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What the heck is China doing in Utah? And Why is the Mormon Church Involved in this?
Hotair ^ | 03/27/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/27/2023 8:59:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Elsie
The United States Immigration Act of 1891 authorized the implementation of inspection stations at ports of entry along the Mexican and Canadian borders.
 
The United States Immigration Act of 1917 required the passing of a literacy test and a head tax by Mexicans wanting to enter the United States legally; however, during World War I, when labor shortages grew, the provisions were temporarily suspended.
 
The United States Immigration Act of 1924 established the United States Border Patrol.[20]

41 posted on 03/28/2023 7:21:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Well ... it was just a wild guess! :)


42 posted on 03/28/2023 7:40:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yes. See post 32 and 37.


43 posted on 03/28/2023 7:45:24 PM PDT by Norski
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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44 posted on 03/28/2023 7:53:17 PM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=40%>)
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To: fella

Yes


45 posted on 03/28/2023 7:57:40 PM PDT by combat_boots ( )
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To: SeekAndFind; bitt; little jeremiah

How the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ties into the picture is less clear

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I’ll take a couple shots at that:
<> ancestry.com - didn’t chinese interest buy out this genealogy & DNA operation?
<> morman church genealogy library?

Data is today’s gold???


46 posted on 03/28/2023 8:11:20 PM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: TigersEye

Shudda been more ‘scientific’!

;^)

SWAG


47 posted on 03/28/2023 8:30:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

ROTFL

Research is ongoing. Still a hypothesis. Data not yet correlated.


48 posted on 03/28/2023 8:44:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: Elsie

Planet of Endor in Star Wars movies seems based upon witch of Endor in Old Testament. “The Force” is witchcraft.

1 Samuel 28:7 ¶ Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.

“Endora” on “Bewitched”. Samantha’s mother.


49 posted on 03/28/2023 9:13:58 PM PDT by Norski
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To: TigersEye; All
Exactly two of the most corrupt politicians to ever come down the road Mitt and Dingy Harry should tell you what goes down.

Romney is an arch criminal worth billions. He and his mormon gangs engage in every type of smuggling their is from drugs to kids. Nothing is going too far for them. It's not well known but that's who they are:

a huge criminal organization.

https://www.newshawknetwork.com/investigative-reports/drain-the-swamp-deep-state-criminal-mitt-romney/

Below is a clip from the link:

Mitt Romney has always lived under a cloud of corruption and crime in business and politics. His crimes rivals those of the Bush and Clinton oligarchies. In fact, the Bush crime family have basically adopted unfit Mitt into their global cartel and he fits right into their befuddled complex of corrupt bankers, rogue CIA and the slimy underbelly of politics.

Corrupt banker Prescott Bush, the successor patriarch in a long line of the criminal Bush oligarchs dating back to Samuel Bush, the WWI arms dealer. Prescott is the father of George HW Bush and Jonathan Bush, the corrupt Director of Riggs Bank. Mitt Romney worked very closely with GHWB, the man who is said to head the American Fourth Reich and patriarch of the Bush Oligarchy along with his brother Jon Bush, the man they call Hitler's banker.

Unfit Mitt was the third member of the team that fleeced the former Soviet Union through Riggs-Valmet Bank and then laundered the money through Romney at Bain Capital. Unfit Mitt was able to accumulate his massive wealth, estimated to be over $250 Million, is a direct result of his association with the Bush oligarchy.

Jonathan and GHWB are deep state operatives grooming Mitt for the presidency of the United States and cleared his path so the CIA could maintain control over the Oval Office from the republican side of the ledger. Was Mitt also being groomed to be the next Bush patriarch considering Jeb and George W are woefully lacking in leadership and management?

There is debate on this point with some saying a deal was struck with Trump to bring down the Clinton oligarchy if he would nominate Bushites to SCOTUS (Brett Kavanaugh) and Attorney General (Bill Barr).

Several articles surfaced in Mitt's political run from the Never Romney folks that highlighted his contradictory public statements and included in the reference section below. Now that GHWB has been put to death, competing oligarchs are at war to fill the void and are leaking criminal information about on each other.

With Trump in the Oval Office as a ‘rogue’ player from the CIA perspective, such criminality may not remain unpunished though as mentioned earlier the Bush cartel may have made a deal with Trump. We'll just have to see what plays out.

Trump did expose the Clinton criminal enterprise but can the Bush oligarchy trust him? This may be a reason why Romney ran for Senate in the Mormon stronghold of Utah. He will vehemently oppose Trump and fill the never Trump gap in the Senate left by the departure of McCain and Flake if Trump does not hold up his end of the agreement? Speculation, but what is not is the deep state is in panic mode to keep their crimes and corruption hidden from the prying eyes and ears of President Trump. Trump is a law and order man.

President Trump may or may not have an agreement with the Bushes. Regardless, there are many Patriots who have not. There is a laundry list of crimes and corruption of Bain Capital while under the tutelage of Unfit Mitt, many of which are chronicled in the Just Another Corrupt Bush Son article below. Scandal surrounds Bain Capital and Mitt Romney.,P> One such controversy is why Mitt is so adamant in proclaiming he left Bain Capital in February, 1999 and not in August, 2001 when he actually did leave Bain. Something very sinister occurred in this time-frame that has Romney afraid. Perhaps the bankruptcy fraud that guaranteed Bain Capital could plunder with impunity a company they manage?

The DOJ refused to investigate any crimes during the Romney years at Bain Capital attesting to the power and influence of the Bush crime cartel. George W Bush #43 appointed a lawyer from Bain Capital's secret law firm as US Attorney to guaranteed Unfit Mitt would not be investigated despite the evidence. Mitt's retroactive retirement seems to be for the purpose to conceal and avoid a DOJ investigation. The Bill Barr confirmation which starts this week may be to guarantee such never happens.

An early retirement however, does not change public docket records; FEC and SEC filings attest to Mitt profiting from corruption, fraud and racketeering prosecutable under RICO statutes as head of Bain Capital. Romney also siphoned the unbelievable sum of $1.5 Billion in aid from the US Treasury as head of the 2002 Winter Olympics. That sum exceeded the total of the last 7 US Olympic games combined. Who knows how much of that money served to enhance his net worth?

No wonder the Salt Lake Winter Games was considered a huge success. Taxpayer money accounted for an average of $625,000 per athlete. When compared to the money spent in the 1984 Olympic games in Los Angeles which spent an average of $11,000 per athlete … an astounding 5,582% increase. And Romney is touted a fiscal conservative? That could even make a demonrat blush with envy. How much actually went to the games?

Pedophilia Changes Everything

There are unfortunately many SES, deep state and establishment politicians involved in the horrendous practice of pedophilia, child sex trafficking and lucerferian practices involving the torture, rape and ritualistic murders of young children. All bets are off on this topic. This makes tyranny and oppression secondary when such vile practices as these are engaged on a regular basis. There will simply be NO DEALS when it comes to this.,

The Bush oligarchy has prevented such prosecutions in the past for for child molestation and child sex trafficking. One such instance involved republican Lawrence King in the Nebraska infamous Boy's Town orphanage and the Franklin Credit Union scandal. King was convicted for embezzlement from the minority owned Franklin Credit Union but there were never any prosecutions thanks to pressure from George Bush #41 despite witnesses that he ran a child prostitution for top GOP officials in Omaha and DC.

These crimes happened in the White House but were suppressed for months. Nebraska's Senate republican Ben Sasse helped cover up sex scandals involving representatives Mark Foley (R-FL) and Jim Kolbe (R-AZ). Mitt Romney is connected in that Ben Sasse worked for Romney's Boston Consulting firm. While Romney is no pedophile he will do whatever he can to protect the Bush oligarchy from investigations for going down that rabbit hole would certainly lead to crimes he is certainly guilty of. Preventing investigations and prosecutions into pedophilia is enabling its practice and that is wholly unacceptable.

The list of corruption and criminal activity is much to extensive for a single article like this. Please read the Just Another Corrupt Bush Son, on the Aim4Truth.org website for that is an extensive expose’ with many links and documentation.

50 posted on 03/29/2023 1:59:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT)
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To: rodguy911; bitt; little jeremiah

thanx for this eye opener on mitturd

they’ve really kept a lid on this.


51 posted on 03/29/2023 5:43:56 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: rodguy911
Exactly two of the most corrupt politicians to ever come down the road Mitt and Dingy Harry should tell you what goes down.

Hey Nevada!!!

Do you remember THESE everywhere?

52 posted on 03/29/2023 5:55:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rodguy911; teppe; wita
He and his mormon gangs engage in every type of smuggling their is from drugs to kids.

Now now...

You'll upset both of FR's Mormon FReepers.

53 posted on 03/29/2023 5:57:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rodguy911; Cletus.D.Yokel

heads up on roegy911’s post connecting dots up thread


54 posted on 03/29/2023 6:11:45 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: Norski; Elsie

The only way to get to Heaven and avoid the fires of Hell, is to trust on the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God, and who is God, who died for your sins and mine, that we may avoid hell and be reconciled to God the Father.

You forgot a couple of important points.

Listen to Norski.

Don’t bother reading the Bible.

That could be called a hell of a way to go through life and I suggest even you recognize my point. To contend the Gospel of Jesus Christ can be lumped into a couple of sentences at the exclusion of everything Jesus preached at his first coming, could be called spiritual blindness.

The entire Christian kingdom as we know it today is fraught with confusion that is manifest in the Reformation. Christians are unable to stand in agreement on virtually any point of doctrine. Catholics and Protestants are as far apart in beliefs as can be other than their general acceptance of Jesus Christ as savior and redeemer.

God is not a God of confusion. Until that general confusion is resolved, the so called Christian Church does not have a leg to stand on.


55 posted on 03/29/2023 6:42:44 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: wita
Christians are unable to stand in agreement on virtually any point of doctrine.

Well played! Or not...

With the Mormons (to be precise, the members of The Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - based in Salt Lake City) intent on being called “Christians” after so many years of eschewing that word, and despite the fact that there are so many fundamental theological differences between Christianity and Mormonism, I often wonder: 

How do members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints feel about calling the members of its various spin-off sects Latter-Day Saints, Christians, or Mormons? Or about those sects calling themselves Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? (There was an earlier campaign by LDS to have journalism style books use the word “Mormon” to refer only to LDS, and not RLDS, FLDS, or other LDS sects).

For a man who bragged about holding things together, Joseph Smith, Jr. doesn’t appear go have done a good job of it during his lifetime. Wycam Clark’s “Pure Church of Christ” spun off in 1831. This trend continued. There were six LDS sects spawned in the 1830s, eight in the 1840s, two in the 1850s, and seven in the 1860s.

Do those responsible for the “Mormons are Christians” campaign consider these denominations to be Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? Surely many of these denominations are much closer to mainstream LDS than LDS is to Christianity. Many stick to Smith’s teachings and old temple endowment ceremonies.

Short Creek Community
Latter Day Church of Christ
Apostolic United Brethren
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness [sic] of Times
Church of the Lamb of God
Church of the New Covenant in Christ
Confederate Nations of Israel
Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
School of the Prophets
Centennial Park
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God
True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
The Church of the Firstborn and the General Assembly of Heaven

Blackmore/Bountiful Community
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ
Order of Enoch
Aaronic Order
Zion’s Order, Inc.
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ (Bullaite)
Community of Christ
Church of Jesus Christ (Toneyite)
Independent RLDS / Restoration Branches
Church of Jesus Christ Restored 1830
Church of Christ (Lion of God Ministry/Clarkite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Zion’s Branch)
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Fettingite) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ at Halley’s Bluff (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Restored) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ “With the Elijah Message” (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Hancock) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Burtite) (Hendrickite)
Church of Israel (Hendrickite)
Church of Christ with the Elijah Message (The Assured Way of the Lord) (Hendrickite)
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Restored Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
Holy Church of Jesus Christ (Strangite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Drewite) (Strangite)
True Church of Jesus Christ Restored (Strangite)
Pentecostal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Whitmerite)

Or these defunct sects:

Pure Church of Christ (Clarkite)
Independent Church (Hotonite)
Church of Christ (Boothite)
Church of Christ (Parrishite)
Alston Church
Church of Christ (Chubbyite)
Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Church of Christ (Pageite)
True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (this one was particularly curious - started by William Law, editor of The Nauvoo Expositor, just one of many sects started in opposition to plural marriage)
The Church of Zion (Godbeite)
United Order Family of Christ
Church of the Potter Christ
Church of the Firstborn (Morrisite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gibsonite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Most High
Church of the Christian Brotherhood
Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion (Rigdonite) Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Primative Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Christ (Aaron Smith)
Church of the Messiah (Adamsite)
Church of Christ (Wrightite)
Church of Christ (Whitmerite)
Church of Christ (Brewsterite)
The Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Congregation of Jehovah’s Presbytery of Zion
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gladdenite)
Independent Latter Day Saints of Nigeria
Independent Latter Day Saints of Ghana
Apostolic Divine Church of Ghana

Are members of those LDS groups “Mormons”? “Latter Day Saints?” “Christians?”

Do the folks in Salt Lake City have a problem with any of those groups, who believe in the restoration of the original church by Joseph Smith, calling themselves Mormons or Saints?

Most of these divisions in the Latter-Day Saint movement occurred over the issue of polygamy or succession of the Prophet. Sects broke off when Joseph Smith was still alive, and when Brigham Young was named prophet, because they didn’t believe in the practice of plural marriage – either publicly, or in some cases when it was practiced in private and denied in public.

Of course, there was the great split between Rocky Mountain Saints and Prairie Saints, when LDS members couldn’t agree on a successor prophet to Smith, Jr., and the church went to Utah, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, and Pennsylvania under Brigham Young, Sidney Rigdon (senior member of the First Presidency), James Strang, Lyman Wight, Alpheus Cutler, William Smith, David Whitmer (a BOM witness), or Joseph Smith III (son of Joseph Smith, Jr.). Almost all of these individuals still has multiple sects in existence that date to an 1844 decision about who should be the next President/Prophet of the church.

The Prairie Saints split into sects over the issue of whether Smith practiced polygamy. Rocky Mountain Saints had many, many spinoff sects after the 1890 Manifesto – groups that still practice plural marriage.

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Thanks to ScoutMaster for all the hard work here!


56 posted on 03/29/2023 7:10:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
Until that general confusion is resolved, the so called Christian Church does not have a leg to stand on.

 
 
"Joseph looked into the hat in which he placed the stone, and received a revelation that some of the brethren should go to Toronto, Canada, and that they would sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon.
 
 Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery went to Toronto on this mission, but they failed entirely to sell the copyright, returning without any money.
 
Joseph was at my father's house when they returned.
 
 I was there also, and am an eye witness to these facts.
 
Jacob Whitmer and John Whitmer were also present when Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery returned from Canada.
 
Well, we were all in great trouble; and we asked Joseph how it was that he had received a revelation from the Lord for some brethren to go to Toronto and sell the copyright, and the brethren had utterly failed in their undertaking.
 
Joseph did not know how it was, so he enquired of the Lord about it, and behold the following revelation came through the stone:   'Some revelations are of God: some revelations are of men: and some revelations are of the devil.'
 
So we see that the revelation to go to Toronto and sell the copyright was not of God, but was of the devil or of the heart of man."
 
--David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, in EMD 5: 198.

 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Whitmer
 
http://latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100023.pdf 

57 posted on 03/29/2023 7:19:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe they just want China to allow their Missionaries to freely proselytize in China without being harrassed.

Not going to happen.

58 posted on 03/29/2023 7:21:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ("EATING... BABIES.... IS NOT.... COOL!" -Rath)
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To: SeekAndFind; All


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59 posted on 03/29/2023 7:22:55 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Elsie

You are well aware of what we believe. Just access the Articles of Faith number 11.
We take no issue with the thousands of off shoots of any religion. Mountain meet
mole hill.


60 posted on 03/30/2023 2:20:35 PM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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