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'Really Dire': California Pot Tax Revenue Falls for 7th Straight Quarter
KSBW ^ | Jun 13, 2023 | Lester Black

Posted on 06/13/2023 1:21:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Jewbacca

If you can grow tomatoes....


61 posted on 06/13/2023 3:09:04 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Jewbacca

It could be put in anyone’s backyard garden. Tomato plants are a good hiding place. They look a lot alike and just grow plenty of tomatoes. 2 for 1, feed your munchies a healthy snack.


62 posted on 06/13/2023 3:12:58 PM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: nickcarraway

Wonder why the article does not say anything about the “Cultivation Tax” being done away with in CA? The industry is not dying.


63 posted on 06/13/2023 3:14:54 PM PDT by jpp113
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To: nickcarraway

No. He’s got 100+ acres of his own land.


64 posted on 06/13/2023 3:18:16 PM PDT by Skid289 (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. )
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To: gundog

I never looked into how much the states get.
Was actually shocked to find out:

(Also, the IRS taxes all income earnings under US taxes, even though the marijuana they tax is all illegal under federal laws.)

States have collectively generated more than $15 billion in adult-use marijuana tax revenue from 2014 to 2022, a new report published on Monday by the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) found.

But while legal states saw about $3.8 billion in cannabis tax dollars in 2022 alone, it represented the first time that revenue was lower than the prior year, which experts attribute to a “multitude of factors,” including COVID-related policies and trends.

Still, the fact that 2022 brought in almost $100 million less in tax revenue compared to 2021 is notable given that more states like New Jersey and New Mexico launched their recreational markets last year, which would presumably lend to higher tax yields.

States where cannabis legalization is newer did see higher levels of tax revenue, but six states with the most established markets have seen declines offsetting those gains.

Here are the 2022 state-by-state totals:

Alaska: $28,649,408
Arizona: $223,863,799
California: $1,074,560,287
Colorado: $305,034,034
Illinois: $562,119,019
Maine: $25,329,534
Massachusetts: $250,710,415
Michigan: $326,049,074
Montana: $41,989,466
Nevada: $196,952,338
New Jersey: $20,139,655
New Mexico: $36,684,235
Rhode Island: $579,439
Oregon: $150,316,424
Washington: $529,443,420
Vermont: $2,363,000


65 posted on 06/13/2023 3:19:54 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: frank ballenger

There’s definitely an arc that is traveled, after legalization. I’ve lived in Oregon most of my life. The process of decriminalization/legalization has been decades in the making, and was pretty gradual. Still, lots of open weed smoking right after legalization....seniors, rednecks...didn’t matter. Covid exacerbated things, with the homeless occupying a local park. Of late, I haven’t seen much open smoking in my area.


66 posted on 06/13/2023 3:33:01 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Hambone 1934

That, as well as unlimited illegals to create and work on illegal growing operations.


67 posted on 06/13/2023 3:43:55 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: neefer

That’s roughly the same price for legal/recreational in AZ.


68 posted on 06/13/2023 3:46:10 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: nickcarraway

“... defend...”

No, defund. An example is in L.A., the closest major city next to the border, it was cut around $150 million.

https://unitedpolicefund.org/lapd-officially-defunded-by-150-million-criminals-are-the-winner/#:~:text=LOS%20ANGELES%2C%20CA%20%E2%80%93%20Months%20after,more%20specifically%20within%20the%20department.

wy69


69 posted on 06/13/2023 4:03:36 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: jimwatx

“Nobody grows it outside unless they have a bunch of land where it’s easily hidden.”

There is a lot of land tod o this and it is used along with hiding it in other people’s crops of regular growth.

In California there is an area known as the Emerald Triangle due to its rich, beautiful, and rugged terrain, Northwestern California tops the list as a best place to grow weed. Likewise, this region boasts a temperate Mediterranean climate and steep mountains (similar to the Burgundy region of France, where fine wines are grown). State officials estimate that the Triangle annually produces 1.7 million pounds of cannabis. Overall, this area is a leader in outdoor farming.

https://asanarecovery.com/five-areas-in-the-united-states-that-are-ideal-for-growing-weed/

There may be enough indoors farmers to cover this, but that’s a lot of outdoor grass being produced. And as per the article, it’s one of the top 5 locations in the U.S.

wy69


70 posted on 06/13/2023 4:11:02 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: nickcarraway
Here's a clue, Gavin. If you don't close off the black market for cannabis the legal vendors will never be able to lower their price enough to meet street prices.

But that was the plan all along, right.
Even someone without a business degree can see what is being done in that market.
You're allowing foreign competitors to undercut American businesses and preventing the banking industry from servicing their business.

71 posted on 06/13/2023 5:20:09 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SPDSHDW

I’ve heard recently that here in TN it is often illegally distributed via fast food drive-thrus. That’s easy to imagine.


72 posted on 06/13/2023 5:24:16 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: philman_36

When marijuana was legalized in CA, the medical marijuana people said they could no longer enforce it.


73 posted on 06/13/2023 5:25:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: philman_36

Just for the record, you want the U.S. banking industry to work for the cartels, and you think that will be better for U.S. citizens?


74 posted on 06/13/2023 5:26:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It was never about tax revenue. It was about turning California into a lawless hell hole.


75 posted on 06/13/2023 5:29:04 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: nickcarraway

Hi.

I really don’t know anything, but if the street price is lower than the government’s and the quality is better then the state of CA has a marketing problem.

8^)

5.56mm


76 posted on 06/13/2023 5:29:09 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: nickcarraway
Just for the record, you want the U.S. banking industry to work for the cartels, and you think that will be better for U.S. citizens?

Just for the record, you believe the U.S. banking industry isn't working with the cartels, and you think U.S. citizens are better with that?

77 posted on 06/13/2023 5:40:10 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: M Kehoe

Not that hard to figure out, is it.


78 posted on 06/13/2023 5:40:53 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: nickcarraway
When marijuana was legalized in CA, the medical marijuana people said they could no longer enforce it.

People, they, it. You've said nothing. Empty words.

79 posted on 06/13/2023 5:44:46 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
I mistyped : When marijuana was legalized in CA, the medical marijuana customers said they could no longer afford it.
80 posted on 06/13/2023 5:46:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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