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Ron DeSantis Says Protecting Ukraine Is Not a Key U.S. Interest
The New York Times ^ | By Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman

Posted on 03/13/2023 7:13:26 PM PDT by Kazan

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To: pghoilman
I think going against the GOPE here increases the chances that he will eventually be PDJT’s running mate, for the good of the country!

With Trump as the VP.

What, Trump's ego is too big for that, and he's more likely to run as third party spoiler if he doesn't win the nomination, than be second fiddle to DeSantis for the good of the country, you think?

Of course he is, many of his supporters will tell you the same thing, I just linked some above. Which is another reason he doesn't deserve to be President again. He's too much about himself, and not enough about what's good for the country. That's not vitriol, that's cold hard truth if it's stinging.

81 posted on 03/13/2023 8:53:10 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Florida is where WOKE goes to DIE!)
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To: Kazan

I read from Freepers that DeSantis is the biggest neocon of all time?


82 posted on 03/13/2023 8:55:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: pghoilman

No problem, I’m out, talking to Trump supporters is like talking to a wall (that was never built). Good night.


83 posted on 03/13/2023 8:55:36 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Florida is where WOKE goes to DIE!)
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To: Kazan

At the same time, it’s essentially Biden’s position too.


84 posted on 03/13/2023 8:56:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: unclebankster

“Trump is just defining the little ingrate”

So you are saying that because Trump supported DeSantis in the first election in Florida, DeSantis is not allowed to run because that makes him “disloyal”.


85 posted on 03/13/2023 9:00:15 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Be calm and act.)
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To: Golden Eagle

I wasn’t talking to you.


86 posted on 03/13/2023 9:01:29 PM PDT by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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To: Golden Eagle

I believe if you’re a conservative, you should vote for the Republican nominee in the general election, verses sitting out, or voting for someone else.

***********

Thank you for clarifying that you’ll support the Republican nominee in the 2024 General Election.

I’ll also assume W Bush, McCain, Kasich, Jeb Bush, Romney, Sasse, etc, were bad Republicans in 2016 from your “team perspective.”


87 posted on 03/13/2023 9:10:55 PM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Kazan

Well thanks, NYT. Coincidentally, that’s just what MAGA wants to hear about DeSantis. The NYT has taken quite an interest in DeSantis and has been doing a lot of PR for him lately. The NYT just has ours and DeSantis best interest at heart, I’m sure.


88 posted on 03/13/2023 9:11:14 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: McCarthysGhost

Why would the NYT do this? Seems like trumpeting Ron’s move away from the Deep State just drives Trump and DeSantis supporters together. Just trying to figure out their nefarious motives.


89 posted on 03/13/2023 9:17:42 PM PDT by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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90 posted on 03/13/2023 9:18:32 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Pirate Ragnar

So you are saying that because Trump supported DeSantis in the first election in Florida, DeSantis is not allowed to run because that makes him “disloyal”.

*******””

DeSantis can “bail on Florida” and do whatever he wants.

I won’t be voting for him, not because of his disloyalty to the 45th President, my reasons are different.

I don’t know anything about the guy and am sick of the hype around him.
Furthermore, I don’t like the way DeSantis supporters have been conducting themselves on Free Republic.


91 posted on 03/13/2023 9:20:40 PM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: MotorCityBuck

That was the one issue that had me on the fence. I was worried about the
establishment guys potentially surrounding him but he is keeping them at bay. I agree with DeSantis on the vax and to top it off, he is disciplined unlike Trump.


92 posted on 03/13/2023 9:38:19 PM PDT by DMD13
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To: Kazan

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Bravo Governor.


93 posted on 03/13/2023 9:40:46 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Kazan; All

I think it’s hilarious that anyone thinks voting will fix anything. Hilarious, but also really sad. Nobody seems to realize what’s at stake.


94 posted on 03/13/2023 9:59:40 PM PDT by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: Golden Eagle; adorno; Boogieman; Sunsong; Widget Jr; ought-six; tlozo; Cronos; Monterrosa-24; ...

Regarding Covid, the worst thing that happened was Trump allowing Fauci to distract from the very clear explanation in Dr. Vladimir Zelenko’s 3 part treatment for EARLY Covid. His 3/23/20 cc to the White House and Mark Meadows clearly made the point that zinc was the virus stopper/killer, that HCQ would let the zinc enter infected cells more easily, and that Azithromycin would protect lungs from bacterial infection. In only ten days both Fauci and President Trump were NOT mentioning the essential virus stopper ZINC. On or around May 11, 2020, Fauci announced NIH would do a study of hospitalized Covid patient using HCQ and Azithromycin. NO ZINC, NO EARLY PATIENTS. A design to fail. Then Fauci started promoting Remdesivir, a $3000 treatment (taxpayer subsidized) for hospitalized Covid patients who were already quite ill. The early 3 part treatment only required $20 in medication.

I think Trump finally figured out he had been hoodwinked. After his hospital trip for Covid ended, he was walking from the helicopter to the White House door. He was speaking about the drugs he had used like monoclonal antibodies, Remdesivir and others. Finally he muttered with an angry look on his face and said, “I used ZINC too.” After all, it didn’t really matter that 1/2 million US people died before vaccines were available so long as BIG MEDICINE got its payoffs for Remdesivir, other new drugs, and vaccines (also taxpayer subsidized./s

I am not clear at this point what Trump’s opinion is regarding helping Ukraine resist conquest or theft of the areas of land the best supplied with oil, gas, coal and other important natural assets. I was pleased with Trumps resistance to China and bringing manufacturing home. However I cannot see how any observant politician does not realize Russian victory in Ukraine will probably lead to Chinese attack on Taiwan. Our defense of Taiwan will cost a lot more than we are spending on Ukraine’s defense. I saw a poll that reported only 9% of US people have a favorable opinion of Russia. This reportedly ranks below cancer and cockroaches.


95 posted on 03/13/2023 10:21:03 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: SeekAndFind; Tilted Irish Kilt; null and void; Qiviut; All

I should have pinged you for my comment #95 because of your interest in the Covid issue, although this thread is more about Ukraine and whether it should be supported.


96 posted on 03/13/2023 10:28:21 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: Kazan

That statement is good. But until today, I saw no indications that RDS was opposed to what we are doing in Ukraine.


97 posted on 03/13/2023 10:52:48 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: ocrp1982

Some old Trump supporters are pouring money to DeSantis...who else is there?


98 posted on 03/13/2023 10:52:50 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Trump20162020

No, we have given a 12-digit amount of dollars to Ukraine.

Over $135,000,000,000. That’s 135 Billion.


99 posted on 03/13/2023 10:54:45 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Trump20162020
If you think anyone sane believes Trump won 18 of 19 bellwether counties that had voted with winner in 1980 and Ohio and Florida and lost legitimately, you're nuts.

Trump increased his vote total by 12 million in 2020. And, his record on the economy and everything else is far better than Biden's.

No former President or Presidential candidate has the following Trump does and the ability to pack arenas like Trump. And, certainly not DeSantis, who has the personality of a potted plant.

Do I need to go on?

100 posted on 03/13/2023 11:07:26 PM PDT by Kazan
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