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Biden forgives $39 BILLION in student debt for 804,000 Americans: White House goes around Supreme Court ruling to give handout to borrowers who have been paying for 20 years
The Daily Mail ^ | 14 Jul 2023 | Wills Robinson

Posted on 07/14/2023 11:34:32 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: TornadoAlley3
Congress is to blame for everything Biden is doing.

In reality, with the Dems in control of the Seante, Uncle Joe can do whatever he wants.

41 posted on 07/14/2023 12:15:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Slugs that were going to vote for him anyway.


42 posted on 07/14/2023 12:16:45 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Openurmind

When the USSC declined to involve itself in case requests involving election fraud and FISA court fraud, they punched their own time clock exiting the job.


43 posted on 07/14/2023 12:17:52 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t think he’s the Man of Lawlessness from 2 Thessalonians. But he is a man of lawlessness. His entire career has been lawlessness.


44 posted on 07/14/2023 12:19:45 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: blackdog

“When the USSC declined to involve itself in case requests involving election fraud and FISA court fraud, they punched their own time clock exiting the job.”

True... That didn’t help any at all.


45 posted on 07/14/2023 12:21:25 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: MinorityRepublican

This program was established long before Biden. These people have public service or non profit jobs and have been paying in for over 20 years, according to statute. Biden didn’t really do anything, it was scheduled anyway.


46 posted on 07/14/2023 12:24:55 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Openurmind

In a Robertsonian point of view, our irreparably corrupt government is a tax, we deserve. In a way, he’s correct.


47 posted on 07/14/2023 12:25:05 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

More here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4167825/posts

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48 posted on 07/14/2023 12:30:41 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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To: MinorityRepublican
They do no oversight until after the fact. They decide what the EPA, DOE etc are allowed to do. But it's hard. So term after term they both use whatever results of their regulation as a weapon against the other party.

Shame on EPA for fill in the blank. It's their fault. Elect us. If you're lucky it will make it to SCOTUS and a favorable ruling. We sure aren't going to work on changing any laws, we have your tax dollars to launder and insults to sling so voters will remain enraged at each other instead of us.

49 posted on 07/14/2023 12:34:35 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: MinorityRepublican

How about credit card debt? Lots of people are burdened with that debt. Will Biden give them relief?

Car loans too!


50 posted on 07/14/2023 12:37:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I thought Congress controlled the purse strings. How can Pedo Joe suddenly spend this money without regard to the budget. Time for some answers from the Congress Critters.


51 posted on 07/14/2023 12:39:31 PM PDT by wbslws
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To: MinorityRepublican

How do you pay on a loan for 20-30 years and still not have it paid off?
How much did you borrow? Were your payments like an onerous $5.00 per month?


52 posted on 07/14/2023 12:40:33 PM PDT by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: Manic_Episode

Does this mean the lenders of the loans have to take the loss?


53 posted on 07/14/2023 12:42:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Buyin’ those votes on debt at a time.


54 posted on 07/14/2023 12:43:40 PM PDT by Jaded (I'll take "How Stupid Are People" for $1000, Alex. Look! It's a Daily Double.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Grifterpalooza!

You Boomers who scrimped, saved and paid for everything — you’re chumps!


55 posted on 07/14/2023 12:47:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
Any word if we are gonna get someone challenging this to SCOTUS?

I would think that the banks owning the loans would be filing suits.

OR

Can SCOTUS on it’s own immediately react to this without someone bringing up a case?

Not as such. A suit needs to be filed and will have to move through the lower courts. Unless I'm wrong.

56 posted on 07/14/2023 12:47:39 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should be less concerned with who we might offend and more concerned with who we inspire.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Now everyone can afford a Ferrari or Lamborghini, just a low down payment, and then get the rest of the payments forgiven by Biden. BTW how does this manage to keep their credit scores up? Its the death knell of what was the USA.


57 posted on 07/14/2023 12:55:48 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (In politicians we get what we deserve, usually the best that money can buy, guaranteed.)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
The answer to your second question is no. We'll see about your first question. But I think there might be several ways to attack this via a court case. A 14th amendment case might be made based on a favor granted only to loan holders. Other grounds may be made as well, including the one that the USSC just said that it was flatly unconstitutional.

I think that there is something about student loans that makes them non-dischargeable in bankruptcy. You might be able to say that if the government can just discharge this much student debt then the equal treatment portion of the 14th Amendment might then require that the rest be dischargeable in bankruptcy. (More knowledgeable freepers should weigh on this approach.)

But another approach might be to look at the tax implications of the loan forgiveness. In the past the IRS has treated loan forgiveness as income and taxed it as such. Imagine that you just got $20,000 of your loan forgiven. That year you are at a 22% marginal tax rate for the feds and an 8% marginal tax rate for the state. So you owe $6,000 taxes on that loan forgiveness THAT YEAR. Most people don't plan for such a tax event so they will have to scrape up an unplanned $6K out of their pocket THAT YEAR.

Now for the publicity. Put out a good news story about how the government receipts will be increased by the taxes levied on the loan forgiveness program and this will be used to finance important social programs like improving the quality of monitoring llama feed manufacturing in Peru. It is time to get creative about dealing with this lawlessness.

58 posted on 07/14/2023 12:56:10 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
The answer to your second question is no. We'll see about your first question. But I think there might be several ways to attack this via a court case. A 14th amendment case might be made based on a favor granted only to loan holders. Other grounds may be made as well, including the one that the USSC just said that it was flatly unconstitutional.

I think that there is something about student loans that makes them non-dischargeable in bankruptcy. You might be able to say that if the government can just discharge this much student debt then the equal treatment portion of the 14th Amendment might then require that the rest be dischargeable in bankruptcy. (More knowledgeable freepers should weigh on this approach.)

But another approach might be to look at the tax implications of the loan forgiveness. In the past the IRS has treated loan forgiveness as income and taxed it as such. Imagine that you just got $20,000 of your loan forgiven. That year you are at a 22% marginal tax rate for the feds and an 8% marginal tax rate for the state. So you owe $6,000 taxes on that loan forgiveness THAT YEAR. Most people don't plan for such a tax event so they will have to scrape up an unplanned $6K out of their pocket THAT YEAR.

Now for the publicity. Put out a good news story about how the government receipts will be increased by the taxes levied on the loan forgiveness program and this will be used to finance important social programs like improving the quality of monitoring llama feed manufacturing in Peru. It is time to get creative about dealing with this lawlessness.

59 posted on 07/14/2023 12:56:10 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Elsie

Indeed, us the taxpayer. Those were govt loans and Joe the corrupt turnip fraud is very very generous with other peoples money which he deems unlimited and free, almost as if they are looting the treasury right at the end of its existence or something with zero thought of ever balancing the books.


60 posted on 07/14/2023 1:22:23 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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