propaganda here at FR, you know very well the difference between your country attacking the nation on your border and that nation fighting back in the biggest European war since WWII, versus an individual terrorist pulling off a terrorist attack anywhere, against anyone, for any reason.


45 posted on 07/30/2023 9:24:18 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Your grumbling doesn’t make any sense at this point.

Start an getting yourself educated on war terrorism is.

And no, the Ukrainian conflict is not any comparable to the Second Iraqi War in terms of civilian casualties.

The highest estimates for Ukraine are just north of 20,000 casialties. In case of Iraq, 940,000 to 1,200,000 people were killed.


46 posted on 07/30/2023 9:30:15 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Kazan

The only Neo Nazis in Ukraine are the Russians. The coup against the Ukrainian was a popular on supported by the people because it was led by a corrupt rotten sycophant. Zelensky has opposed corruption. That does not mean there is none in current Ukraine. But, if it was as bad as you say they wouldn’t be kicking Russia’s butt like they are (of course you think Russia is winning). Stop being a Russian lap dog and think for once. You are the one who is supporting evil.

Russia has never lived up to agreements. They do not even live up to migratory bird treaties so don’t tell me that any Minsk accords were legitimate. You need to think for once instead of listening to Russian filth and drivel. Why don’t you just move to Russia.


47 posted on 07/30/2023 9:32:50 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: NorseViking
Terrorist is a guy who engages in terror.

Yeah, like this guy.


48 posted on 07/30/2023 9:33:04 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

I know that I won’t the the reasonable explanation to it from the guy of your intellectual capacity.


49 posted on 07/30/2023 9:34:31 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: ansel12; NorseViking
As a retired Russian Field Grade Officer

Who has the higher rank, NorseViking, as a Russian Field Grade Officer (according to you) or you as a NATO warrior under Reagan (according to your tagline)?

50 posted on 07/30/2023 9:36:07 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: NorseViking

Why is the Russian government in Moscow seeing Ukrainian drones?

As a retired Field Grade Russian officer you should know that when you invade the country on your border, they will fight back, at least if that country is Ukraine.


51 posted on 07/30/2023 9:37:51 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: JonPreston

That didn’t make sense, do you know anything about the military or ranks?


52 posted on 07/30/2023 9:45:19 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: apillar

Bingo—Mr. Z must get Russia to use a Nuke—a small one! If he can’t. Russia will wear him down and win over time. Benefits of the Nuke attack are... 1) China will condemn Putin and stop all support—maybe join with west to dismember Russia. 2) Horrified NATO will rush aid, Money, medical supplies, and troops instantly to Ukraine. 3) Russian-occupied Ukraine will be flattened if not nuked. 4) All of the west will attack at once, crossing the borders in the “Crush Putin” attack to seize Moscow and free the Russian people from tyrant Putin. 5) Total victory for Ukraine and world status for Mr. Zelenskyy.


53 posted on 07/30/2023 9:45:31 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: ansel12

Why did 9/11 happen? Would it have happened if not for the US intervention in the Middle East?
Yes or not?
Was OBL wrong? If yes, why?
Thank you in advance if you can answer it in any reasonable way.
If not, spare me from your continued idiocy.

As a side note, the quote from the Ukrainian officials that is in the exchange is the direct admittance that the attack was a terrorist act. It is a crime regardless the motives of the perpetrator. I don’t remember such admittance from OBL. He believed that he acted in good faith.

If all of the above is hard to grasp for you, learn what terrorism is. It is not right to discuss stuff you have no idea about.


54 posted on 07/30/2023 9:45:52 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: ansel12
Well, let me try again.

You claim to be a NATO warrior under Reagan

Is this a title you gave yourself, or is it something more formal?

56 posted on 07/30/2023 9:48:04 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

LOL, you don’t know about the American military and NATO.


57 posted on 07/30/2023 9:49:42 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Timber Rattler
Beautiful picture of Putin, by the way.

Doesn't look like a man bedridden from cancer as the FR war whores continuously scream.

58 posted on 07/30/2023 9:50:18 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: USA-FRANCE

It is hard to explain complex stuff to retards, but I will try anyway.

The below quote explains the motive of the strike that is the very definition of terrorism:

“A spokesman for Ukraine’s Air Force said the latest drone attacks on Moscow were aimed at impacting Russians who, since the Kremlin invaded Ukraine in February 2022, felt the war was distant. “

Call me when Putin is going to say something like this. Not even Osama bin Laden was as straightforward.


59 posted on 07/30/2023 9:52:06 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

According to the topic of this thread, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned on Sunday that “war” was coming to Russia after three Ukrainian drones were downed over Moscow.

As a retired Senior Russian officer, how did you not expect the war to also reach your side of the border?


60 posted on 07/30/2023 9:52:31 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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