Posted on 05/08/2023 5:44:53 AM PDT by george76
It’s always been a good question.
Britian and France declared war on Germany for invading Poland but not on the USSR for doing the exact same thing.
And the Chinese still live under Communist slavery.
Looking back at history it’s now clear how critically important Russia was to defeating Nazi Germany.
Hear, hear, well spoken, Bruce!
No question about it. The Russians paid a much dearer price than we did, in terms of lives lost.
And the Chinese still live under Communist slavery.
Maybe so, but what did they do with that "victory?" They subjugated Eastern Europe and the world to nearly five decades of the same terror Europe suffered for one under the Nazis. Nice tradeoff, wouldn't you say? New boss same as the old boss.
Churchill’s “naughty document” on which he and Joseph Stalin carved up eastern Europe at the end of the Second World War was evil..
I’m old enough to remember when V-E Day and V-J Day were identified on calendars. Today, I wonder how many people would know the answer if you asked them: What is V-E Day?”
What's clear, looking back at history, is that Hitler would have taken Moscow before winter came if Churchill hadn't coordinated (with the US, who hadn't yet entered the war) a massive campaign to resupply Stalin because his army and air forces had been decimated by the Germans in the first weeks of Barbarossa.
American war materiel was so vital to the Soviets that the joke was, "The Red Army rides into battle in Studebaker duece-and-a-halves." They would have defended Stalingrad with nothing but spears and slingshots if not for the steady stream of arctic convoys Churchill was sending to Arkhangelsk and Murmansk.
“No question about it. The Russians paid a much dearer price than we did, in terms of lives lost.”
Including Russian soldiers who were forced into battle with the rifles of other Russians aimed at their backs, in case they didn’t advance into the German bullets.
Very heroic.
Many East Germans were members of Stasi, which has been described as “worse than the Gestapo” by Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal....
Good point... History often fails to remember, or even mention that the invasion of Poland was a joint aggression on behalf of Hitler and Stalin. In real time it was reported as thus... But after the war the ‘allies’ (which at this point included Stalin) decided to re-write that narrative.
Much in the same way that the term ‘National Socialist’ was ignored when referring to Hitler and his atrocities... Socialist don’t like being associated with Hitler, who was essentially a socialist at heart. Like most socialist he believed that government needed to control of the population, he believed in the nationalization of industry, in gun control, in abortion and eugenics... All concepts espoused by socialist.
Judgment at Nuremberg is an awesome film that every school child should watch... During the entire movie they refer to Nazi’s for what they original were... National Socialist.
Well, they helped start it all, they continued to materially supply the nazis right up until 1941, and Stalin had murdered millions before Hitler even got warmed up; so, eff ‘em.
Seems folks tend to forget, or willfully ignore, the fact that Nazis and Communists essentially reside on the same side of the ideological coin. Especially lately.
Not Russia, the USSR. Russia would have been defeated easily. It was the Soviet troops from the East that came West that stopped Germany. That gave the Soviets unlimited manpower. Combine that with the never ending stupidity of invading the Russian (yes, Russia this time) steppes in winter and you always lose.
The USSR deserved massive losses for siding with the Nazis at first. They basically whored themselves, but what else can you expect from commie trash? In this period their cells in the WEst were busily telling all of their commie trash supporters that Hitler was a nice guy.
Once they called for the material help from the west (which is all that saved them) they deserved sympathy. And, for that, commemoration. What they lost before that time — they deserved it.
Biden and the Democrats are not all that far from this.
So much so that, in the Soviet occupation zone of Germany, Buchenwald concentration camp stayed open for business for another 5 years. Different management, different inmates, different name ("NKVD Special Camp No. 2") ... but still tyranny.
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