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Greg Gutfeld smeared as 'downplaying' the Holocaust by dishonest journalists
Twitchy.com ^ | 7/25/2023 | FuzzyChimp

Posted on 07/25/2023 6:19:06 AM PDT by NetAddicted

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To: Eleutheria5

The French get a bad rap for The Holocaust, and true, some of it’s deserved.

But what surprised me was when I read that if you were a French Citizen of Jewish origin, you had a 75% chance of surviving the war. So when it came to French citizens, Vichy actually did a decent job of protecting them.

But most of the Jews in France at the time were considered aliens, many fleeing from Nazi Germany and other occupied areas of Europe, and the French were more than happy to let the Nazis take them off of their hands.


41 posted on 07/25/2023 9:14:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Did you not actually READ what he said, and not what other people said he said?

He was paraphrasing Viktor Frankl, a Holocaust survivor “Jews survived by being useful.” Frankl was a doctor.

So you disagree with a Holocaust survivor about what he experienced.

Does that make you a ‘Holocaust Denier?”


42 posted on 07/25/2023 9:16:05 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: MD Expat in PA

“Most lived with that horror for the rest of their lives, having what we would call PSDT or survivor’s guilt”

Is that somehow related to PTSD, or DDT?


43 posted on 07/25/2023 9:22:46 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: dfwgator

I guess he should have said “A few survived by being useful”

Being useful didn’t help you in Treblinka.
They executed the Sonderkommando’s every 3 months.
Now in Treblinka, only 67 survived out of 1M.
They survived by escaping during an uprising in Aug, ‘43.

Maybe Greg will finally realize that Faux News wants him out.


44 posted on 07/25/2023 9:41:13 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras

My hunch is Greg was thinking of the movie “Escape From Sobibor” where they would ask if Jews had certain skills and would allow them to live.


45 posted on 07/25/2023 9:43:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NetAddicted

I really hate using Tweets as an “article”.

Formatting goes to hell and we can no longer tell what is the opinion piece and what are the quotations from Twitter.

Seems this ended up just being quotes by liberals, with no real commentary on it.


46 posted on 07/25/2023 10:17:39 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (.Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: SJackson

Greg, a very smart commentator IMO, was not really commenting about the Holocaust to Jessica. He was commenting about the comment in the Florida curriculum regarding the fact that some slaves developed skills under the horror of slavery. This is not an excuse for slavery but something noteworthy to be included in teaching about slavery. Jessica was correctly demonstrating that one can make claims about any terrible event and it can be taken as demeaning the horror of the event if one takes it that way.

The Five is a format of 4 against one (Jessica) so they typically don’t want any point she makes to go un countered. Greg was simply making a poor retort.

The same can be said for the comment about slaves learning skills. Why is it that slaves are never taught about skills that could be used to resist their condition of bondage?


47 posted on 07/25/2023 10:25:56 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: hinckley buzzard

PTSD


48 posted on 07/25/2023 12:13:03 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: Eleutheria5

PTSD


49 posted on 07/25/2023 12:14:28 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

Actually there is a lot of half-truth omissions about American slavery (not all slavery).

In truth the Holocaust comparison doesn’t seem to really fly because NAZIs really did want to ultimately exterminate Jews. They just wanted to use them all they could before that. And that was basically short-term.

Slaves here were not kept with the idea of killing them. So that urgency didn’t exist, and in fact the idea of being “useful” was probably more sensible for slaves than the Jews. Why? Because, they could get paid and they could buy their own freedom. (Yes, there is another thing they don’t tell you about American slavery, albeit that varied from time and place). They could be freed. And it could be a long-term issue before they might get freed. That is actually one up on Jews in the Holocaust.


50 posted on 07/25/2023 12:43:38 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (.Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: chaosagent; MD Expat in PA

Thank you for your educated, literate reply.


51 posted on 07/25/2023 7:28:14 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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