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They lied about Afghanistan. They lied about Iraq. Now they're lying about Ukraine
Salon via Yahoo ^ | July 8th, 2023 | Chris Hedges

Posted on 07/08/2023 2:15:07 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: BobL

“Oh, they know it’s all lies.”

Did they lie about Covid, our southern border, the Biden’s crimes, election fraud, Jan 6th, Russian collusion, or global warming.

A shorter list would be things they don’t lie about.


21 posted on 07/08/2023 2:54:29 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Gene Eric
Lindsey Graham is the main warfare whore in Washington because he’s owned by Boeing Corp. — one of the biggest defense contractors in the U.S. Boeing employs thousands of people in South Carolina.

That’s just one example.

22 posted on 07/08/2023 2:56:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Mariner
He says it right there:'It enriches the weapons manufacturers,'
23 posted on 07/08/2023 2:57:46 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Alberta's Child

Appreciated and definitely agree with the likes of Graham. His recent remarks on the matter are categorically diabolic.


24 posted on 07/08/2023 3:05:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mariner
Weren’t the sanctions supposed to plunge the ruble into a death spiral?

The ruble improved to 55 to the dollar just after the Ukraine invasion began.

As of today, the ruble is 91 to the dollar. A ruble is now worth a skosh more than 1 US penny. 1.09 pennies, to be exact.
25 posted on 07/08/2023 3:15:06 PM PDT by Colinsky
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To: Mariner

They lied . . .

They lied . . .

They will lie about not stealing 2024 as they did about 2020 and 2022.


26 posted on 07/08/2023 3:17:22 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Fido969

“they blame Mitch McConnell”

He deserves all the blame they can heap upon him.

Along with many others of both parties.


27 posted on 07/08/2023 3:34:18 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

They lied about 11/23/63 and JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, cancer caused by above ground Nuclear tests, TWA 800, Solindra, Ruby Ridge, Las Vegas shooting, Covid, Covid vacine, 2020 election, 2016 election, etc.


28 posted on 07/08/2023 4:03:08 PM PDT by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence)
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To: Mariner

I’m ready to toss in the towel—Ukraine will be a Forever war—soon our boys will be there—fighting for at least twenty—thirty years. It will never end—like Korea—just fighting forever. Your children, grand children, great grand children will all be sent to bleed for Ukraine “Freedom” Each year 400 Billion will be sent for the “Fight” to save Freedom in Eastern Europe. Putin will die—the war will go one, Biden will die, the war will drag on. In the end more than all lost in the Civil War will be Lost—Face it—It will never end.


29 posted on 07/08/2023 4:22:24 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Mariner

WAr always enriches the arms manufacturers.


30 posted on 07/08/2023 4:30:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

As long as the Politicians make money from it. It won’t end, that is for damn sure. As long as the Worshipers of Biden and Soros have people to send to die for them so that they can still make money, the war will continue well past the day hell freezes over. Or Biden tells the truth.


31 posted on 07/08/2023 4:32:59 PM PDT by sport
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To: Mariner

Your exception was how I took the comment. The US involvement serves those orchestrating the involvement, not US sovereign interests.


32 posted on 07/08/2023 4:35:03 PM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: Mariner

Who is ‘they’


33 posted on 07/08/2023 5:11:51 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yah, next someone will post an article from the NYT and expect the NPC’s to swallow that.


34 posted on 07/08/2023 6:19:52 PM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Mariner

How the hell is this appearing in SALON, for pete’s sake?? Covid and Ukraine has truly mixed up political allegiances big time.


35 posted on 07/08/2023 10:23:19 PM PDT by montag813
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; SpeedyInTexas; PIF
Pinging the pro-Ukraine, pro-War propaganda leaders here in FR.

Guys: Not a lot of support for your beloved forever-war among the rank and file freepers. Feel free to explain how everyone else is wrong and you are right, if you can

36 posted on 07/09/2023 4:42:49 AM PDT by Vlad0
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To: Mariner

Oy


37 posted on 07/09/2023 9:13:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Mariner

RE: Iraq, it isn’t clear what “lie” they’re talking about, because the story that Iraq had no NBC weapons was itself A LIE.

It’s also A LIE to claim Bush claimed he was invading because Saddam had NBC weapons. He invaded because Saddam thwarted all international efforts TO CONFIRM his claim that he did not. Saddam might have been motivated to prevent it being discovered that he categorically DID NOT have an active nuclear, chemical or biological weapons program because the myth that he did was a cornerstone of his military deterrence. However, to the outside world, those signs and symptoms would have been identical to a campaign to conceal the fact that he in fact DID HAVE an active NBC program.

The real cause was Saddam’s insistence on continuing to play the same game of brinkmansip that had been keeping him in power for decades. Only this time, it was he who blinked first.


38 posted on 07/10/2023 12:05:25 AM PDT by threefinger
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UTSW genetic study confirms sarin nerve gas as cause of Gulf War illness

... Dr. Haley’s research group not only discovered that veterans with exposure to sarin were more likely to develop GWI, but also found that the risk was modulated by a gene that normally allows some people’s bodies to better break down the nerve gas. Gulf War veterans with a weak variant of the gene who were exposed to sarin were more likely to develop symptoms of GWI than other exposed veterans who had the strong form of the gene.

“Quite simply, our findings prove that Gulf War illness was caused by sarin, which was released when we bombed Iraqi chemical weapons storage and production facilities,” said Dr. Haley, a medical epidemiologist who has been investigating GWI for 28 years. “There are still more than 100,000 Gulf War veterans who are not getting help for this illness and our hope is that these findings will accelerate the search for better treatment.”...

https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/articles/year-2022/sarin-nerve-gas-gulf-war-illness.html


If Saddam didn't have any nerve agent, how did a nerve agent (sarin) manage to cause Gulf War syndrome?

39 posted on 07/10/2023 12:16:42 AM PDT by threefinger
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Each year 400 Billion

Why would they ask for "only" 400B?

40 posted on 07/10/2023 11:03:25 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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